I know a lot of "beatle haters" out there...

Originally Posted by beatlebangs1964

It's best just to ignore them. Maybe these Beatle busters will get tired and go away.

We can only hope. People who have no clue what they're talking about annoy me.

What gets me is that the word Hate is such a strong word! Everyone has their own right to either like The Beatles, or to not like The Beatles if they have things to support their opinions, but to just simply Hate them, come on now? That goes with everything in general, however there is one thing that I do hate, and that's just simply Hate.

Another thing like pepperland67 said, these sites don't have their facts straight, and what Rurouni_Idoru said about how people generaly diss like them for no apparent reason, other than their music is from the past, and yet they've never taken up the time to really listen to them. People who are like that are being very narrow minded if you ask me, and shouldn't judge something until they take the time to really sit down and listen to them, or else don't listen to them at all, and neither diss like them, or like them.

Originally Posted by Marmalade Skies

I second. I get a lot of that crap at school about the Beatles. But,I think every musian or rapper or whatever you want to call them, was in infulenced by someone who was influenced by the Beatles, you know?

I agree with the whole t-shirt thing too. Actually, this one girl has this Beatles shirt. She doesn't even know who they are.Honestly, she bought it because it was " vintage ". Same thing with all the AC/DC shirts.

I know!!!!!!1 it drives me crazy its the style to like rock bands now and wear rock band t-shirts
so they pretend to like it because they think it's cool. theres the idiots at my school they have there Beatles, AC/DC, Led zeplin, Hendrix t-shirts ect..
but rap is pouring out of there headphones.At lunch hour somtimes the AV guys bring out speakers and they all choose rap!!!!!!!! and $hitty bands like simple plan and good charlette. they waer those rock n roll t shirts all cause of a god dawm style its true marmalade its really sad.

the only rap i like is The black eyed peas and i only know one of there songs 'lets get it started" and Eminem but a barley listen to them i gave away my emenem cd at summer camp.
the other 97% of rap is CRAP

I wan't a beatles shirt like crazy to show off my Beatles love, but some kid goes around wearing one to be "cool".... Drives me crazy!

Originally Posted by Beatle_soul

I know!!!!!!1 it drives me crazy its the style to like rock bands now and wear rock band t-shirts
so they pretend to like it because they think it's cool. theres the idiots at my school they have there Beatles, AC/DC, Led zeplin, Hendrix t-shirts ect..
but rap is pouring out of there headphones.At lunch hour somtimes the AV guys bring out speakers and they all choose rap!!!!!!!! and $hitty bands like simple plan and good charlette. they waer those rock n roll t shirts all cause of a god dawm style its true marmalade its really sad.

the only rap i like is The black eyed peas and i only know one of there songs 'lets get it started" and Eminem but a barley listen to them i gave away my emenem cd at summer camp.
the other 97% of rap is CRAP

I agree with everything you just said. I understand buying the glamourized rock shirts (I got a rhinestone studded Beatles tee today, actually) but there's no reason to wear the shirt if you don't listen to the band. There were a lot of Rolling Stones shirts on the rack I was shopping at today, and they were quite nifty, but I don't know the Stones all that well, so I didn't get one. (Although I must say, the Debbie Harry shirts were ridiculously tempting.)

The rap thing is my main roadblock too, because I don't care enough about any rappers to find out how the Beatles influenced them so I can trump insulting critics. I don't like rap now for what it is, but I'm in LOVE with what it's supposed to be. The idea of poetry with just enough rhythm to make someone want to dance.... They tell me that they should have the right to hate my music because I hate theirs, but I DON'T. I hate what it's become. Stupid modern factory-made trends, most of them are crimes against what music used to be. (Don't even get me started on Jesse McCartney, and how my heart does flips when I glimpse a headline with his name in it, only to realize it's the wrong McCartney and he can't sing anyway....)

Originally Posted by Zimmerman The Gnome

Hate them if you want - Love them if you want. Simple!

