BeatleLinks LogoNav Panel New Sites Cool Sites Top Rated Fab Forum Add A Site Link To Us Revolution Radio New Products



Go Back   BeatleLinks Fab Forum > Beatles Forums > Paperback Writer


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Nov 16, 2013, 08:01 AM   #1
Simba7666
Fool On The Hill
 
Join Date: Sep 16, 2013
Posts: 9
Default Unbiased book?

Can anyone recommend an unbiased yet accurate book about The Beatles? I have a lot of books and my son would like to read some more about the Beatles but I find so many of them are biased toward John Lennon and dismiss Paul as being uncreative, unoriginal and just downright sappy. I do have Paul's autobiography Many Years From Now which is nice and I think he is very diplomatic in it but it doesn't say a lot about the other Beatles. One I have which is horribly biased is Two of Us Lennon and McCartney behind the myth. That one is downright mean in my opinion. So any suggestions? My son is 11.

Last edited by Simba7666 : Nov 16, 2013 at 08:02 AM.
Simba7666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 17, 2013, 12:18 PM   #2
Maia 66
Sun King
 
Join Date: Sep 09, 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 5,360

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Simba7666 View Post
I find so many of them are biased toward John Lennon and dismiss Paul as being uncreative, unoriginal and just downright sappy.
I have read many Beatle books–and, as a Lennon fan, that includes all the supposedly "biased toward John" books–and I have never seen one that dismisses "Paul as being uncreative, unoriginal and just downright sappy."

That being said, if you are looking for a book with unbiased facts, reason, and scrupulous research, then there's really only one answer.
__________________

All I want is the truth
Just give me some truth...



Last edited by Maia 66 : Nov 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM.
Maia 66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 19, 2013, 07:33 PM   #3
Winston O' Boogie
Day Tripper
 
Winston O' Boogie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 12, 2013
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 310
Default

Most books seemed to be biased in telling Lennon's life in a way that would not offend the myth, the family and the fans ..... that said, I really enjoyed Ray Coleman bio as well has the new one by Philip Norman John Lennon: The Life and as we all know the talents of both Lennon and McCartney have be laid in stone as Paul being the romantic tunes smith and John the surreal wordsmith I would not think that those statements could be denied and if they are then it's just another way of tearing down a myth and replacing it with another view it all depends now on your personal taste what one believes.
Winston O' Boogie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 22, 2013, 05:53 PM   #4
Simba7666
Fool On The Hill
 
Join Date: Sep 16, 2013
Posts: 9
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maia 66 View Post
I have read many Beatle books–and, as a Lennon fan, that includes all the supposedly "biased toward John" books–and I have never seen one that dismisses "Paul as being uncreative, unoriginal and just downright sappy."

That being said, if you are looking for a book with unbiased facts, reason, and scrupulous research, then there's really only one answer.
Then you have obviously never read "Two of Us, John Lennon and Paul McCartney Behind the Myth"

Thanks for the info.
Simba7666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 23, 2013, 12:03 AM   #5
ringo_rama
Old Brown Shoe
 
ringo_rama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 08, 2003
Posts: 3,114
Default

Nothing by Geoffrey Giuliano is worth reading. He's never been known to let facts get in the way of salaciousness.

A lot of people consider Philip Norman's Shout! to be biased against Paul (including Paul himself; I think that book is what inspired his "Martin Luther Lennon" complaint)...but the truth is, the bias is actually against George, who apparently must have ran over Philip's dog and banged his mother or something. Even the obituary Philip Norman wrote for George was soaking in bitterness.

A great biography for young and old fans alike is Nicholas Schaffner's The Beatles Forever. It's been a while since I read it, but I don't remember there being any serious bias against any of the Beatles in general, although the author does make his honest opinions about the merit of certain solo records. It's a pretty quick, fun read. The only thing that might work against it is that it's from the late 70s and written by a nostalgic (but still enthusiastic) fan, so parts of it might require a little context on Dad's part.
__________________
I am the new way to go. I am the way of the future.

Please visualize this whenever you read my posts:
Yay!!!!!!
-R_R: eradicating stupidity, one post at a time
ringo_rama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 23, 2013, 08:20 AM   #6
jonesingjay
Moderator
 
jonesingjay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 01, 2013
Posts: 488


Default

Quote:
he bias is actually against George, who apparently must have ran over Philip's dog and banged his mother or something. Even the obituary Philip Norman wrote for George was soaking in bitterness.
What happened there? I never understood what Norman's problem was with George.
jonesingjay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 29, 2014, 07:14 AM   #7
Simba7666
Fool On The Hill
 
Join Date: Sep 16, 2013
Posts: 9
Default

Just came across this book in my Goodwill bag and glanced at it to see if it was as horrible as I thought. It was. Here is a small quote:
No one can blame Macca for the passage of time but it is unfortunate that so few dynamics of the young, adventurous Paul are apparent in the old, puffy one. As seemingly self satisfied as he is smug, Sir Paul has gotten just about everything he wanted out of life with the exception of John Lennon's reputation as the creative inspiration behind the Beatles. It was his jealously of John Lennon that motivated much of his great work. Now that his best years are long behind him, one wonders what he actually thinks about late at night lying in bed. Just about everyone who care realizes that John was THE MAN in The Beatles and that's the way it always will be.

