Next Set Of Reissues

Originally Posted by ringo_rama

McCartney II is pure awesomeness from start to finish. And Wild Life is better than Speed of Sound. Well, maybe. I wouldn't go to war over that one, but "Some People Never Know" is better than anything on SoS or V&M for that matter.

If you really wanna talk bad Macca albums, let's just wait for the Press to Play reissue. Although even that should include the CD debut of the single mix of "Pretty Little Head," which alone will justify shelling out for the box set.

In all honesty, I'm in agreement with you about M2. But it took 30 yrs to come to that conclusion. I think that album is an amazing glimpse into the mind of a genius that was trying to distance himself from Yesterday. But it's a pretty hated album amongst the minions.

Oh, I used to despise it too. Thought it was trash other than the beautiful "One of These Days." I wondered what the hell happened to the song "Coming Up" that was such an awesome rocker in the live version I heard on Wingspan, and what drugs Paul was using when he came up with "Temporary Secretary" and "Bogey Music."

But a few years before the reissue came out, and I started getting into more unconventional music like Talking Heads, I became a full-on convert. I like both versions of "Coming Up" now, but I find the studio version a lot more exciting. And whatever drugs he was on for "Temporary Secretary" and "Bogey Music," well hook me up Sir Paulie because I want to ride whatever train led you to such amazing works of art. Ok, so in fairness, I can objectively admit that "Bogey Music" is hardly a shining example as far as composition goes, but it's fun and I enjoy listening to it. It's a great headphones song. "Temporary Secretary" might be in my top 10 post-Beatles songs from all four members. And I haven't even covered the awesome groove of the b-side "Check My Machine." I can't help but dance any time I hear it. My only two laments--the full-length version leaves out the "Hi George, morning Terry" part, and at almost nine minutes, it's still not long enough.

And after insulting it earlier tonight, I decided to listen to Press to Play again. There are some weak songs ("However Absurd" is awful) but it actually isn't that bad overall. I sort of feel like it's the last time Paul made a conscious effort to produce hits and be contemporary, and thus it feels less genuine than his later releases, particularly from Flaming Pie onward. But there's some good stuff here. "Write Away" is one of those songs that I never really feel compelled to listen to but I always think is great when I hear it. "Press" is catchy; "Talk More Talk" and "Pretty Little Head" are excellent time capsules of mid-80s production and just have an awesome sound to them; and "Only Love Remains" is another in the long line of great ballads that Paul could write in his sleep. I've always compared it to a more successful version of "Warm and Beautiful."

So to bring it back on topic, I think Speed of Sound has the most potentially exciting bonus disc of any of the reissues so far. The album itself is pretty slight to me, but that Bonham version of "Beware My Love" has me salivating. Venus and Mars is an album that's grown on me but I still feel like it's like a 60/40 split of really good songs and filler. But keep in mind, that's Paul McCartney filler, which is usually A-list material for other acts.

I too have to admit that it took me a few decades to warm up to some of his later recordings, but ya "One Of These Days", is a classic that I used to play over and over on my turntable. But the rest of the LP never did anything for me, and I doubt it ever will.

Same with the Wild Life LP, other than the title track.

Come on, Bongo! Dig that bogey beat!

Originally Posted by ringo_rama

After insulting it earlier tonight, I decided to listen to Press to Play again. There are some weak songs ("However Absurd" is awful) but it actually isn't that bad overall. I sort of feel like it's the last time Paul made a conscious effort to produce hits and be contemporary, and thus it feels less genuine than his later releases, particularly from Flaming Pie onward. But there's some good stuff here. "Write Away" is one of those songs that I never really feel compelled to listen to but I always think is great when I hear it. "Press" is catchy; "Talk More Talk" and "Pretty Little Head" are excellent time capsules of mid-80s production and just have an awesome sound to them; and "Only Love Remains" is another in the long line of great ballads that Paul could write in his sleep. I've always compared it to a more successful version of "Warm and Beautiful."

Maybe not one of his better LP's, but still a good number of good tracks... in addition to the ones you mentionned...

''Angry'', very good and fun to listen to rocker

''Footprints'', very lovely, sad (in the good sense) lyrics and arrangement, sortt of a ''And I love her'' mark 2

''It's not true'' (the original B side/single version, with the soft intro)

''Yvonne'' (though never officially released)

''Stranglehold'', took me some years, but I eventually warmed-up to that one !

Originally Posted by johnnymain

According to this post from 2011, the list of reissues and forthcoming new albums containing previously unreleased outakes is as follows:

http://wogew.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/...-schedule.html

Baring in mind when it was written, it makes interesting reading.

... errr... at the rate they've been releasing these so far, then plan (or planned) to put out 33 more (!), in just the next two-and-a-half years ???

coming 9-23-2014


http://www.thefest.com/store/index.p...x&cPath=283_82

Originally Posted by ABCKO

... errr... at the rate they've been releasing these so far, then plan (or planned) to put out 33 more (!), in just the next two-and-a-half years ???

Yeah, the slow release rate is annoying especially if your favourite album is someway down that (unofficial) list.

Originally Posted by johnnymain

Yeah, the slow release rate is annoying especially if your favourite album is someway down that (unofficial) list.

