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I think he's playing there again tonite!
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Mar 22, 2009, 01:01 PM
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He got 3 dates in Sweden this time, however, the first concert was in a intimate, very nice night club, a perfect setting for him, I think. The next concert is at Globen, that seats about 4-5,000 or so. Then he's off to NORWAY! (Hey mari!) and then supposedly he comes back here afterwards. Still, money's too tight to mention regardless of where he plays! 
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Mar 22, 2009, 01:02 PM
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No new songs from the forthcoming album tonite but no surprise there. Roll on 2nd May!!!
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Mar 22, 2009, 01:17 PM
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Balls!!!! The lists a fake, some loser with too much time on his hands..... 
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Mar 22, 2009, 01:28 PM
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Well, the concert's tonight and I doubt it's over yet so a bit early to be able to publish the set list!
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Mar 23, 2009, 02:33 AM
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Dylan's setlist for Stockholm (Berns), March 22, 09
Here's the setlist. Nothing new, as you can see.
Most likely you go your way (And I'll go mine)
Señor (Tales of Yankee power)
I'll be your baby tonight
Stuck inside of mobile with the Memphis blues again
Tryin' to get to heaven
Things have changed
Watching the river flow
Blind Willie McTell
I believe in you
I don't believe you (She acts like we never have met)
Honest with me
Summer days
All along the watchtower
Like a rolling stone
Forever young
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Mar 23, 2009, 02:45 AM
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Quote:
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He got 3 dates in Sweden this time, however, the first concert was in a intimate, very nice night club, a perfect setting for him, I think.
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I would LOVE to see him like that!
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Then he's off to NORWAY! (Hey mari!)
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Hey BOBBY!
Yeah, Oslo though!  He came to my city last year  I passed his hotel and went "squeeeeeee" 
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Mar 23, 2009, 02:48 AM
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I saw him here in sunny Rotteram in October 2005
Forrest Gump: ‘Life is a Bob Dylan Concert, you never know what you gonna get’.
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Mar 23, 2009, 07:17 AM
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Here's the setlist. Nothing new, as you can see.
Most likely you go your way (And I'll go mine)
Señor (Tales of Yankee power)
I'll be your baby tonight
Stuck inside of mobile with the Memphis blues again
Tryin' to get to heaven
Things have changed
Watching the river flow
Blind Willie McTell
I believe in you
I don't believe you (She acts like we never have met)
Honest with me
Summer days
All along the watchtower
Like a rolling stone
Forever young
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You missed this little gem from the setlist, Billy from the soundtrack album Billy The Kid, not sure if its EVER been done live!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFaxBLh28sU
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Mar 26, 2009, 06:03 AM
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Dylan Stockholm (Globen) March 23, 2009
Well, you know Gnome, I'm not at all up on live Dylan.  Anyway, here's the setlist from his second Swedish concert:
Rainy Day Women # 12 & 35
Lay, Lady, Lay
Tangled Up In Blue
Chimes Of Freedom
High Water (For Charlie Patton)
Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again
Love Sick
Desolation Row
Rollin’ And Tumblin’
Make You Feel My Love
Highway 61 Revisited
One More Cup Of Coffee (Valley Below)
Thunder On The Mountain
Like A Rolling Stone
All Along The Watchtower
Spirit On The Water
Blowin' In The Wind
According to the reviewer Bob's voice was surprisingly strong that evening. As to the arrangements, Blowin' In The Wind is played as soul number, Spirit On The Water as jazz and the rarity is One More Cup Of Coffee. Not sure he's got that last thing right. 11,041 in attendance.
He's scheduled for Jönköping this Friday 27th and Malmö on Saturday 28th.
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Mar 30, 2009, 07:10 AM
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"Beyond Here Lies Nothin'" is available as a free download from bobdylan.com!
It is a terrific song, really, almost latin-flavoured, but still with the 12-bar dynamic. Looking forward for Together through Life!
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Mar 30, 2009, 07:22 AM
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I got mine
Thanks for the heads-up DH! I just went and downloaded mine.
For others interested, just go to the main home page of Dylan's site as it's now a huge blue download button. You absolutely can't miss it!  Note though that you need to unzip the file before you can play it.
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Apr 08, 2009, 12:50 PM
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ARGH!! I missed this as my computer was down!
