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Old Aug 26, 2006, 11:10 PM   #1
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Beatles Reunion Was In Progress

December 8, 2005

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The Beatles were planning their reunion when John Lennon was murdered, according to the record producer working with the late rocker on the night he was shot.

Jack Douglas, who produced Lennon's final album Double Fantasy, has revealed that Lennon and Paul McCartney were talking about working together on a Ringo Starr solo album.


Douglas says, "He and Paul planned to play on a Ringo album and that's how they were planning to do it, and George (Harrison) had not come aboard yet.

"George was already in a lot of hot water with John because of George releasing his autobiography and not really mentioning much of John in it. But I think they assumed that George would come along as soon as the thing got going."

And Douglas also claims Lennon's wife Yoko Ono actively blocked a Beatles reunion. He adds, "Let's just put it this way - Yoko discouraged Paul coming around.

"There was a writing session somewhere in the Dakota (building where Lennon and Ono lived) and there was one cancelled which John did not know about. He was told that Paul did not show. Paul was told that John was too busy to be working with him that day."
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Old Aug 27, 2006, 02:00 AM   #2
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I believe George was not the one to stay away because of something which had upset John.

I know that George has spoken about this in interviews, I should look it up sometime, but I can not see George staying away from a Ringo recording because of this.
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Old Aug 27, 2006, 06:50 AM   #3
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Well,George really was on the outs with John when John passed away, from what I understand.

And surprise, surprise about all the Paul/John/Yoko stuff. And people say that Paul's a manipulator...sheesh.
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Old Aug 27, 2006, 07:54 AM   #4
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I wonder about that whole interview being a lot of BS.

Personally, I always thought that if a few more years had passed,
they would have gotten together for a single benefit performance,
like at the original Live Aid. And I think that if John was for it, then
George would have been, too.
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I agree, it all sounds like a fantasy story to me.
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I wonder about that whole interview being a lot of BS.

Personally, I always thought that if a few more years had passed,
they would have gotten together for a single benefit performance,
like at the original Live Aid. And I think that if John was for it, then
George would have been, too.

Well, I think that Jack Douglas has some animus against Yoko Ono. Didn't he sue her for back royalties or something back in the 80's?

People have been slagging Yoko from the get-go. Personally, I won't believe it until I get confirmation from Paul on this one.
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Old Aug 27, 2006, 02:46 PM   #7
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And I think by now it woud have come up from Paul.
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I remember reading somewhere that John had agreed to take place at the Concert for Bangladesh, but that Yoko wouldn't let him because George had stipulated that Yoko wouldn't get to be on stage.
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I remember reading somewhere that John had agreed to take place at the Concert for Bangladesh, but that Yoko wouldn't let him because George had stipulated that Yoko wouldn't get to be on stage.
Wouldn't "let" him? I remember that story a bit differently...he was terribly torn over the whole thing as I recall the story--not a case that Yoko wouldn't "let" him...
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Wouldn't "let" him? I remember that story a bit differently...he was terribly torn over the whole thing as I recall the story--not a case that Yoko wouldn't "let" him...
Didn't it have something to do with their horoscopes or something? And John kept putting off making a decision whether to play it or not?
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From what I know, George wanted John to join on stage but did not want Yoko there, you may remember that at the time George had played with John a lot, but he often later also mentioned that he was 'not pleased' with the 'shouting' she did in her songs from that time.

So George did not want her on stage and John finally agreed to that, but coming back to the hotel John got in to a big fight with Yoko about this, packed his bags and flew back to London.
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From what I know, George wanted John to join on stage but did not want Yoko there, you may remember that at the time George had played with John a lot, but he often later also mentioned that he was 'not pleased' with the 'shouting' she did in her songs from that time.

So George did not want her on stage and John finally agreed to that, but coming back to the hotel John got in to a big fight with Yoko about this, packed his bags and flew back to London.
That's more like it. Yoko didn't have any idea where the hell he went when he took off and spent all night worried about him. Allen Klein called Yoko the next day, said John had been calling him all night in an emotional state, and that she needed to go to London, to fetch him back, I suppose. She eventually did and found him crouched, distraught, in one of those bagism bags.

My take on the whole episode is that John was terribly torn about the whole situation and bolted. It was a rotten position for both George and Yoko to have put him in, and his reacton was less than stellar. Nobody behaved particularly honorably in that situation, but all-too-human.
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So Yoko wouldn't let him.
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That's more like it. Yoko didn't have any idea where the hell he went when he took off and spent all night worried about him. Allen Klein called Yoko the next day, said John had been calling him all night in an emotional state, and that she needed to go to London, to fetch him back, I suppose. She eventually did and found him crouched, distraught, in one of those bagism bags.

My take on the whole episode is that John was terribly torn about the whole situation and bolted. It was a rotten position for both George and Yoko to have put him in, and his reacton was less than stellar. Nobody behaved particularly honorably in that situation, but all-too-human.
Sounds similar to the story that Cynthia tells in "John" when Cyn's mom and Mimi first met and got into argument at Mendips. John was so distraught at this catastrophe that he bolted out the door and ran down Menlove.
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Sounds like some of you guys are getting the Bangledesh story confused with the charity concert in 1979 for Kampuchea where the 4 Beatles were going to play. But then John backed out either because "Yoko wouldnt' let him" or because he hadn't played live in so long (this WAS during the house husband time) and so the Beatles didn't perform. Paul was so distraught that Wings ended up performing their last live concert that night for the charity concert.

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Sounds like some of you guys are getting the Bangledesh story confused with the charity concert in 1979 for Kampuchea where the 4 Beatles were going to play. But then John backed out either because "Yoko wouldnt' let him" or because he hadn't played live in so long (this WAS during the house husband time) and so the Beatles didn't perform. Paul was so distraught that Wings ended up performing their last live concert that night for the charity concert.

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Interesting. I didn't know about that.

I might be unorthodox here, but I don't know if a public Beatles reunion would have been such a great thing. The expectations would have been so enormous...people would have expected nothing less than the Second Coming and how could they possibly have lived up to that? As it was, I was not particularly impressed by the efforts of the "Threetles" on John's demos during the Anthology. I mean, it was touching to hear Paul's voice chime in with John's once again during the middle eight and all that, but, otherwise...meh.

Their story as it stands has an aesthetic and dramatic symmetry and completeness. You couldn't make this stuff up.
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I think Jack Douglas may/ might have having to many mushrooms. Anything he says is to be taken with a real grain of salt. All John did as part of an apple agreement was ok the anthology project that started out with the title "The long and winding road".
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...nothing is real, and nothing to get hung about...

All throughout the Stinky Seventies I heard and read from one Beatle or another that they did not want a reunion and the world could cross that wish off its collective list. I have a lot of trouble believing this article. Perhaps it's just baloney and nothing (in it) is real....
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I dont know. I've heard so much about what was gonna happen & what the Beatles were planning to do I'm not sure what to believe
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