There is no rational reason to hate The Beatles! It's just incomprehensible when John and Paul are considered my most rock and music critics, other well known music artists,and millions of people to be brilliant song writers and great singers! And all that they contributed to music and how much great quality music they made of all different styles in just 7 years! Even brilliant classical composer Leonard Bernstein said John and Paul were the two most brilliant song writers of the 20th century. Brian Wilson and Elton John said this too on US TV shows,Brian on a Beatles Nightline Tribute show in 1995,and Elton John on CBS moring news show in 1991.There are at leatt 6 music professors who are teaching courses on The Beatles at good universities.One of them is award winning music professor and classical composer Dr.Glen Gass at Indiania University.


He's also been teaching a course on rock music since 1982. Dr.Gary Kendal's Beatles course at North Western University is the most requested at the university too. Even Ozzy Osbourne says not loving The Beatles is like saying you don't love oxogen! He also says The Beatles were the greatest band to ever walk this earth. I have also found 42 former Beatles haters on web sites and message boards who are now big Beatles fans. They say they heard a lot of garbage said about them and now they say how stupid they were for hating them and they had a lot of innacurate ignorant misperceptions about them and hadn't even heard most of their music. Others said they didn't start to like and appreciate them until they were in their 30's.


I also found over 11 pages on the google search engine of people saying they hate The Rolling Stones too! There is an online interview with musician Frank Marino of the hard rock group Mahagony Rush and he says he can't stand The Rolling Stones and calls them the worst hoax ever! He says they have been conning people for years and that a lot of people are suckers for The Rolling Stones! In several recent online interviews,Frank says he likes and listens to The Beatles though! I just read on a guy's blog that The Beatles are the # 1 selling artists in Amazon.com's Hall of Fame. U2 is # 2 and The Rolling Stones are # 10. The guy said it's plausible that The Beatles are # 1 because they are the greatest rock band of all time. U2 and The Stones are still together but The Beatles broke up in 1970,it just shows how great and timeless their music is!

Originally Posted by ringo_rama

Who cares if some people don't like them? If someone makes a personal attack at one of them, then I'll defend them, but people have a right to their opinion.

As for getting crap at school for liking the Beatles, I'm just the opposite. Obviously, most of the kids aren't fans, but they all know I am, and a lot of people come up to me and show me magazine articles they saw, even just crossword puzzle clues relating to the Beatles. One girl actually bought me a Beatles interview CD just because she saw it in a store for $5. So while I'm not popular by any means, I am respected as a Beatles authority of sorts.

I care a lot actually if people hate them it's really depressing and sad! I don't think they have a "right" to hate such talented people! Please see my recent post about this on Abbyrd's Beatles site. I might write it all here again but it's so long I just don't want to write it all over again right now.

To "hate" is the Beatles is ignorance. The Beatles pioneered the path for current popular music.

I actually think I have a Beatles music addiction. If I go a few days without listening to them, I become depressed....I am dead serious. I could never understand how anyone could NOT like the Beatles. I just don't get it. If you want to criticize them maybe if you disagree with their political views or things they did in their free time (drugs, etc.) that's one thing, but how can you not like their tunes??

Originally Posted by GeorgieGirl

To "hate" is the Beatles is ignorance. The Beatles pioneered the path for current popular music.

Yes,you are absolutely right it's very ignorant,but it's not mainly for the reason you said. I mean can you seriously listen to most of their beautiful quality music and comprehend how *anyone* could hate it? I understand not liking a few songs,because out of 100 amazing songs some are better than others,but they did so much great quality music of so many different styles in just a 7 year recording career! John and Paul were also very innovative,creative and brilliant in the recording studio!


And as I said,look at all of these 42 former Beatles haters who are now big fans I found on message boards by typing in the words in the google searge engine,"I used to hate The Beatles". If any of you go to music reviewer John Mcferrin's music review site,and read his review of The Beatles,you will see the interesting things he says about how he used to hate them because he heard a lot of garbage said about them and finally listened to their albums and loves them now! He says their music is truly awesome and he now marvels at how his head was stuck in his butt for so long he now loves all of their music!



He even says She Loves You is a great record,and says he had heard all of this garbage said about their early music that it was dated pop crap! He was born in 1980 by the way. He also says that one of the tragedies of this generation is that in many circles not only is it not "hip" to enjoy The Beatles ,but in many ways their name has become something of a dirty word. Dated pop crap and all sorts of yeah, yeah,yeah nonsense,he says you know the drill. He then says he was fooled to the extreme,and because of this the vvery idea of owning any of their music was nausea-inducing to the extreme.Now he says A Hard Day's Night is one of his favorite albums!