McCartney is my favorite but I'm a fan of them all. I read Geoff Emerick's book which was really good but I cringed over the way he wrote about George. Very unfair. Basically said he was a jerk who could barely play the guitar.
Simba7666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 29, 2014, 09:20 AM   #8
wallrus59
Bulldog
 
wallrus59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 13, 2010
Posts: 2,084

Default

here's one list...

http://everyrecordtellsastory.com/th...beatles-books/
__________________
_______________________________________

wallrus59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 01, 2014, 07:04 PM   #9
misfittoy
Dr. Robert
 
misfittoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 14, 2011
Posts: 1,074
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maia 66 View Post
I have read many Beatle books–and, as a Lennon fan, that includes all the supposedly "biased toward John" books–and I have never seen one that dismisses "Paul as being uncreative, unoriginal and just downright sappy."

That being said, if you are looking for a book with unbiased facts, reason, and scrupulous research, then there's really only one answer.
Phillip Norman's Shout is very Lennon biased and in the original printing even used the phrase, "Stupid Cow eyes" in describing Paul. His reprinting is even worse.

Unbiased? Spitz's book. He obviously favors Paul but tried to give every Beatle a fair shake. It's an odd book in that at first he seems to gloss over or skip famous legends but then talks about what I thought was missing in another chapter. He also stated that his book is only about the stuff he knew to be actually true, not one where it seemed someone made stuff up even the Beatles themselves which puts an interesting perspective on it.
misfittoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 04, 2014, 05:18 AM   #10
Miss O'Dell
Dr. Robert
 
Miss O'Dell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 04, 2001
Location: Scarborough, UK
Posts: 1,141
Default

Mark Lewishon's book I think is quite even and unbiased. It's huge and something like 900 pages, but I'm reading it and I find it quite accessible and easy to read so don't let the thickness of it put you off! It goes between John, Paul, George, Ringo and others to try and show the whole story - not just all about John or all about Paul as some are.
__________________
George says:
LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
Read my Beatles Fan Fiction here! (please!)

* * *
Be sure to visit the Beatles Fan Fiction Directory !!
...and Atom Retro - My day job!
Miss O'Dell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 09, 2014, 07:05 AM   #11
Simba7666
Fool On The Hill
 
Join Date: Sep 16, 2013
Posts: 9
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wallrus59 View Post
Thank you for that list. I love to read things that come from all different perspectives. I just read Love Me Do by Michael Braun and it was great. It showed the beatles as they were not as we saw in the press. Though they were rather jaded and rude to the press too in my opinion.
Simba7666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2014, 11:45 AM   #12
Joey Self
Fool On The Hill
 
Join Date: Jan 19, 2005
Posts: 27
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss O'Dell View Post
Mark Lewishon's book I think is quite even and unbiased. It's huge and something like 900 pages, but I'm reading it and I find it quite accessible and easy to read so don't let the thickness of it put you off! It goes between John, Paul, George, Ringo and others to try and show the whole story - not just all about John or all about Paul as some are.
I agree that Mark's work is excellent, but I wouldn't recommend it to an 11 year old for a couple of reasons. First, it's TOO much detail for a newbie to Beatles books, and second (and more importantly), it doesn't cover the part of the Beatles career that I'd expect an 11 year old to be interested in--the music/films.

I have to echo the suggestion of THE BEATLES FOREVER as the one for a young beginner. I remember lending it to my nephews when they were in their early teens. It is factual, it covers the first six or seven years of the solo years (the reader can stop after 1970 if he wants), and it has a lot of photos with the text.

The book is 35 years old, and is still in my top five Beatles book EV-AH.

JcS
Joey Self is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
John's Sad Love shyGirl I Read The News Today 26 Aug 09, 2014 03:46 PM
"Beatles Deeper Undercover" FPSHOT Paperback Writer 7 May 25, 2010 04:34 PM
Geoff Emericks Upcoming Beatles Book... Harb83 Paperback Writer 12 Apr 21, 2006 01:37 PM
Dear Sir Or Madame... JDanRyan Paperback Writer 1 Oct 19, 2002 01:29 PM
MY Review of the Stu Book HMVNipper Paperback Writer 4 Nov 27, 2001 10:09 PM


Advertisements

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Site Features
Search Links

  Advanced Search
Category Jump



BeatleMail

FREE E-MAIL
@ BEATLEMAIL.COM


Username


Password




New User Sign-Up!
Lost Password?
Beatles History




Donate
The costs of running our database and discussion forum are steadily rising. Any help we receive is greatly appreciated. Click HERE for more information about donating to BeatleLinks.
Extras
» Chat Room
» Current News
» Monthly Contest
» Interviews Database
» Random Site
» Banner Exchange
» F.A.Q.
» Advertise
» Credits
» Legal
» Contact Us
Copyright © 2000-2019 BeatleLinks
All Rights Reserved