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Old Nov 08, 2011, 06:12 AM   #21
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Such a long post it's taken me a bit to gear up to answering.

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Sorry I think you are missing the point, I wasn't saying that but the Helterskelter has considerably more information than the STATB/Pear release.
Okay, I see what you mean. The problem is of course when a collector has a lot of these less well documented releases. Scrap everything and starting over doesn't sound too exciting.

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I can let you have details of the forum if you wish, sorry I do not know if is allowed to post openly here.
Serena has to answer that but I think it's allowed.

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With regards to pooling resources the Beatleg Project and Bootleg Zone were exactly that until dozens of traders were more interested in collecting titles than than the music and the songs data base is now almost worthless.
I have noticed. That database is full of undetermined and unidentified tracks. At most it tells you what bootlegs a certain song appears on but precious little of what take or mix or provenance it has. Very annoying.

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I have numerous discussions with collector about a bootleg only to find the mastering and some times takes are different on a single title pressed by two different labels with the same title and some times same artwork.
This is even more 'fun' when downloading a boot. It can be anything. Like, for instance, what CLAIMS to be the Howard Smith Collection (BC095) of interviews with John and Yoko, but instead of finding the expected 21 tracks, here I stand with 28 tracks with little or no way to sort out what I have. The track titles don't help either as they're in the style Unknown Artist - Unknown Title - 01. Track01.mp3. Seems pretty much a worthless download to me.

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I have yet to locate and listen to the And I Love Her track. Like #5 - Alternate AHDN , but I will locate and report back.
Thank you. No worries though. I can survive without knowing, I promise!

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The original fan who created the first Pear CDR' s over a decade ago rarely put anything exceptional into his discs, so I doubt this is unique or rare.
Thanks for that info. I'll keep it in mind!
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Old Jan 23, 2012, 06:13 AM   #22
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I've heard some outtakes on radio Beatle shows and am usually thrilled to hear the different versions or personal interactions. But do not have any of them in my collection. These Helter Skelter collections seem ideal for a newbie looking to have a listen to all these wonderful alternate takes and glimpses into the creative process.
Am I correct that they would be a great collection for the fan who has none yet? If so, why can't my searches find this label or a place to download the material? Does anyone recommend a site for this label for downloads?
I also have a CD a friend gave me with individual tracks from 4 songs on Sgnt Pepper. I love hearing the individual playing and arrangements and am looking for a site to get more of these isolated tracks.
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Old Jan 24, 2012, 03:34 PM   #23
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Absolutely, either these or the Purple Chick releases would be sufficient. Purple Chick as well contains many of those additional Sgt. Pepper tracks worth having such as the multitracks.

There are many links here that offer downloads for the 'Back to Basics' collection; however, they are mostly in MP3 which is still adequate for a start. I've also included some links to some of the Purple Chick sets, most of which are in MP3 as well.

http://www.filestube.com/look_for.ht...+basics&page=1

http://www.filestube.com/b/beatles+purple+chick
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 06:19 AM   #24
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Thanks so much for info. But if the MP3s are merely "adequate for a start," what site might have better? I thought one of the benefits of the helterskelter backtobasics mentioned in this thread was the high quality of the sound. I'm sure I'd be happy with good MP3s (256 or 320 bit rates) but if you think the sites you listed are only good enough quality for beginners, I would probably want to replace them pretty soon. If that's the case, I'd rather just get the better stuff and be done. What do you recommend?
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Thanks so much for info. But if the MP3s are merely "adequate for a start," what site might have better? I thought one of the benefits of the helterskelter backtobasics mentioned in this thread was the high quality of the sound. I'm sure I'd be happy with good MP3s (256 or 320 bit rates) but if you think the sites you listed are only good enough quality for beginners, I would probably want to replace them pretty soon. If that's the case, I'd rather just get the better stuff and be done. What do you recommend?
Okay sorry, for a newbie I wasn't sure how much quality mattered.

Here's the 'Back to Basics' sets in lossless:

http://losslessalbum.com/2011/10/09/...-cds-2011.html

Here's a few Purple Chick, including 'Sgt. Pepper' with the additional tracks:

http://losslessalbum.com/search/beatles+purple+chick
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