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Old Jan 29, 2007, 12:55 PM   #1
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On A Beatles Forum Some People Say: Sgt Pepper Is Overated
Thats Because They Have Moustaches And Facial Hair. Weird People Sgt Pepper Is A Great Song And Record And Album!
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Old Jan 29, 2007, 01:58 PM   #2
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Well, I could agree with that. It's overrated because it's probably one of their most famous albums/album covers, and probably the most parodied and what not. But, I do feel some songs off Pepper are infact underrated.
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Old Jan 29, 2007, 02:35 PM   #3
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I believe that Sgt. Pepper deserves all the praise it gets. It's considered to be one of the best - if not the absolute best - albums of all time, and I can't say that I disagree. I think it's thorougly amazing. However, I DO have other close, CLOSE favorite Beatles albums. For example, I think Abbey Road is JUST as good as Sgt. Pepper.
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Old Jan 29, 2007, 04:43 PM   #4
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I do take the point that it might be overrated, largely because it was an "event" rather than an album. Certainly Sgt. Pepper's songs are generally not as strong as Revolver's but "A Day in the Life" and "She's Leaving Home" are two of the finest Beatles songs and the album remains in my top four.
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Old Jan 29, 2007, 05:08 PM   #5
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that's true. i think that in terms of the cultural and musical impact that it had, you can't overrate sgt. pepper. it basically started the psychedelia movement, or at the very least increased it greatly.
however, i do think that purely in terms of songs, rubber soul and revolver are stronger.
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 09:13 AM   #6
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I think it's the best lp ever. But in trying to say it in different ways, it does lead to over-hype. Whether it's over-rated or not, it would be hard to find a single work that had as big an influence.
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 04:58 PM   #7
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Nothing ever matched the musical textures created here, not even the Beatles.
Well, maybe Abbey Road came close.

As for the songs, I could do without Good Morning but it has those cool animal sounds.

Would Jimi Hendrix copy Sgt Pepper if it wasn't good? Groundbreaking in style and content.

With a Litttle Help and She's Leaving Home are lyrically and melodically classic in nature yet also unlike any other song before them in a class by themselves, not unlike many Beatle songs.

the poetry of Lucy In The Sky is undeniable, and the instrumental sounds of those guitars in Getting Better are the best although the lyrics might be a throwaway.

Mister Kite is also poetic and musically classic and innovative at the same time. whoever heard of a waltz in rock and roll before?

Fixing a Hole is musically and lyrically innovative cool. (A Beatle band I used to be in went into a local studio a few years ago and when we started rehearsing Fixing A Hole the 2 surfer dudes who ran the place looked at each other and said, ( "Dude, they do fixing a Hole!" ) true story.

Within You Without You has charm although I never considered it a Beatle song sorry George fans :)

When I'm 64 I must admit sounded lame when it came out and I was a young kid too cool to like a song like that but it's a perfectly crafted and sounding song that you must admit is quite catchy.

Lovely rita just won't leave you alone it's a song full of energy color and musical passages that are still fresh. And what a great ending.

And doing a reprise of the title song is a stroke of genius that ties the whole album together and what more can be said about A Day In The Life that hasn't been said already. I wish I was witness to the recording of A Day In The Life.
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Old Feb 05, 2007, 11:21 AM   #8
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Even Rubber Soul has better songs than Sgt Pepper, but when you contextualize the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and analyse its cultural impact you'll realize its overall value.

Inside the Beatles catalogue, yes, it is over-rated but as a rock album it well deserves its place.
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Old Feb 11, 2007, 07:38 AM   #9
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Bad Little Kid: I agree! I think maybe compared to other beatles albums it's a little overrated, but not compared to all the rock albums out there
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Old Feb 11, 2007, 11:04 AM   #10
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I have to consider, when thinking of Sgt. Pepper, the context of when it appeared. Summer, 1967, sometimes called the Summer of Love. Lots of civil strife; the southern U.S and L.A. in turmoil. Ever seen Montery Pop Festival, filmed in '67 a little after SPLHCB was released? Hippydom in full flower, LSD was almost a weekend ritual for many people. Vietnam, flowerpower, sexual freedom, the whole period was like stepping through the looking glass. BUT, everywhere one went, myself included, SPLHCB was the thread that held the whole montage together. Radio was ubiquitious, and believe me, it was a more limited venue back then. Sgt. Pepper was the back-drop to that summer, and I heard it playing almost everywhere I went. Overrated? Compared to what?
Ttal, Hendrix never copied anyone, no offence. What could you possibly mean by "copy"? This is asked with respect, you understand.
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Old Feb 11, 2007, 11:19 AM   #11
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I think what was meant was simply that Hendrix famously performed Sgt. Pepper's title track—live— on the day it was released. It wasn't a "copy" in the wannabe sense, but a tribute.

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Old Feb 11, 2007, 04:02 PM   #12
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Hello;

Pepper happens to be my favorite album of all time Beatles or not.It is in my mind unbeatable.It just has so many things going on throughout the album.

One of my favorite under rated moments on the album is when the heavy Within You Without ends and then the bouncy tuneful When I'm Sixty Four comes in right after.

The effect is like being in a scorching hot desert while listening to Within You and then someone coming along and throwing a cold pail of water in your face when Sixty Four comes on.In my opinion it's the greatest song segue in the history of rock and roll.

Does anyone know where I can obtain a copy of this album by the band Big Daddy and is it any good?

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I think what was meant was simply that Hendrix famously performed Sgt. Pepper's title track—live— on the day it was released. It wasn't a "copy" in the wannabe sense, but a tribute.

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yes, thanks.
that's exactly what I was refering to.
Jimi did it his own way of course and didn't copy per say but played a cover of the title song by hearing a pre-released album and being blown away by it like everyone else.
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Old Feb 21, 2007, 07:32 PM   #14
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and here it is!
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Old Feb 21, 2007, 07:53 PM   #15
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There is just so much going on in the Pepper album, horns, harp, animal sounds, fuzzy guitar, Billy Shears, the orchestra crescendo, crashing piano chord, the dream sequence, lyrical integrity, it's hard for me to say it's overrated or anything like that.
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and here it is!
Thanks for the link Jtal. Jimi's version is great, do you have a more complete version and one in slightly better quality. One with at least a bit rate of 128 kbps instead of 112?

We had many discusions on this in the past, I just want to say I agree with beatles_gal. You can't ignore the impact the album had, however when you look at the songs I really don't think it's the best Beatles album.
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however, i do think that purely in terms of songs, rubber soul and revolver are stronger.
Yes this is an interesting point. Perhaps one should note that stronger is a relative and subjective term here. But without putting too sharp a point on it, Rubber Soul and Revolver are more like mystical crap shoots, and Pepper puts it all together. Both albums are considered to be precursors to the Pepper phenomenon.

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Thanks for the link Jtal. Jimi's version is great, do you have a more complete version and one in slightly better quality. One with at least a bit rate of 128 kbps instead of 112?
A friend just happened to send this to me a few days ago out of nowhere.
that's it.
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Back to the discussion, and to sum up what I was trying to say in my description of the album, it's subjective of course but although there may be as a collection better songs on another album, this album does have some of their most outstanding tunes and like mentioned by some of the posts there is no denying the record's influence at the time.

so to me, not overrated and a benchmark/milestone in popular music.
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Back to the discussion, and to sum up what I was trying to say in my description of the album, it's subjective of course but although there may be as a collection better songs on another album, this album does have some of their most outstanding tunes and like mentioned by some of the posts there is no denying the record's influence at the time.

so to me, not overrated and a benchmark/milestone in popular music.
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