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Old Nov 12, 2006, 05:48 AM   #1
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The State of Colorado Voters have spoken. With the ammendment to our Constitution to make marriage between a man and a woman, there has been much debate on the subject. Which has been exhilerating yet exhausting.


What are your views?
Have you ever sat down and given your sexual orientation much thought? Or have you just gone with the flow?
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 05:58 AM   #2
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Men With Women, Men With Men, Women with Women........Its all the same right?

I dont care as long as its love...and love is all that matters right. Why go through this short life without having what you want!!??

As for personal choice, its always female for me!
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 07:22 AM   #3
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Nah, I've never really thought about my sexual orientation. It is what it is and I like guys. I imagine it's probably the same for people who are attracted to their own gender too ~ it just is what it is.

As far as the whole gay marriage thing, I really don't understand what the big deal is. The weird thing to me is that most people I know who are against it wouldn't mind some kind of "legal civil union" between gay people, they just don't want to call it "marriage". To me, it's just terminology, but if it upsets people, whatever, ok. Why not try out the "legal civil union" thing then and show people that the world won't crumble and take it from there? At least that would be a start towards giving everybody the same legal rights. But many people are so hung up on the word "marriage" that they can't even get past it and do that much. I just don't get it.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 07:27 AM   #4
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I agree Rell. Life is too short for all that crap!
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I don't see why it should matter. If somebody loves somebody else they should be able to get married (provided of course, that they are of an age to do so). Simple.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 11:11 AM   #6
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why should age matter...if it is truly love...
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 11:29 AM   #7
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The real strides have been made in some of the big industries, were civil unions have been recognized in terms of benifit sharing and privileges. There's along way to go, of course. Change happens slowly, in the context of social awareness. Change does happen, none-the-less.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 11:35 AM   #8
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Tim, a previous member to this place said that all these tacky reality shows where people fake marriage, get married on a whim or do it as part of a competition along with celebrity couples who have quite obviously gotten married purely because of the publicity it provides them have hurt the sanctity of marriage more than get weddings ever could.

It should be about love, irregardless of gender.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 11:42 AM   #9
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I believe marriage has to be more than love only. It is about commitment, sacrifice, hard work, trust, honor....just because you are 'in love'.....isnt going to be enough.

but that is a bit off topic....

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why should age matter...if it is truly love...
I just meant no pedophilia...If it's between two adults it's perfectly fine.
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It should be about love, irregardless of gender.
Well put, Harb. I agree with you 100%.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 02:35 PM   #12
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My sexual orientation is something that I've never had to give much thought to...I have always known that I liked boys and that was that. Never had any confusion or anything.

One of the nicest weddings I have been to was in September when my friend married his boyfriend.

I don't really understand why some people object to gay people being married...I'm married and I don't feel that it takes anything away from the union that I have as a hetro gal.

All you need is love.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 04:37 PM   #13
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Personally, I love women.

As for the whole gay marriage thing, it seems to have become a cause-celebre for liberals. I find it interesting that liberals who would be opposed to the institution of marriage are quite happy to promote it as long as it's for homosexuals.
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 09:14 AM   #14
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I agree that love is love, irregardless of gender.

Rell, you're right that any civil union is better than nothing, and sometimes change comes gradually like chiliace said, too. It's awesome and I hope someday people can warm up to honoring 'marriage' as well, entirely across the board.

And yeah, I've given my orientation heaps of thought. From I'd say Jr High I knew things were different for me when I'd have a close friend and then I'd begin thinking about living together forever and ever and ever ... and they would have those feelings for guys only, which was then quite disappointing. Then my first boyfriend was very effeminate. He came to pick me up on a first date wearing his grandma's fur cape and parasol! hahaha I loved it... and loved guys who did the slight draggy things like the Stones with eyeliner and what not.

But basically it is all about the goodness and love within someone. And chemistry. Girls are easier to flirt with.

Pinky, I read on the 'Five Things' thread you mentioned being bi, too. Did you always kinda know?
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 10:36 AM   #15
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having discrimination added to a constitution is sick and anti american
I wonder what they want to add next
mabie that you can only marry in your race
It offends me that government(and other people for that matter) thinks it can stick its usually corrupt nose into people love lives .
Love whom ever you want to love
and if marriage really was so special I dont think 50% or more would fail .
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LOVE = LOVE. Period.

I support same sex marriages 100%. Besides, why should only "straight" couples be miserable?

Just kidding, hon'!
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 01:16 PM   #17
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I agree that love is love, irregardless of gender.

Rell, you're right that any civil union is better than nothing, and sometimes change comes gradually like chiliace said, too. It's awesome and I hope someday people can warm up to honoring 'marriage' as well, entirely across the board.

And yeah, I've given my orientation heaps of thought. From I'd say Jr High I knew things were different for me when I'd have a close friend and then I'd begin thinking about living together forever and ever and ever ... and they would have those feelings for guys only, which was then quite disappointing. Then my first boyfriend was very effeminate. He came to pick me up on a first date wearing his grandma's fur cape and parasol! hahaha I loved it... and loved guys who did the slight draggy things like the Stones with eyeliner and what not.

But basically it is all about the goodness and love within someone. And chemistry. Girls are easier to flirt with.

Pinky, I read on the 'Five Things' thread you mentioned being bi, too. Did you always kinda know?

oh my what your mother must have thought

Did I always know...interesting question...in some ways yeah. But I didn't give it much thought...wasn't until I was an adult that I considered ever acting on it.
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having discrimination added to a constitution is sick and anti american
I wonder what they want to add next
mabie that you can only marry in your race
It offends me that government(and other people for that matter) thinks it can stick its usually corrupt nose into people love lives .
Love whom ever you want to love
and if marriage really was so special I dont think 50% or more would fail .
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1. I do not believe adding the definition of marriage to the State Constitution is discriminatory. Keeping in mind I view the definition of marriage a religious union.

2. How is it different for the government to "stick its usually corrupt nose into peoples love lives" differernt from the sticking thier noses in partaking in legal activities, such as smoking, or recreational shooting/hunting or better yet...telling how an individual can/should run thier business?

3. I believe and always will believe marriage is VERY SPECIAL....and the sad statistic of failed marriages is appalling...but I do not think it has anything to do with people being socially forced to marry the opposite gender.
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I support same sex marriages 100%. Besides, why should only "straight" couples be miserable?

Just kidding, hon'!
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3. I believe and always will believe marriage is VERY SPECIAL....and the sad statistic of failed marriages is appalling...but I do not think it has anything to do with people being socially forced to marry the opposite gender.
First off, to answer the original question... naw. I haven't had to think about it! I liked boys while the other girls still thought they had "cooties"! HA! I knew what I wanted!

I also haven't had any issues with people who have varied preferences. I grew up with a sister who would only eat chocolate ice cream & a brother who would only eat strawberry. You couldn't force them to love something they weren't interested in. I think sexual orientation is the same. People like what people like.

As for same sex marriages... I feel that a marriage is a soul union. Souls aren't male or female. So why can't soul unite? I think it should be allowed.

& Pinky's right... it's sad how many marriages fail. I believe it's because people are not always educated on what a marriage is about, what it's purpose is, & what you need to do to nurture it. Confusion over sexual orientation isn't a leading cause to failed marriages.
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