Perfect White Album - Page 2

62hofner · May 27, 2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by J van E

Now can you Americans imagine why I am having problems with the first US lp's...? :) To me a one-album-White-album sounds just as weird as any Capitol-release. But I'm sure it's the same the other way around. ;)

I just saw the tracklisting of Beatles VI. OMG it hurts me so to see some songs from Help! mixed with Beatles for sale and a few covers... They are completely out of CONTEXT! What were they thinking! And only 5 songs on side B! OMG...

Likewise... in 1987 when the Parlophone albums were released on CD, the entire world of Beatles albums was turned upside down for me and nothing made sense.....

"What the heck is 'Yesterday' doing stuck all the way towards the end of 'Help!'???.... Why on earth isn't 'I Want To Hold Your Hand' on 'With The Beatles'???..... Huh? 'Drive My Car' kicks off 'Rubber Soul'??? Heaven help me!..."

Legs · May 27, 2007, 01:57 PM

zzzzzz

sandmountainslim · May 27, 2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by J van E

???

I'm sure The Beatles/Ringo Starr would become a millionseller...

THE BEATLES/RINGO STARR VOLUME 1

Act Naturally
I Wanna Be Your Man
Octopus's Garden
Matchbox
Don't Pass Me By
If You've Got Trouble
What Goes On
With A Little Help From My Friends
Carry That Weight
Good Night

It would be the biggest thing since Beatles 1 and people would be sitting on edge waiting for the albums featuring the other three fellers :)
WP

Hari's Chick · May 27, 2007, 07:13 PM

So long as the White album had Piggies, Savoy Truffle, Long Long Long, and While My Guitar Gently Weeps, it'd be perfect enough for me.

Hari's Chick · May 27, 2007, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 62hofner

Likewise... in 1987 when the Parlophone albums were released on CD, the entire world of Beatles albums was turned upside down for me and nothing made sense.....

"What the heck is 'Yesterday' doing stuck all the way towards the end of 'Help!'???.... Why on earth isn't 'I Want To Hold Your Hand' on 'With The Beatles'???..... Huh? 'Drive My Car' kicks off 'Rubber Soul'??? Heaven help me!..."

Exactly... I grew up on the American albums and that order sounds perfect to my ears.

FPSHOT · May 27, 2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 62hofner

"What the heck is 'Yesterday' doing stuck all the way towards the end of 'Help!'???.... Why on earth isn't 'I Want To Hold Your Hand' on 'With The Beatles'???..... Huh? 'Drive My Car' kicks off 'Rubber Soul'??? Heaven help me!..."

It is how the Beatles made the albums. They even were included in the ranking of each song for the albums.

So to say "Heaven help me" to their handmade products is like...

oh well..whatever...let's just take it lightly..the discussion never ends...

cicada42 · May 27, 2007, 10:11 PM

Going back to the White Album discussion, I'd like to add a little twist:

Let's consider what the Beatles would have wanted to do. This becomes a bit harder, because we know they all would have insisted on certain songs (Paul McCartney/Ob La Di, John Lennon/Rev 9).

This brings to light the fact that, if the album was a single album, each of the Beatles would have been disappointed with the track listing because of excluding this or that song. They could have broken up right then and there. And then we wouldn't have Abbey Road or Let It Be.

One more thing I'd like to add: Ending the album with Rev 9 followed by Good Night was perhaps the best possible way. Hearing the serene orchestral passage coming out of the insane chaos of Rev 9 makes me feel like everything is great with the world. Good Night wouldn't have done that otherwise. So the two songs actually have a crucial role in the album's structure. Just more food for thought.

Legs · May 27, 2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cicada42

One more thing I'd like to add: Ending the album with Rev 9 followed by Good Night was perhaps the best possible way. Hearing the serene orchestral passage coming out of the insane chaos of Rev 9 makes me feel like everything is great with the world. Good Night wouldn't have done that otherwise. So the two songs actually have a crucial role in the album's structure. Just more food for thought.

Now this are the kind of discusions I like.
It's a clever way of ending the album. After the turmoil we're asured that everything will be alright again, and we can sleep well.

J van E · May 28, 2007, 01:25 AM

Yeah, nice idea. Maybe John planned it that way...? (Funny that most people think Goodnight is a McCartney-song! ;) )

jtal909 · May 28, 2007, 06:38 AM

If I were to make a mix cd from the white album I'd leave out Ob La Di, Bungalow Bill, Piggies, Rev 9, and Birthday.
Not songs I'd want to hear in rotation.

cicada42 · May 28, 2007, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by J van E

Yeah, nice idea. Maybe John planned it that way...? (Funny that most people think Goodnight is a McCartney-song! ;) )

I read that Good Night was a song written for Julian Lennon. John's wife (exwife?) Cynthia got angry because John had Ringo sing it. Still, Ringo does a pretty good job on it, and so did George Martin ;)

Nathan Schmathan · May 28, 2007, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FPSHOT

So to say "Heaven help me" to their handmade products is like...

I think saying 'heaven help me' was just meant to illustrate the feeling/disappointment a lot of American Beatle-heads had when the CD versions turned out not to be the LPs they grew up with.

At least that's how I read it.

BadLittleKid · May 28, 2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 62hofner

"What the heck is 'Yesterday' doing stuck all the way towards the end of 'Help!'???.... Why on earth isn't 'I Want To Hold Your Hand' on 'With The Beatles'???..... Huh? 'Drive My Car' kicks off 'Rubber Soul'??? Heaven help me!..."

I was also expecting to find some special songs from the main albums. I do consider the UK albums generally better but I am known of defending the Capitol albums as well.

beatlebangs1964 · May 28, 2007, 07:43 PM

Omit "Birthday," which I think is a genuine stinker; "Revolution 9" which I never liked and "Wild Honey Pie" which I think is another big stinker.

Leave these stinkbombs off and you have a perfect White Album (that is IMHO).

BadLittleKid · May 29, 2007, 12:01 AM

It's too short then...

cicada42 · May 29, 2007, 07:08 AM

And Good Night, as I already stated, wouldn't be as great a song if Rev 9 wasn't there. Anyway, Rev 9 does have some merit to it.

pattiboyd's slave · May 30, 2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by matt5

The Beatles is perfect just the way it is....

and I mean that with complete sincerity

not only my favourite Beatle album but my favourite album of all time

a work of art really

timeless

a celebration of creativity and beauty

life itself

a mystery

an enigma

an unsolvable puzzle

light and darkness

and everything in between

it shifts

it changes

breathes

a living work of art

that exists on some sort of

ethereal plane

I likes your style matt! sincerely!

Jim Colyer · May 30, 2007, 06:25 PM

Rev 9 let Paul know that he was not going to take over the group.

sadaussie · May 31, 2007, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Colyer

Rev 9 let Paul know that he was not going to take over the group.

yes but it was complete and utter CRAP and did not make any sense!

jtal909 · May 31, 2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sadaussie

yes but it was complete and utter CRAP and did not make any sense!

I totally agree and can't believe anybody can honestly say they like rev 9 and are not posing.
If I hear one more person call it "art" I'm going to pour pot roast all over my chest :)
I can't believe they all let John put this on a Beatle record.