Heres another from the new album , I Feel A Change Comin' On
http://sz-magazin.sueddeutsche.de/texte/anzeigen/28859
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Apr 16, 2009, 06:27 AM
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Apr 16, 2009, 07:00 AM
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Thanks for posting, Gnome!
Should've said, really liked this version of Stuck Inside Mobile, wonderful vibes!
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Apr 17, 2009, 01:00 AM
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Quote:
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"Beyond Here Lies Nothin'" is available as a free download from bobdylan.com!
It is a terrific song, really, almost latin-flavoured, but still with the 12-bar dynamic. Looking forward for Together through Life!
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Oh my you posted and I missed it :) come back soon
this vid is cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5pOh...eature=related
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this vid is cool
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Nice one 
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Apr 17, 2009, 01:21 AM
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/m...up-in-Bob.html
In a recent interview with critic Bill Flanagan, Bob Dylan makes a point of associating his songs with "truth". Discussing a track from his 33rd studio album Together Through Life – released later this month – he points out that there's no "character" behind the voice of the song. "He's not a bus driver. He doesn't drive a forklift. He's not a serial killer. It's me who's singing that, plain and simple. We shouldn't confuse singers and performers with actors… the more you act the further you get away from the truth. And a lot of those singers lose who they are after a while. Sing, 'I'm a lineman for the county,' enough times and you start to scamper up poles."
And yet Robert Allen Zimmerman is acting much of the time, isn't he? "Bob Dylan" is a freewheeling character invented by the boy from Hibbing, Minnesota, inspired by the intelligent, highly literate singer-songwriter Woody Guthrie who assumed the performance persona of a ''dumb Okie'' the better to put his songs across. Zimmerman even talks about ''Dylan'' in the third person. Yet he has also made repeated claims that his lyrics are autobiographical. "I am my words," he said in 1964. In 1990 he went further, acknowledging: "People can learn everything about me through my songs, if they know where to look. They can juxtapose them with certain other songs and draw a clear picture."
Such claims are a red rag to the many Dylan fans who would analyse, categorise, dissect and inspect his lyrics. If Dylan is the ultimate rock-and-roll prophet, then his disciples are always seeking a greater understanding of the man through his sacred texts. But if they're going to attempt any sort of interpretation, says leading Dylanologist Clinton Heylin, then the songs – so long mired in myth and misinformation – need to be treated like historical documents.
Heylin has spent decades corralling the facts surrounding every song Dylan has written. The first of his exhaustive two-volume guide to Dylan's output, Revolution in the Air, is published this month. In it he recounts the stories behind the 300 songs written from 1957-1973, so that, he says, "if you want to come up with a theory, at least you can base it on a song's factual history and not just on some abstract subjective idea you develop on a wet Wednesday in Huddersfield".
Working out which love songs are inspired by which love affairs is a favourite pastime of many rock fans and Heylin does some smart detective work finding the connections (or proving the lack of them) between Dylan's women and his songs. We see him wrestling with his feelings for bohemian artist Suze Rotolo (the girl clinging to Dylan's arm in the snow on the sleeve of The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan) in Tomorrow is a Long Time and Don't Think Twice. Although Joan Baez has claimed that Mama, You Been On My Mind and Visions of Johanna were written about her, Heylin argues otherwise (although he does think Oh, Sister was).
He also stresses the importance of performance tone – an issue often ignored by those who like to examine the lyrics on the page like pinned butterflies. The angry lines of Idiot Wind ("You're an idiot babe / It's a wonder you still know how to breathe") were sung "full of bile in 1976 when his [first] wife [former Playboy bunny Sara Lownds] was on the verge of divorcing him and sat three feet away. But when he played it again in 1992 it was an incredibly remorseful performance, racked by years of experience. So there are most of the same words, and exactly the same tune being sung by the same guy, but they're two very different songs".
"One of the odd things about Dylan," says Heylin, "is that here's a guy who ended up marrying two different women in the Eighties [Dylan is believed to have secretly wed backing singer Clydie King and Broadway star Carolyn Dennis although he has only ever publicly acknowledged the marriage to Lownds] and it's almost impossible to find any songs written about them. They were having his children… where are the songs, Bob? I mean there are a lot of songs about capricious women in the Eighties but they don't seem to relate to anyone specific." His children also seem to be absent from the lyrics.