... and these re-issues aren't that generous, bonus-track-wise...

I mean, we keep reading that Paul had this incredible non-released vs. released recordings ratio, not to mention demos, alternate versions of released songs, yet so few are included on these.

And here's a though I had when they first started these: couldn't Paul record one, just ONE, new version of one of the songs on a given re-release, each time out ?

DOCTOR: Yes, it did, didn't it. Adric, wouldn't it be nice to be right about everything ?

Originally Posted by ABCKO

And here's a though I had when they first started these: couldn't Paul record one, just ONE, new version of one of the songs on a given re-release, each time out ?

I dunno if I want to hear 72-year-old Paul tackling "Call Me Back Again." The "Baby's Request" remake on KOTB wasn't bad but the fact is, his voice was at its peak during the Wings era, and any modern studio version of those songs will fall flat in comparison.

Originally Posted by ringo_rama

I dunno if I want to hear 72-year-old Paul tackling "Call Me Back Again." The "Baby's Request" remake on KOTB wasn't bad but the fact is, his voice was at its peak during the Wings era, and any modern studio version of those songs will fall flat in comparison.

... well... he still does a lot of those ''live'', and not to baddly at that it seems, which is probably much more ''trying'' than doing it in a studio.

Besides, he could choose the said song, per album, according to what he feels like (and is able of) doing.

Paul McCartney Archive Collection

Production issues delay release of Venus and Mars and At The Speed Of Sound
New UK Release Date: 3rd November / New US Release Date: 4th November

Due to production issues the release of the latest albums in the GRAMMY Award winning Paul McCartney Archive Collection will be delayed. The classic Wings albums Venus and Mars and At The Speed Of Sound will now be released on November 3rd in the UK and November 4th in the US and not the previously announced September dates.

Since launching the Paul McCartney Archive Collection in 2010 Paul has received two GRAMMY Awards for the releases. In 2012 he picked up 'Best Historical Album' for Band on the Run and this year Wings over America picked up an award ('Best Boxed or Special Edition Package') on the same night that Paul set a personal best by picking up five awards in just one night. In 2013 RAM was nominated for 'Best Historical Album'.

In keeping with the Archive Collection tradition all aspects of this project have been over seen by Paul McCartney and the packages, including bonus and previously unreleased material, are a must have for all fans.

... note that they didn't specify November... of which year...

I'm guessing this delay has to do w the mono vinyl collection being released.

Originally Posted by ABCKO

... and these re-issues aren't that generous, bonus-track-wise...

I mean, we keep reading that Paul had this incredible non-released vs. released recordings ratio, not to mention demos, alternate versions of released songs, yet so few are included on these.

And here's a though I had when they first started these: couldn't Paul record one, just ONE, new version of one of the songs on a given re-release, each time out ?

DOCTOR: Yes, it did, didn't it. Adric, wouldn't it be nice to be right about everything ?

I understand what you're saying but near the bottom of the (unofficial) list are these specific titles:

The Studio Outtakes (NEW TITLE) 1970 / 1989 4 cds
The Studio Outtakes (NEW TITLE) 1990 / 2014 4 cds

The Rude Studio Recordings (NEW TITLE) 1970 / 1997 4 cds

The Demos (NEW TITLE) 1960 1979 4 cds
The Demos (NEW TITLE) 1980 2016 4 cds

So hopefully these 20 CDs will actually be released and make up for the lack of bonus tracks on the other reissues.

Originally Posted by Colonel Angus

I'm guessing this delay has to do w the mono vinyl collection being released.

And less than a week to go for those releases!

Originally Posted by johnnymain

I understand what you're saying but near the bottom of the (unofficial) list are these specific titles:



So hopefully these 20 CDs will actually be released and make up for the lack of bonus tracks on the other reissues.

... that actually makes it worst somehow.

... buy 18, and the 19th and 20th will make it pay off.

And, as you noted, those are at the bottom of the list: i.e. among the last ones released (heck, one of them is ''1980-2016 !), if they ever are at all

That list that some dude provided with no proof whatsoever has already been proven inaccurate in a number of ways. I wouldn't put too much stock into 20 discs of rarities being the capper to the project.

And with all due respect to Linda, if Wide Prairie is up next, then they're not thinking. Besides, there's a New reissue coming out this year.

Could someone please post the recording dates for the previously un-released tracks on the Venus & Speed two re-releases ?

The "non deluxe" edition doesn't list them...

Glad to see that the next two scheduled ones will be "Tug of war" and "Pipes of peace", if nothing else, they should include a good handful of tracks that were officially released, as B sides to some of those albums' singles

- "Ode to a koala bear"
- "Rainclouds"
- "Ebony and Ivory" (Paul's "solo"/vocal version)
- "(Give me you're number) I'll give you a ring"

I got all of those on vinyl when they originally came out (and still have them)... but I've long been hoping for their being released on CD !

May also include (the very good !) Paul/Carl Perkins song "My old friend", recorded during the TOF sessions... it's long been available of Perkin's posthumous CD, but it would be nice to have it on the TOW re-release, to go with the album and other above mentionned tracks