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Oct 09, 2002, 10:47 AM
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Sun King
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Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
Lennon's killer denied parole again
Wednesday, October 9, 2002 Posted: 2:25 PM EDT (1825 GMT)
http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/10/09/ch...ole/index.html
NEW YORK (CNN) -- John Lennon's killer has been denied parole a second time, the New York State Division of Parole announced Wednesday.
The parole board announced its decision on M*** D**** C******'s parole request after meeting Tuesday. C****** can make another request for parole in October 2004, said Tom Grant, a spokesman for the parole division.
Transcripts of the parole board meeting were not immediately available.
C****** was previously denied parole October 3, 2000, by the board. C****** is serving his sentence at Attica state prison in western New York.
C******, 47, is serving 20 years to life after pleading guilty to shooting the former Beatle outside Lennon's Manhattan apartment in December 1980.
Under New York state law, C****** became eligible for parole once he had served 20 years.
In a July 2000 interview with Court TV, C****** said "I think the depression is over. The mental illness is over."
Since the shooting, Lennon's widow, Yoko Ono, has become an advocate against gun violence.
For the October 2000 parole hearing, Ono wrote a letter that reportedly opposed granting parole because of concerns over her safety and the safety of Lennon's two sons.
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Rooftop Sessions - The Finest In Beatles-Related Fiction. October 2002 Issue Now Up!
"In writing, the difference between the right word and almost the right word is like the difference between lightning and lightning bugs." - Mark Twain
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Oct 09, 2002, 10:51 AM
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Sun King
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
And from WINS (this is a local story here, after all):
http://1010wins.com/topstories/Story...190764220_html
John Lennon's Killer Denied Parole Again
Oct 9, 2002 11:05 am US/Eastern
(1010 WINS)-(Albany) -- No parole for John Lennon's killer.
That's the ruling after M*** D**** C******'s second appearance before the New York State Parole Board. The board denied him parole when he made his first appearance two years ago this month.
The 47-year-old C****** is serving a 20-years-to-life sentence for gunning down the former Beatle in Manhattan in December 1980.
While the parole board said C******'s behavior in prison continues to be "very positive," the panel said releasing him would "deprecate" the seriousness of his actions.
Lennon was slain outside his apartment in the Dakota building while returning from a late-night recording session with his wife, Yoko Ono.
At his parole hearing two years ago, C****** said he deserved to be in prison.
He's serving his sentence at Attica state prison in western New York.
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Rooftop Sessions - The Finest In Beatles-Related Fiction. October 2002 Issue Now Up!
"In writing, the difference between the right word and almost the right word is like the difference between lightning and lightning bugs." - Mark Twain
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Oct 09, 2002, 10:54 AM
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Sun King
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
And a later version of the story from the Associated Press:
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/sto...=ENTERTAINMENT
Oct 9, 1:43 PM EDT
Lennon's Killer Denied Parole Again
By MICHAEL GORMLEY
Associated Press Writer
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) -- John Lennon's killer was denied parole for a second time, state officials said Wednesday on what would have been the slain Beatle's birthday.
Releasing M*** D**** C****** after 22 years in prison would "deprecate the seriousness" of the crime, the parole board said in a statement released Wednesday morning. The board said C****** had "acceptable" behavior in prison but that didn't guarantee he wouldn't pose a threat to society.
State Parole Division spokesman Thomas Grant. He said the timing of the notice and what would have been Lennon's 62nd birthday wasn't intentional.
At his first parole hearing two years ago, C****** said he did not deserve to go free. He will be up for parole again in 2004.
C******, 47, is serving 20 years to life for shooting Lennon outside his Manhattan apartment in 1980 as the former Beatle returned from a late-night recording session.
Transcripts of the latest hearing were not immediately available. At his parole hearing two years ago, C****** said: "I believe once you take a person's life, there's no way you can make up for that. Period."
C****** lives in a housing unit separate from the general population for his own safety and works as a clerk in prison, said James Flateau, spokesman for the state Department of Correctional Services. He was involved in three "minor incidents" between 1989 and 1994 for delaying an inmate count and refusing to follow an order, but nothing since 1994, Flateau said.
Lennon's widow, Yoko Ono, did not immediately respond to a request for comment left at her New York office. She had opposed C******'s parole two years ago, saying she was concerned for the safety of herself and her children.
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Rooftop Sessions - The Finest In Beatles-Related Fiction. October 2002 Issue Now Up!
"In writing, the difference between the right word and almost the right word is like the difference between lightning and lightning bugs." - Mark Twain
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Oct 09, 2002, 12:07 PM
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Sun King
Join Date: Dec 09, 2001
Location: Chicago
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
If he wants to live he'd better stay in jail.I'm sure there is alot people who would love to take him out as soon as he stepped out of jail.
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Oct 09, 2002, 01:44 PM
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Bulldog
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
I said it before, I'll say it again - he's safer inside that cage. If one day he ever happens to walk outside, someone might have him killed.
hate to think about it, but isn't it true?
