The Beatles break-up and relationships afterword.

Okay, I have been so depressed and disillusioned lately. I was reading about the Beatles and their break-up and of course I know that when they broke up, for a while things were kind of bad between them but I'm wondering, did things get better between them? I just find it hard to believe that after being so close for decades, they could just stop caring that much and some of the things I've seen some people say make me think they just never got along again. :P

And on that note, I also read about how the rest of the band never got on well with Paul and it was always them against him. I'm kind of split. It does sound very fishy that they just never got on well with him but then again, they had to protect their image.

I don't know, I've just been thinking about this all too hard lately and I just want to get other fan's opinions. Do you think it was that severe that there was just always this huge rift in the band and they were never as close as they seemed?

Ugh, sorry for the rant, I just have really been bothered by this lately...

They loved each other like brothers. Brothers fight and make up. There's no doubt that these guys never stopped loving or caring deeply for one another because of a bad patch. JMO.

Wow, those are some very major questions you pose!! To answer them properly would take a great deal of time, to say the least. There are so many perspectives and issues to consider, that I really suggest that you start doing some reading on the subject yourself. You should read the biographies and histories that are out there, the book You Never Give Me Your Money, old interviews, etc.

In matters such as these, I think you should be as well-informed of the facts as possible, so that you can formulate your own opinions on the matter and not be influenced by the way other people see things.

Originally Posted by twoofusgoingnowhere

Okay, I have been so depressed and disillusioned lately. I was reading about the Beatles and their break-up and of course I know that when they broke up, for a while things were kind of bad between them but I'm wondering, did things get better between them? I just find it hard to believe that after being so close for decades, they could just stop caring that much and some of the things I've seen some people say make me think they just never got along again.

It's pretty depressing and disillusioning to me too. For a while I spent a lot of time thinking about it, trying to find a way, in my mind, for it to be a redemptive story. I know it could have been so, so much worse, but thinking about the price they paid for their fame, and the deterioration of their relationships --especially between Paul and George, and Paul and John -- it's sometimes just too sad for me to contemplate. So in the end, I just think about the music they left us, because no matter how bad it was or wasn't between them, they maintained their high musical standards until the very end.

Don't worry about it. They all had their own lives to live but sometimes met up and had a great time together. Here's John and Paul in 1974 and George, Ringo and Paul in 1981 all relaxed and having a cool time!
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...0&tx=155&ty=91
http://www.norwegianwood.org/beatles...hreetles1.html

I believe that when we look back at the four people, between 1969 and 1973 ish there was a lot going on, also because of the legal things Paul set up.

I do not think there were negative vibes between Ringo, George and John in that period, also seeing how they worked together on their albums.

Round the mid 70's I believe from what I have read and seen, a lot had been forgotten about and whilst having separate lives more than before the break-up, they were still pretty close and the distance with Paul on a personal level was much less. Music wise it was different but that we already has seen developing when they were still together as a band.

But on a personal level I believe they were very close as brothers, and met more than we know of because they wanted that kept private. There's lots of stories though like Paul visiting Friar Park playing ukes, the Anthology times, Paul being with George in his last days holding hands, George and John meeting, Ringo always being there.

I know what you mean about it all being a bit upsetting. But like Duke says, try not to get too worried about it since they still did have good times together!!

I think that there were things said and done between them all that led them to bad situations....the legal stuff with Paul, the George/John rift, the George/Ringo wife-swap scenario...but at the end of the day, I don't think that the four of them hated each other or regretted much about the times when they DID get along.

I think the John/Paul relationship is absolutely fascinating and the fact that they had their bad patches makes it even more interesting and amazing. To know that on the night he died, John had said to that guy that had interviewed him that he loved Paul like a brother makes it so beautiful.

I know it's like completley fictional, but the movie "two of us", about a "visit" Paul made to John a few years before his death, is really good!! I usually just watch their interviews and stuff. Unfortunatley though I so think thy should have stayed together for at least 5 more years. Look at aerosmith; 40 years! And I mean all of that "creative differences" etc, John said was just bullshit. They werent going to "sing she loves you when their 40." they already werent singing she loves you at 25! They could have all pitched in and done what they wanted. Oh well, we can never go back, and just look at what impact those 10 years had on life for eternity..... ( deep I know) :D

The break up didn't really deprive us of anything. So Maybe I'm Amazed was a McCartney song rather than a Beatles' song. We got to hear All Things Must Pass and Jealous Guy. All the music was still produced. Far more than had they stayed together w the three principal writers were under the constraint of 18 minutes per side.

At least that's how I like to view it

Originally Posted by Lucy

I think the John/Paul relationship is absolutely fascinating and the fact that they had their bad patches makes it even more interesting and amazing. To know that on the night he died, John had said to that guy that had interviewed him that he loved Paul like a brother makes it so beautiful.

I agree. We have to remember that they were still young men at the time, full of themselves as young men are, and both with very large egos. I remember seeing John quoted as saying that he and Paul "carved up the empire". I think there was a lot of competitiveness between them, especially since in the later years Paul took on more and more of the creative load.

And while it's true that brothers fight amongst themselves, they are also each other's biggest defenders, and we see/saw that with all four of them.

Considering how different they are/were, I have come to think it was amazing that they were ever even a group in the first place.

As said above, tensions eventually subsided, particularly between John and Paul. You must remember that by then they were all living in different places, were raising or starting families, fighting to stay in the US, and most of all, striving to define their new identities sans the Beatle label.