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Old Jul 15, 2012, 03:26 PM   #41
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Why are you so sure that Sean growing his hair or dressing in a particular way is in an attempt to look like his father? Why should he have to go out of his way to NOT look like a person who gave him half of his DNA?

And you know - even though I don't think he's done it to look like John - SO WHAT if he has?! He's John's son and if anyone has a right to style themselves on him, he most certainly does.

This kind of thing is nothing new to Sean. I remember reading YEARS ago on is forum where someone was having him on for wearing glasses because that was apparently trying to be like John and not to help him see. No point me even saying any of this anyway since to Sean it's all water off a duck's back.
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Is the idea of Sean copying John JUST based around the beard and long hair? If that's the case, then that seems like a very stupid thing to say in all honesty.

I wore an identical type of suit that was like a vest thing to my school formal, like what Dad wore to his wedding. I wasn't copying him - we both liked that style. Also, he had a beard, sometimes I grow facial hair. He doesn't have a monopoly on beards and that - I see it all the time and I, by myself, come to the conclusion it looks cool. If my Dad was a Beatle and Beatle maniacs were trying to link me to being some grotesque copy cat, I'd really resent them. As Sean tried to point out once, being a son of a Beatle isn't as glamorous as you might think.

Anyway, it's not as if John was always original. He followed his share of fads and tried to look like his idols now and again.

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I've been out of the loop on Sean's Twitter for some time, but I just recently checked it out and you are so right. This is a very serious topic and Sean handled it in a way that shows he really does NOT take himself too seriously. I noticed that ONTD got a hold of it and, instead of applauding Sean and focusing on the matter, they used it as a vehicle to showcase their idiocy and sheer superficiality. I'm glad. It only goes to show that the few people who DID realize this was something meant to be taken with humor and intelligence on that blog are the hope we have left for this generation.

I bookmarked his site and I am doing some side research on this topic. I appreciate this greatly and I know John would have.
as much as I hate ONTD, and they suck big time and are douche's to boot, take this to heart: The ONTD Beatles LJ is so lame and dead that the last entry was about when Paul announced his engagement. THey didn't even bother with the wedding. THey couldn't touch the Beatles in its own group
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That memory just shows that John understood that Paul's looks caught people's eyes first--the large romantic eyes, the cute little nose, the Cupid's bow of a mouth. Very immediately eye-catching.

Of course, once you really spent some time looking at the group, I think John had the more "classic" beauty. Classic as in Classical Antiquity.

Kind of like Charlie's Angels (the original). EVERYONE noticed Farrah first--the sexy blonde with the flowing mane and the megawatt smile. Once you watched them for awhile, though, you realized the most beautiful Angel was really Jacklyn Smith...

(My opinion, Paul- and George-stans!)
actually, in the context of the whole story (they were in a car surrounded by fans on all sides trying to get at them and shaking the car around) it shows John looks out for himself with a sense of humor.
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Well, I just read the comments about the show in the French Beatles-forum... and they aren't very favourable. The sense of humour of Sean during the interview is overall appreciated, but many think it's grotesque that Sean's looking like John in 1969.... and I've got the same impression, I'm afraid.

I really like and respect Sean, but he should stick to his own style and not trying "hard" to look like John. Seeing him on stage, looking like his dead father next to Yoko makes me kind of sick, I'm afraid.

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Why are you so sure that Sean growing his hair or dressing in a particular way is in an attempt to look like his father? Why should he have to go out of his way to NOT look like a person who gave him half of his DNA?

And you know - even though I don't think he's done it to look like John - SO WHAT if he has?! He's John's son and if anyone has a right to style themselves on him, he most certainly does.

This kind of thing is nothing new to Sean. I remember reading YEARS ago on is forum where someone was having him on for wearing glasses because that was apparently trying to be like John and not to help him see. No point me even saying any of this anyway since to Sean it's all water off a duck's back.
the round glasses were doing it the most. those became John's trademark. I had some when I was trying to look like John too as a teen right after he died.
but I think it was just for the show and the song since John is a symbol of protest songs.
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I don't care what your opinion on Yoko is, watching her bounce a globe in her hands as she says "Don't frack me!" is pretty damn endearing.

As Dylan parodies go, it was no "Serve Yourself" but it was amusing enough. Jimmy Fallon has really earned a good niche for himself in the late night world with his musical numbers...he released a CD of some of them last month (including "Scrambled Eggs") and it's a lot of fun.
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Yeah, that's cool, J.Winston.L ... ... and that's the way I feel sometimes in this forum

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Why are you so sure that Sean growing his hair or dressing in a particular way is in an attempt to look like his father? Why should he have to go out of his way to NOT look like a person who gave him half of his DNA?

And you know - even though I don't think he's done it to look like John - SO WHAT if he has?! He's John's son and if anyone has a right to style themselves on him, he most certainly does.

