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Old Jul 30, 2006, 05:29 PM   #1
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Default Fey Four: Beatles outed as gay icons

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The Sunday Times July 30, 2006

Fey Four: Beatles outed as gay icons
Robert Booth

THE Beatles have been outed. The Fab Four’s first album, Please Please Me, has been named as one of the top 50 gay albums of all time.
John, Paul, George and Ringo’s 1963 LP, featuring Twist and Shout and I Saw Her Standing There, is ranked alongside records by Abba, Elton John and Boy George in a gay pop pantheon published by Attitude, a gay lifestyle magazine.

“That summer it was the gay album,” said Simon Napier-Bell, the former manager of Wham! who nominated the record. “Every party, every club, everywhere you went, Please Please Me blasted out. George and Paul singing into one microphone, their cheeks touching, was the gayest thing we’d ever seen.”

The Beatles rarely wrote about homosexuality, although You’ve Got to Hide Your Love Away is thought to have been about Brian Epstein, their gay manager.

But the magazine claims the Beatles’ first album, ranked 30th in the list, represented “a turning point — the beginning of the modern gay era”, because it embodied a sense of sexual freedom and tolerance.

The top 50 includes Barbra Streisand, Take That and the Pet Shop Boys, but only one album dates back further: a 1961 recording at the Carnegie Hall in New York by Judy Garland, a gay icon whose role in The Wizard of Oz gave rise to the term “a friend of Dorothy” to mean a gay man.

The list is topped by the eponymous debut by Scissor Sisters, the New York band. Their success coincides with a boom in gay music.

“It has become fashionable to listen to gay music whether you are gay or not,” said Peter Tatchell, the gay rights campaigner. “Gay culture is seen as the cutting edge of all kinds of invention, not just in music, but also fashion, art and design.”

For Boy George, who nominated David Bowie’s 1970 record The Man Who Sold the World, the days of gay musicians portraying themselves as straight are over.

“Now lots of straight boys in rock bands paint their eyes and exude camp,” he told Attitude. “I say ‘God bless ’em!’”

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Old Jul 30, 2006, 06:20 PM   #2
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I'm sorry, but none of the music by the Beatles is gay. I think that article is the gayest thing I've ever read!!

Disclaimer: Before anyone starts to blast me, I'm not anti-gay. I just happen to strongly disagree with this article and it's author.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 03:03 AM   #3
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I don't get it.

What's so gay about "Please Please Me?"
I suggest tho that the Fabs wrote some
songs that everyone can identify with.
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 03:07 AM   #4
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Well the way I see it is, the fact that girls in the audience were screaming out loving the beatles when Paul sang songs such as "I saw her standing there" from please please me it might show that it can't be gay for some reason!! Inless all the girls screaming in the audience were secretly men in disguise!!
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 03:40 AM   #5
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Well, Ringo was singing about Boys...
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 03:45 AM   #6
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Seriously though, it may have been a sort of gay soundtrack at the time, but it was everybody's soundtrack.
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 05:51 AM   #7
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George and Paul singing into one microphone, their cheeks touching, was the gayest thing we’d ever seen.”
that isnt necessarily gay....that is just HOT :)
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 06:00 AM   #8
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This reminds me of various countries claims to have all invented the automobile, the airplane, and other great things, despite alternate histories in other countries. Kind of a little hiccup from '64 or whenever 'till now, though. Must be a time warp.
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 07:28 AM   #9
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that isnt necessarily gay....that is just HOT :)
Exactly you see! Girls like the way they acted on stage like that in their early years so it can hardly be called gay!
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Exactly you see! Girls like the way they acted on stage like that in their early years so it can hardly be called gay!
Dead on.
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As far as the cheeks touching thing, didn't other bands at the time do this also? As far as I understand it, this particular Beatles singing style was necessitated by the stage micropones of the time. You had to be in front of them for the sound to pick up. This was unlike studio mikes which picked up the sound in sort of a figure-8 pattern to both sides of the mike.
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Hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha!
This is the most ludicrous thing I've read.

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Hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha!
This is the most ludicrous thing I've read.

Exactly!!
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this article is NOT questioning the lads' sexual orientation, nor is the author of the article. read it again. one album by the lads made it in the rankings---along with other performers' albums---of a gay lifestyle magazine.
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Hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha!
This is the most ludicrous thing I've read.

Journalism in its' worst form. Misleading headline used to hook otherwise unintrested readers, I say. I think I shall complain.
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this article is NOT questioning the lads' sexual orientation, nor is the author of the article. read it again. one album by the lads made it in the rankings---along with other performers' albums---of a gay lifestyle magazine.
I know it's not, but lines such as... "George and Paul singing into one microphone, their cheeks touching, was the gayest thing we’d ever seen.”

Are just laughable.
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so that explains those sgt pepper outfits...
Maybe nice leather!!
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How is music gay or straight? Isn't it appealing to most folks, (regardless of sexual orientation) or unappealing to most folks (regardless of sexual orientation)?
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As far as the cheeks touching thing, didn't other bands at the time do this also? As far as I understand it, this particular Beatles singing style was necessitated by the stage micropones of the time. You had to be in front of them for the sound to pick up. This was unlike studio mikes which picked up the sound in sort of a figure-8 pattern to both sides of the mike.
I think it has to do with how much the musicians like touching cheeks.
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