I called music professor Dr.Glen Gass in March and left a message on his answering machine about my concerns with all of the total ignorant negative inaccurate myths and misperceptions I am finding posted by mostly young people on a surprising number of mesage boards. One of the most ignorant things being said is that they were a manufactured pop boy band like The Back Street Boys,NSYNC etc!


Of course anyone who knows their history of playing in strip clubs for 8 hours a night for two years in Hamburg Germany,taking speed pills just to stay awake,wearing black tight leather pants and jackets,smoking,cursing,hitting each other on stage and going to bed with many young women groupies,and playing in the Cavern for a couple of years,before Brian Epstein created the fake cleaned up image,knows this is totally ridiculous and false! Dr.Gass left a message on my answering machine and said that I don't have to worry,the Beatles popularity isn't going anywhere. He said he knbows 20 year olds who really love them,because they really love their music. He said there was a backlash with the popularity of their 1 CD but they are like any great thing,like Beethoven that will be forever!

Originally Posted by ScottieDawg

I actually think I have a Beatles music addiction. If I go a few days without listening to them, I become depressed....I am dead serious. I could never understand how anyone could NOT like the Beatles. I just don't get it. If you want to criticize them maybe if you disagree with their political views or things they did in their free time (drugs, etc.) that's one thing, but how can you not like their tunes??

Scott,I love you you are *SOOOO* right! I have always said you have to be deaf and dumb not hear how great they are! I have always listened to them everyday of my life since I was 9 years old and their music is so great it's like a drug and I can never hear enough and their music is the only music that is so great it makes me feel high when I hear it like a drug! I have heard all kinds of music since I was little too! But the good news is, as I said in my first post,I recently read on some guys blog that The Beatles are the # 1 selling artists in The Amazon.com Hall of Fame and he said it's plausible because The Beatles are the greatest rock group of all time! U2 are # 2 and The Rolling Stones are # 10 but these groups are still together The Beatles broke up as we know in 1970! That just goes to show their music is great timeless music that will always endure!


And their Anthology CD's went to # 1 25 years after they broke up and became # 1 in many countries and I heard a radio DJ say that 40 % were teenagers buying them! Same thing with their 1 CD which became the # 1 album in the US any many other countries as soon as it came out 31 years after they broke up! 30% were teenagers buying that too! They also recently got a diamond award from the Recording Industry of America for selling the most albums! I do find many teenage and college age Beatles fans posting on music review sites,and fan sites like this one too!


Also, on Blogcritcs.org this month there is a great review of The White album by Brian McKay who is a college student and he says he went from liking The Beatles to going through a foolish phase of rejecting them. But he was recently with some friends most of who are Berkely students and musicians and they played The White Album and he was blown away by it and is fan again! Evryone else on Blogcritics.org gave them good reviews too so did I! Scott you are also so right about not liking some of the things they did in their personal lives,I don't like the fact that they, like every other rock group had sex with tons of young women groupies!

I mean can you seriously listen to most of their beautiful quality music and comprehend how *anyone* could hate it?

All of what you say still falls under ignorance. If someone hasn't listened to the music, but have an opinion of it, that's ignorance.

Ignorance means unknowning, It can also mean rude. So, perhaps people who say they hate the Beatles just want to be rude, or crude or who knows.

They might very well not like the music. Maybe it doesn't strike the cord in them that it does in us. Maybe the dad that beat them everday listened to the Beatles. Who knows what makes people have the opinions they have? I can't take country, and really can't take the goofy cowboy hats they wear, but country is extremely popular.

I have listened to it, so it's not ignorance, it's just taste. It's not my cup of tea. I don't hate it, because hate is pretty strong...

Most likely the posters who claim they hate the Beatles perhaps just hate other things that are somehow tied into Beatle music... Like an entire generation.