Anna
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Oct 09, 2002, 01:52 PM
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Bulldog
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Oct 09, 2002, 02:05 PM
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Sun King
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By Beatlesgal:
I don't even know why they put him up for parole. It's ridiculous. People that have committed much lesser crimes don't even get put up for parole.
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I'll say this yet again...
He doesn't "get put up for parole." His sentence, under the laws that were in place in New York State in 1980, when he committed his crime, was "twenty years to life." Which means, under that statute, he is ENTITLED to a PAROLE HEARING every two years now that he's served his minimum of 20. This DOES NOT MEAN he will ever get parole. But, as much as we don't like it, that is his right under the law.
In New York State, as in all states of the U.S., the sentence for a crime depends on what is on the books in that state at the time the crime is committed. Since 1980, New York has enacted laws that include the death penalty for crimes such as his, or at the very least, life without parole. But as HE COMMITTED HIS CRIME BEFORE THESE LAWS WERE ON THE BOOKS in the state, his sentence is subject to the laws that were in place in 1980.
It's not a CHOICE to give him a parole hearing, it's the prisoner's RIGHT, whether we like it or not. However, it is fairly obvious that he won't ever get out, "model prisoner" or no...I don't think the NY State Parole Board is that stupid, and frankly, his life would be in danger if they let him out -- I don't think they want even the blood of this creep on their hands!
'Nuf said...
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Rooftop Sessions - The Finest In Beatles-Related Fiction. October 2002 Issue Now Up!
"In writing, the difference between the right word and almost the right word is like the difference between lightning and lightning bugs." - Mark Twain
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Oct 09, 2002, 03:00 PM
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Sun King
Join Date: Jul 02, 2002
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
It's really too bad NY didn't have the death penalty back then. Instead of going straight to hell, he's living it here on earth. I dunno which is worse, but he deserves it! I know I would have felt better if he had been fried for what he did. And I'm usually a peaceful, non-violent person. And yes, I know killing "the jerk" won't bring back John. But he killed John and deserves the harshest punishment possible. *SIGH*.. I guess I can take comfort in knowing that he's hated by all walks of life, and I'm sure "the jerk" knows it.
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"That's Paul's song, Paul's baby. Well Done. Beautiful--and I never wished I'd written it."
1980
Is it any wonder why I love John so much?
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Oct 09, 2002, 04:39 PM
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Bulldog
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Oct 09, 2002, 05:08 PM
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Rocky Raccoon
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
I must say, he's rather lucky to be denied parole...
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I like peaches.
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Oct 09, 2002, 06:03 PM
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Moderator
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
Thanks for posting the articles, Susan.
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Contributing Editor for Rooftop Sessions
Lennon's Line--A science fiction series about John's descendants--Updated 9/2/02
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Oct 09, 2002, 09:04 PM
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Bulldog
Join Date: Sep 28, 2002
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
Yeah,
I mean the guy has to know he's hated. He probably gets mail, and people probably still take the mickey out on him for it. Besides, I feel he deserves to live every miserable day of his life in that hell hole, knowing he is hated. Cuz the day he ever sits foot out of there...it will be over for him, and I think he knows that too.
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"Madness is the first sign of dandruff!"-JL
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Oct 09, 2002, 09:08 PM
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Sun King
Join Date: Jul 02, 2002
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
If I knew everyone (the world, I mean) hated me, I'd probably end it all myself. Of course, I have a conscious.
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John thoughts on "Yesterday":
"That's Paul's song, Paul's baby. Well Done. Beautiful--and I never wished I'd written it."
1980
Is it any wonder why I love John so much?
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Oct 09, 2002, 09:33 PM
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Day Tripper
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
I hope that @sshole rots in there.
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Peace&Luv.
~Kristina
2morrow may rain so.. I'll follow the sun!
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Oct 09, 2002, 10:06 PM
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Administrator
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
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Oct 09, 2002, 11:21 PM
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Sun King
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
thanks for the info HMVNipper!that guy has to be in jail forever and ever
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Oct 09, 2002, 11:51 PM
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Paperback Writer
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
What a great birthday present for John! At least two more years of his family's safety. Thanks for posting, Susan...I had no idea the trial was so soon. Didn't think he'd of gotten out, though.
-lennon4
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Oct 09, 2002, 11:53 PM
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
That doesn't surprise me. I don't think the Jerk of Jerks will ever set foot outside of his state issued home ever again!
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With a love like that, you know you should be glad, yeah, yeah, yeah!
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Oct 10, 2002, 02:05 AM
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Taxman
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
Thanks for the info, Susan.
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"Didn't want to be a star,
Wanted just to play guitar"
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Oct 10, 2002, 06:39 AM
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Bulldog
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Re: Denied, Denied, Denied! (As We Knew It Would Be...)
Sounds like the NY Parole Board knows what to do!
I can't wish anything bad upon him even as much as that was probably the most traumatic night of my life, but I do fear that if he's let out, the violence could continue. I pray that he remains where he is so the chain does not continue.
Thanks for keep us updated!
FT
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"Music always had a transcendental quality inasmuch as it reaches parts of you that you don't expect it to reach. And it can touch you in a way that you can't express. You can think that it hasn't reached you and years later you'll find it coming out." George Harrison
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