This kind of thing is nothing new to Sean. I remember reading YEARS ago on is forum where someone was having him on for wearing glasses because that was apparently trying to be like John and not to help him see. No point me even saying any of this anyway since to Sean it's all water off a duck's back.

I feel the way Lucy thinks about this issue.I don't think that Sean is growing his hair long and has a beard. Because he is trying to look like his Dad.Of course he looks like his Dad.He is John's son.He wears glass's because he needs to wear them for his bad vision.He has said in many interviews.That he is not trying to copy his Dad.He is dressing and the hair on his face and head.Is that way because he wants to grow it that way.Sean does look like his Dad.Like most kids and people do look like their parents or relatives.Sean has used many styles and different kinds of glass's for his entire life.If you look at older photographs of him.Sean has had a beard growing for quite a while.Sometimes the beard is longer and sometimes its shorter.The style and length of it is nothing new.Its been that style and that long before.Depending on whether he has shaved and cut back a little or not. He has every right to look anyway he wants.He is a honest,good caring guy with a kind heart.I think he is very talented and a great musician.He supports many good causes.His voice isn't that great maybe,but he more than makes up for it with his talent on his guitar,piano and other things he plays.His songs and music is original.He is creative and artistic.He is funny and witty on stage to etc.I think everyone has a right to their personal opinions.I don't expect to change anyones minds about this.The same way I have no intention of changing my views on Sean or his mom.I am positive that right now that John's spirit is looking at both of his sons with great pride.Everyone have a safe, positive and great week and take care.
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Old Jul 16, 2012, 02:37 PM   #51
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Just wild speculation on my part, but it should fit in because 96% of the content here is speculation, but I have a question,....do you think Yoko got turned on seeing John Lennon in the flesh, by her side on the Jimmy Fallon show?
Do you think Yoko mastermined the John "Wedding Album" look of her son?
Do you think Yoko is playing "Mind Games" with her son?
Do you think that Sean and Yoko are cashing in on John Lennon's name and fame?
Did it blow your mind as much as it did Sean that Yoko wrote some stuff in the 1950's about someone named "John" (such a rare name) even before she met John Lennon?
Do you feel the need to take Yoko's sissors and cut off a peice of her clothes because that is "performance" art, not to get the dudes turned on of course and sell a lot of tickets, heavens no.
When John looked thru the peephole and saw the word "Yes" did he have a black mark around his eye?,...and was Yoko laughing inside?
I can't help it but I have to ask, what is the true relationship between the John lookalike aka Sean and his Mother?,...on second thought, don't answer that.

Opps, they did it again,...(my apologizes to Britney)


We can get married in Gibraltar near Spain.

Or maybe a late night talk show like Tiny Tim did on the Johnny Carson show if Jimmy Fallon wants wants big time ratings.
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Obviously, I don't agree with your assumptions about Yoko's and Sean's motives. I can understand why, in certain instances, someone could make an argument for Yoko "cashing in" on John's name/legend/reputation, etc. I don't agree with it, but I believe a plausible argument could be made.

What I don't understand--and what you haven't yet answered--is how you think Sean is making money off of trying to style his hair to look like John. You've just said that it was "freaky."

Most of Sean's appearances that I've seen/read/heard for the last few years have been either to promote a cause, a friend, or his mom. When he had an album to promote, he did it just as any young artist would... in fact, I think he was even more low-key about it than most. He was playing smaller gigs and lesser-known festivals... I didn't see him on Leno or American Idol or anything.* If he were truly trying to exploit his connection with his dad, don't you think he could've arranged something a little more grand in scale?

* = Yes, he did Letterman a few years back... but he didn't have Wedding Album hair. Or do you think he was trying to channel 1964 John with his Beatle bob?

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P.S. Would you say that Julian was "cashing in" as well? After all, he played Letterman wearing his hair White Album style and a t-shirt that said... well, you can read it for yourself:

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I think Sean's look was because it was a pretty standard look for a protest singer. JOhn came up with the glasses but even he didn't come up with the hair and the denim. He just ran with it. I think sean was parodying the look of a protest singer and probably felt it was easier to do his father's look then Dylan's. (What would he look like with Dylan's hair?)
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From what I have read on the internet about Sean and Charlotte together in that bed photograph.Sean has said that it was a private photograph that some photographer leaked.That was not even suppose to get out into the public or posted or published anywhere.I think it does look cute.It would have looked better,if Sean had less clothes on for it.lol I'm also not some blind,groupie that just loves Sean and Yoko and everything and anything they do.I'm 54 years old and not like that with any band or musician etc.I hope Sean keeps doing exactly what he wants to do with his hair,looks and music and art etc.He has said in many interviews he is use to people saying that he trying to look and act like his Dad.When he not trying to.He is just being himself.I am sure his Dad has influenced things about him.But I doubt that he just trying to look exactly like his Dad all the time.