I took a lot of crap after Paul's performance at the Super Bowl in January. "It was SO BORING!" was something I heard a lot. I just told them it wasn't my fault they didn't have good taste in music! Though, a few did recognize Live and Let Die.....but thought Paul had stolen it from Guns n Roses.

Puhhhleeezzzeeee.

Originally Posted by Beatle_soul

I know!!!!!!1 it drives me crazy its the style to like rock bands now and wear rock band t-shirts
so they pretend to like it because they think it's cool. theres the idiots at my school they have there Beatles, AC/DC, Led zeplin, Hendrix t-shirts ect..
but rap is pouring out of there headphones.At lunch hour somtimes the AV guys bring out speakers and they all choose rap!!!!!!!! and $hitty bands like simple plan and good charlette. they waer those rock n roll t shirts all cause of a god dawm style its true marmalade its really sad.

the only rap i like is The black eyed peas and i only know one of there songs 'lets get it started" and Eminem but a barley listen to them i gave away my emenem cd at summer camp.
the other 97% of rap is CRAP

Ahhh! You know what I am ABSOLUTELY SICK of?

All these little gangsters running around wearing Bob Marley shirts!!! Do these people even know who Bob Marley WAS?!

Originally Posted by GeorgieGirl

All of what you say still falls under ignorance. If someone hasn't listened to the music, but have an opinion of it, that's ignorance.

Ignorance means unknowning, It can also mean rude. So, perhaps people who say they hate the Beatles just want to be rude, or crude or who knows.

They might very well not like the music. Maybe it doesn't strike the cord in them that it does in us. Maybe the dad that beat them everday listened to the Beatles. Who knows what makes people have the opinions they have? I can't take country, and really can't take the goofy cowboy hats they wear, but country is extremely popular.

I have listened to it, so it's not ignorance, it's just taste. It's not my cup of tea. I don't hate it, because hate is pretty strong...

Most likely the posters who claim they hate the Beatles perhaps just hate other things that are somehow tied into Beatle music... Like an entire generation.

Yes,but country music has never been called brilliant by people like brilliant classical composer and conducter Leonard Bernstein,and most rock and music critics, and I don't know of any music professors at good universities teaching country music as brilliant! You can't compair them even if I understand the point you mean. Also,The Beatles *are* still that popular as I mentioned in my posts above and to most people's ears,most of their music is great! They wouldn't still be this popular and critically acclaimed 35 years after they broke up if this was not the case.


Some of these former Beatles haters who are now big fans,said they hadn't heard most of their music, and were told a lot of inaccurate garbage about them,other guys said they didn't start to like and appreciate their music until they were in their 30's. I'm not a Beach Boys fan, I like some of their songs a little but nothing I've heard is great. I've never been into the beach surfing sounding music. But I would never be so ignorant to say I hate The Beach Boys and they suck! I never liked classical music but I believe Beethoven was a brilliant composer since it's been said by so many for so long. And I would never be so ignorant to say Beethoven sucks! But it's really hard to comprehend how anyone wouldn't like at least some Beatles music,when as I said they made such great quality music which is generally recognized as such,and so many different styles of music in just 7 years.


Also,the fact that that they are loved by so many music artists from such different music styles,everyone to classical composer Leonard Bernstein,to Elton John,Brian Wilson,Phil Collins,The Rolling Stones,to Ozzy Osbourne and motown artists,really says a lot! They are also the most covered music artists ever,everyone from heavy metal,to classical,to motown has recorded their music. Rick Wakeman of the group Yes put out a Beatles tribute album in 1998.

Yes,but country music has never been called brilliant by people like brilliant classical composer and conducter Leonard Bernstein,and most rock and music critics, and I don't know of any music professors at good universities teaching country music as brilliant! You can't compair them even if I understand the point you mean.

Well if you understand my point...

The rest of your post basically reverts to ignorance on the part of Beatle haters. Which has many meanings congruous to people who just flat out hate the Beatles.

You're preaching to the choir with me. I have been a Beatle's fan since I saw them on Ed Sullivan. I waited like a mad-dog for every album to be released.

I recognize their brilliance and the contribution they've made to music...even society, so not sure if your post is directed to me or just general statements.

