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Old Apr 26, 2007, 02:24 PM   #61
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Hi! I also think that the word HATE is a strong one.I believe,now this is my own opinion,but I believe there are some of those out there who think it was Ringo himself that got Pete Best out of the group.We all know this is not the case!I think he's exactly what the press said he was when they first performed as a group.He symbolizes the "heart" of the group.He keeps a very low profile,and keeps his family business exactly that.People are inherently curious,and want to know everything.This alienates people too.I saw a quote once quite recently,something to the effect that(I'm paraphrasing now)"I'm not a musician,I'm a celebrity!" At the opening of the "love" in Las Vegas,he was the only one bouncing up and down in his seat like a little kid;he was enjoying the whole experience! Thanks for listening! pixie
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 10:25 AM   #62
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Hmm. I do not hate Ringo of course, but I'll try to shed light on this question because I do know people who value him less than the other members of the group.

For instance, my very good friend likes The Beatles all right, but he's a drummer. And he tends to look at Ringo and say things like "He wasn't all that great of a drummer." Because he's into flashy drumming and upfront talent, something that is touted a lot in today's drumming. But if the quality of your music depends on a steady rock 'n roll beat, or a good backbeat, then Ringo was perfect for The Beatles.

A lot of times I look at it this way (not to be offensive to any of our boys): John and Paul often competed for the spotlight, or took it together. George had a lot of obvious musical talent. Ringo didn't want to compete for the spotlight or show off his talent, so in terms of popularity, he was kind of shuffled to the back by media and all that.

But that doesn't by any means make Ringo a less awesome Beatle! We all know the truth, that each of them were 1/4 of the whole and each one was necessary for its existence.
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Old May 01, 2007, 01:19 PM   #63
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I don't know, but I don't agree with it. Once I knew a boy in a Message board who posted a thread named "Ringo, the stupid big nosed" and we all were against that. Some people says that the reason is that he wasn't as talented as the others.
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Old May 01, 2007, 06:02 PM   #64
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i don't think ringo was less talented than the other 3. he just didn't have the incredible creative energy and innovation that the other 3 did. john, paul, and george came up with these incredible musical ideas and ringo provided them with drumming that wasn't revolutionary but was still very good.
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Old May 01, 2007, 06:21 PM   #65
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That's ridiculous.

I have never heard of anyone who hates our little Starkey man.
So sweet, witty, good-natured, pleasant and likeable.
Even Brian, after a little bit of initial misgiving, grew quite fond of him and called him "the heart of the Beatles."

Hate Ringo? That is the lamest damn thing I've ever heard of.
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Old May 01, 2007, 09:51 PM   #66
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That's ridiculous.

I have never heard of anyone who hates our little Starkey man.
So sweet, witty, good-natured, pleasant and likeable.
Even Brian, after a little bit of initial misgiving, grew quite fond of him and called him "the heart of the Beatles."

Hate Ringo? That is the lamest damn thing I've ever heard of.
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Well said, Eppster. Who in the blue hell hates Ringo and why?

George said something to the effect of that without Ringo, the Beatles would not have existed and it would be like driving a car with three wheels.

Without Ringo, there never would have been any Beatles (those 4 had the right mix) and it would be like Chrysler/DaimlerChrysler without Dodge!
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Old May 01, 2007, 10:14 PM   #67
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Well, to those who think that Ringo haters don't exist.....they do. I disagree with them, of course, but they exist. In fact, I had a discussion with one tonight (he happens to be my friend).

What I got out of him was that he thought Ringo was a mediocre drummer with an even worse voice. My friend also felt that Ringo wasn't anywhere near as good as the other three Beatles, and my friend felt that Ringo should have tried harder because my friend felt that John and Paul were, overall, crankin' out the hits with George learning and doing so along the way.

That's basically the typical argument I've heard (against Ringo, I mean).
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Rube, does your friend even like the Beatles?

George may not have written as many songs as John and Paul during the Beatle years, but he wrote some of the most serious songs in creation. I mean, songs like "I Want to Tell You;" "Taxman;" "Here Comes the Sun" just to name three. His nonpareil lyrics are not to be taken lightly! How much does your friend know about each Beatle; his work and the Beatles as a group in general?
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Old May 02, 2007, 07:16 AM   #69
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Default Christine rambles on again ~ this time for our Starkey man

The Beatles could never have become the phenomenon that they were without Ringo. While the other three were a virtual powerhouse, buzzing away a mile a minute, Ringo kept them tethered to Mother Earth ~ he was "Everyman," he balanced out the hyper frenetic energy and gave them solid ground... Richie was the Beatle that we ALL could identify with.