Heylin argues that the 1965-1966 songs were "full of transvestism", making a case for Queen Jane Approximately being about Andy Warhol – lines like "When… you're tired of yourself and all your creations" certainly have a ring of the pop artist about them and Dylan was definitely mingling with Warhol's set at the time. Although a paranoid Brian Jones feared that he was the "Mr Jones" being targeted in the sneering Ballad of a Thin Man, Heylin dismisses that fear, although he does root out the playful references to the Rolling Stone in I Want You.
Solving these little references is part of the fun of Heylin's work. In his previous book on, Sgt Pepper, he revealed how when Dylan first met the Beatles he grilled them over the line "I get high" in the song I Wanna Hold Your Hand, only for him to discover the lyric was really "I can't hide". The story proves particularly neat as Dylan then introduced the Liverpool lads to drugs, and they then popped the line "I get high with a little help from my friends" onto the Sgt Pepper album as a nod to Dylan. Meantime, while many have long believed Dylan's Mr Tambourine Man to be about the artist's experiences on LSD, Heylin proves the song was written two months before Dylan first tried it.
Elsewhere, Heylin shows Dylan's very loose relationship with the truth. We see how his powerful civil rights song, The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll (about the brutal murder of a black waitress by a wealthy, white tobacco farm owner) was based entirely on an inaccurate newspaper report. Dylan was lucky not to have been sued (as he was later for misrepresenting the facts surrounding his song Hurricane). Carroll, who had suffered for many years from high blood pressure and a serious weight problem, actually died of a heart attack.
Even when Dylan sang about not knowing the truth, as in Blowin' in the Wind, people assumed nobody would ask questions like, "How many roads must a man walk down before you can call him a man?" without knowing the answers. "It clearly was a shock to him," says Heylin. "The first performance we have on tape of him performing the song, you can already hear him distancing himself from it because he's already getting flak – people are asking what he means. And he's having to say 'I don't know'."
No matter how much historical context we give Dylan's songs, we can never have a full set of keys to either the art or the many-layered man behind them. And isn't that part of the appeal? Dylan himself has always been a playful artist, delighting in appalling the folk faithful by ''going electric'' in 1965 and, recently, rattling the heritage rock cage by appearing in a television commercial for lingerie chain Victoria's Secret. His lyrics reveal above all a mercurial, ludic man who uses the archetypal characters from a whole range of mythologies to tell great yarns with great sounds, packed (at their best) with profundities and ambiguities that are beyond any ''locked down'' interpretation.
Heylin will follow the publication of Revolution in the Air with So Long as Men Can Breathe, an attempt to unravel the story behind Shakespeare's sonnets and establish whether the 1609 edition of the poems was authorised by the Bard, or a 17th-century bootleg. His aim is to show that if Shakespeare didn't order the sonnets then it's less likely any story featuring a fair youth and dark lady can be spun from their chronology. And if we stop looking for such autobiographical ''solutions'' we can get back to enjoying and exploring the poems for themselves again.
Isn't this also how Dylan would like us to enjoy his songs? Bruce Springsteen famously said that Dylan freed the mind as Elvis had freed the body. And when it comes to artistic output of Robert Zimmerman – from the Hibbing juvenilia to his new album – I think he'd rather we put down the books, played the records and let the mind drift. Leaving those "answers" blowin' in the wind.
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Everything about Bob
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Yet he has also made repeated claims that his lyrics are autobiographical. "I am my words," he said in 1964. In 1990 he went further, acknowledging: "People can learn everything about me through my songs, if they know where to look. They can juxtapose them with certain other songs and draw a clear picture."
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This is a misinterpretation. Everything important to Bob, as for all artists, isn't the dry facts of his life but the inner person. So to talk about, as this author does, "Dylan's very loose relationship with the truth" is rather silly. Dali and Picasso are also visible in their art but if you think that Dali's life was a series of melting clocks or that Picasso was a real square, well, you're missing the point, big time.
I'm sure it's interesting to read about events in Dylan's personal life, while he wrote this or that song, but don't expect to have a word picture of those experiences. Asking "They were having his children… where are the songs, Bob?" is to attach way too much literal meaning to the lyrics. Bob's songs are filled with his inner life and it doesn't really matter who the person in the lyrics is, Mr Tambourine Man or somebody else, but what happens in his soul. And there, I'd say, you'll find everything that is Bob Dylan.
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