I'm simply saying that who knows what makes people hate the Beatles, or hate anything. And regarding my coment about country, I was trying to show an simile in taste, not in talents.

I think for those who don't like The Beatles, they just have a different tastes in music. Some like rap, some like heavy matel, some like opera, some like country, some like soft rock, some like hard rock, or some like more than one of the above etc...

Like Georgiegirl said "we can't explain why people don't like certain things that we do like" and yes it is ignorance when someone says they Hate something and have no reason to hate it, considering they don't have anything to back up their reasons.

Perhapes maybe some who don't care for The Beatles just isn't into their type of music, and would rather get down and head bang to some really loud music that nobody can really make out the words too. I'm not into that type of music, but some are considering they like the feeling they get from the loud thump of the bass. In my opinion, someone might as well release a bassist solo album instead, considering you can not really make out the rest of the band too well. Anyways, The Beatles isn't a band that includes that extremly heavy and loud noise that nobody can understand, which it seems, many young men my age seem to be getting into. That's one of the reasons I love The Beatles soo much. Yes they have a few heavy rock songs, but you can still understand the words. If you get what I mean?

Originally Posted by NaomiMcCartney

I think for those who don't like The Beatles, they just have a different tastes in music. Some like rap, some like heavy matel, some like opera, some like country, some like soft rock, some like hard rock, or some like more than one of the above etc...

Like Georgiegirl said "we can't explain why people don't like certain things that we do like" and yes it is ignorance when someone says they Hate something and have no reason to hate it, considering they don't have anything to back up their reasons.

Perhapes maybe some who don't care for The Beatles just isn't into their type of music, and would rather get down and head bang to some really loud music that nobody can really make out the words too. I'm not into that type of music, but some are considering they like the feeling they get from the loud thump of the bass. In my opinion, someone might as well release a bassist solo album instead, considering you can not really make out the rest of the band too well. Anyways, The Beatles isn't a band that includes that extremly heavy and loud noise that nobody can understand, which it seems, many young men my age seem to be getting into. That's one of the reasons I love The Beatles soo much. Yes they have a few heavy rock songs, but you can still understand the words. If you get what I mean?

The problem with this explaination though is that I have seen many posts on Rate Your Music and Amazon.com etc where young people list The Beatles as their favorite band or one of their favorite bands right along with Led Zeppelin,Black Sabbath(of course even Ozzy Osbourne's favorite group is The Beatles!) The Who,Pink Floyd etc. Also I have seen people say they like similar artists like Fleetwood Mac ,Crosby,Stills and Nash, but not like The Beatles! Do you see what I mean,it's really hard to understand! And the irony is David Crosby and Gram Nash were friends and fans of The Beatles and their harmonies are similar!

I think this is getting a little bit silly, your all wasting your time concerning yourselves with people who don't like Beatles music for whatever reason. Just let it be, you can't change people let them change themselves, and just enjoy whatever music it is that you dig. As long as you like it, noone can prevent you from listenng to it, so why complain ?

Originally Posted by NaomiMcCartney

I think for those who don't like The Beatles, they just have a different tastes in music. Some like rap, some like heavy matel, some like opera, some like country, some like soft rock, some like hard rock, or some like more than one of the above etc...

Like Georgiegirl said "we can't explain why people don't like certain things that we do like" and yes it is ignorance when someone says they Hate something and have no reason to hate it, considering they don't have anything to back up their reasons.

Perhapes maybe some who don't care for The Beatles just isn't into their type of music, and would rather get down and head bang to some really loud music that nobody can really make out the words too. I'm not into that type of music, but some are considering they like the feeling they get from the loud thump of the bass. In my opinion, someone might as well release a bassist solo album instead, considering you can not really make out the rest of the band too well. Anyways, The Beatles isn't a band that includes that extremly heavy and loud noise that nobody can understand, which it seems, many young men my age seem to be getting into. That's one of the reasons I love The Beatles soo much. Yes they have a few heavy rock songs, but you can still understand the words. If you get what I mean?

The other thing is,as I and other people have pointed out it's hard not to like at least some of The Beatles music,because you had 2 briiliant song writers John and Paul,and a third very talented one George, and they all had different styles of writing in many ways and The Beatles did many different types of music!