The Beatles were much, much more than just their music. If there were no Ringo, perhaps they would still have been the most innovative and inventive band that ever existed ~ but never the phenomenon they became.

America, perennial lover of the underdog, latched onto Ringo as the Beatles' "symbol" and that symbol kicked them from greatness to overdrive to Beatlemania.

From ~ http://www.westcoastdrums.com/ringo.html
Ringo contributed many interesting quotes to the Beatles repertoire, some of which became song titles. "Eight Day's A Week" was written after one of Ringo's expressions. The Beatles' first movie, originally called Beatlemania, was instead called A Hard Day's Night after something Ringo said one evening after a particularly grueling session.

Because he seemed content to sit at the back, Ringo was sometimes considered to be the least important Beatle. He was not one of the main writers, nor was he a strong vocalist. Ringo was only given one song per album, but in my opinion Ringo used this valuable space well. Ringo became an integral part of The Beatles. Not only did his inventive drumming help provide The Beatles distinctive sound, but he fulfilled other very real needs. Ringo was the most down-to-earth member of the Fab Four. Ringo was the friendly Beatle. He recieved more fan mail than any of the others, and he became the mediator in many of the later arguments of the band.

The Beatles benefited from his sensitivity, his sense of humor, and his "peace and love" way of dealing with the world. His modesty and kind heart was as important to the Beatles as John and Paul's musical talents. Ringo always seemed a bit overwhelmed by the success of the Beatles -- as if he were pleasantly surprised by what was happening to him. Ringo really looked upon John, Paul, and George as his three brothers and continues to love them as such today. He gave of himself to them the best that he could with love and without ego. Ringo had his most important dreams come true with the Beatles. The only dream Ringo never fulfilled was to sit in the audience at a Beatles concert.
In defense of Ringo, a collection of GREAT quotes from those who are indeed in the know... as opposed to the comparative ignorance of our own friends who think they know it all:
http://web2.airmail.net/gshultz/personal.html

By the way, I'm accustomed to defending Brian's vital indispensibility to the Beatle legacy right to the end. I never thought I'd be doing the same for one of his Boys themselves. That's crazy.

Every person in the Beatle story played a necessary, vital part, and without any one of them, ANY one of them, the miracle would never have come together and endured for over 40 years (and, I feel, will forever).

Good heavens. I don't want to hear any more of this nonsense about anybody "hating" little Ringo. Ludicrous!
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Seriously, how could anyone ever hate our sunny, funny, lovely Ringo?!? Even if someone doesn't like his singing voice, his songs or his drumming, you still couldn't dislike Ringo in my opinion. He's just so loveable!
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i don't think ringo was less talented than the other 3.
Me neighter, but unfortunately, there's some people who says so
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Well said, Eppster. Who in the blue hell hates Ringo and why?

George said something to the effect of that without Ringo, the Beatles would not have existed and it would be like driving a car with three wheels.

Without Ringo, there never would have been any Beatles (those 4 had the right mix) and it would be like Chrysler/DaimlerChrysler without Dodge!
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Rube, does your friend even like the Beatles?

George may not have written as many songs as John and Paul during the Beatle years, but he wrote some of the most serious songs in creation. I mean, songs like "I Want to Tell You;" "Taxman;" "Here Comes the Sun" just to name three. His nonpareil lyrics are not to be taken lightly! How much does your friend know about each Beatle; his work and the Beatles as a group in general?
Yeah, my friend loves the Beatles... He's not as obsessed as I am, but he knows more than the average fan, I'd say. He loves George, by the way... George is his second favorite Beatle.
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Who's his favorite? I'm a Harrison-McCartney fan myself. My favorites are Harrison & McCartney.
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I think we're all trying to argue why Ringo is so great. But we all already know that. =D

But there are people out there who don't think so, and the topic of this thread (at least to my understanding) is wondering what their point of view could be. Ringo-haters do exist, and it's silly to deny their existence. Even people who like Beatles music could dislike the drumming. It's possible.

Surely though, all of us here know why Ringo rocks. ;)
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who hates ringo? i want names! ( )
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I like George.

"I like nachos. I like frozen yogurt."

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It still blows my mind to see the words "hate" and "Ringo" in the same sentence!
OMG, someone like that has got to be either totally ignorant of our sweet Starkey's personality... or a real nazi!

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Yes thats nice but we're talking about Ringo.
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"I like nachos. I like frozen yogurt."

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It still blows my mind to see the words "hate" and "Ringo" in the same sentence!
OMG, someone like that has got to be either totally ignorant of our sweet Starkey's personality... or a real nazi!

I can make a sentence using "hate" and "Ringo":


I HATE people who HATE RINGO Starr.
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