I have couple related articles about this to.

Contact Music
7/15/2012
John Lennon - Yoko Ono And Sean Lennon Launch Artists Against Fracking

John Lennon's widow Yoko Ono and their son Sean have launched a celebrity coalition campaigning against drilling techniques in the natural gas industry which could cause the contamination of water sources across America.

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/yok...acking_1366069

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Video: Yoko Ono, Sean Lennon make a late-night pitch against fracking

Yoko Ono and Sean Lennon made an interesting team together on Friday night's “Late Night With Jimmy Fallon” show.

http://www.examiner.com/article/yoko...ainst-fracking
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I don't think J.Winston.L and I will really ever see eye to eye on this matter of assuming Sean is just out for what he can leech off his father's memory. As a Sean fan for several years, I know how invested he has been in running a music label, producing albums, and spearheading shows. He has been in many different bands, written songs for various people, films, events, etc. His prolificness as his own artist is undisputed, and just because he isn't your cup of tea does not give you the right to accost every move he makes as having ulterior motives. This is a man who has every right to evoke the memory of his father, and Sean does it- for the most part- in a very subtle and beautiful way. Hands down his essay for the Lennon Signature box was the most expressively written, emotional, and perfect tribute a son could give his father.

Aside from his undeniable talent. Yes, come at me J. Winston. L because Sean is incredibly talented and has a very warm and witty charm about him. I 100% back everything Maia said about his efforts to promote his work in ways that are more of the indie ilk. He isn't just "that hipster" because most people who have worked with him/know him/seen him perform & play respect him as an artist because he IS a gifted one.

Also, I really don't know what is being said of Yoko and Sean's relationship by J. Winston. L but Sean has lived on his own for decades and he has a lady and a life separate from his mother. It just so happens that he feels some duty as a son, to protect Yoko from the ravenous vultures who find pleasure in breaking down every move she makes, as if she was some kind of evil villainous.

How come you aren't throwing shade on Julian for being a mama's boy?
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I don't think J.Winston.L and I will really ever see eye to eye on this matter of assuming Sean is just out for what he can leech off his father's memory. As a Sean fan for several years, I know how invested he has been in running a music label, producing albums, and spearheading shows. He has been in many different bands, written songs for various people, films, events, etc. His prolificness as his own artist is undisputed, and just because he isn't your cup of tea does not give you the right to accost every move he makes as having ulterior motives. This is a man who has every right to evoke the memory of his father, and Sean does it- for the most part- in a very subtle and beautiful way. Hands down his essay for the Lennon Signature box was the most expressively written, emotional, and perfect tribute a son could give his father.

Aside from his undeniable talent. Yes, come at me J. Winston. L because Sean is incredibly talented and has a very warm and witty charm about him. I 100% back everything Maia said about his efforts to promote his work in ways that are more of the indie ilk. He isn't just "that hipster" because most people who have worked with him/know him/seen him perform & play respect him as an artist because he IS a gifted one.

Also, I really don't know what is being said of Yoko and Sean's relationship by J. Winston. L but Sean has lived on his own for decades and he has a lady and a life separate from his mother. It just so happens that he feels some duty as a son, to protect Yoko from the ravenous vultures who find pleasure in breaking down every move she makes, as if she was some kind of evil villainous.

How come you aren't throwing shade on Julian for being a mama's boy?
Thanks Applescruff for posting that.Thats how I feel about this about Sean and Yoko to.I agree that he has every right to evoke the memory of his father, and Sean does it for the most part in a very subtle and beautiful way.
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I don't think J.Winston.L and I will really ever see eye to eye on this matter of assuming Sean is just out for what he can leech off his father's memory.
No, apparently not... but he can 'splain himself, Lucy!!!!

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No, I wouldn't say that Julian was "cashing in"... Though this video is a good argument, I don't think you can compare it with the last performance of Sean.

First, Julian isn't that kind of guy who cares that much on his physical appearance like Sean. He changes his look from time to time, but never was "stylish" (for instance wearing hats, glasses, beard, special dresses etc.), like his brother Sean. Furthermore, he's not performing like a copy of John with his widow at his side.

Secondly, Julian never gave me at any time the impression that he wanted to "copy" his dad in any way. Sean "proved" it already in posing with his girlfriend alike John & Yoko for the Rolling-Stone cover (thank's for the reminder, J.Winston.L, with "oops they did it again"). I mean, that wasn't really necessary, was it ?

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I agree that he has every right to evoke the memory of his father, and Sean does it for the most part in a very subtle and beautiful way.
Of course he has the right to evoke the memory of his dad, but pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase in a more subtle way !!!!!!!!!

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