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Old Jul 26, 2006, 02:43 PM   #81
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Well maybe he hurt her too, nobody knows what really happened, maybe they hurt each other, they are only human.
You've a right to your opinion,Sadie, but I think that judging from Heather's track record and judging from Heather's track record it's pretty easy to tell which one is a person of character and which is not. That's why I'm siding with him on this whole thing.
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Maybe you are right but all i am saying is (and this is my own opinion posted a discussion forum), is that I don't think we should all speculate on things we have only read in the papers, I just feel that nobody knows what really happened, if she did lie to him or not, if she is after his money or not, the fact is the marriage broke down, end of story.

I am not saying you cannot post opposing opinions, these are just mine.
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I just feel that nobody knows what really happened, if she did lie to him or not, if she is after his money or not, the fact is the marriage broke down, end of story.
...which is sad enough for both.

I think I´ve been saying way too much about Heather anyway, I answered Lynner via PM about some of my intentions, and, Heather, if you read this: I don´t know you and therefore shouldn´t judge about you. I´m wrong, and I´m only human - as you are.
I hope we both learn from our mistakes.
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Yeah you're right Loka, it is sad, lets just hope both come through pretty much intact, even more so Bea.
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You know what I always think? When you are imbedded (uhm, stupid word) in the McCartney family, it´s the best that can happen to you. I mean Mary´s divorce, Linda´s death...they all dealt with it together, and they will support Bea too. So I hope all the best for her, and I hope that it was just the tabloids saying that Heather doesn´t want Stella and Bea to ever meet again.
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Macca: 'Heather's so rude'

Battle ... Heather and Sir Paul

By JULIE MOULT

TORMENTED Sir Paul McCartney has filed for divorce from Heather Mills — sparking a bitter £200million legal battle.

Macca has cited the ex-model’s “unreasonable behaviour” for the end of their four-year marriage.

But furious Heather, 38 — dubbed Lady Mucca over her porn pictures shame — has vowed to go to war with the ex-Beatle, 64, by filing counter claims.

Sir Paul’s papers allege she was “rude” to Macca’s loyal staff and “argumentative”.

Pals of Heather say she is livid at the accusations and will be putting her side of the story in legal papers in the UK and United States.

Macca — worth £825million — has hired lawyer Fiona Shackleton, who represented Prince Charles in his divorce from Diana.

He was hoping for a civilised split despite the couple NOT signing a pre-nuptial agreement to safeguard his pop fortune.

Macca — furious details have leaked out — is desperate to keep things cordial for the sake of the couple’s two-year-old daughter Beatrice.

A source close to the family said: “Paul wanted a clean break for the sake of Beatrice.

Band on the run ... Macca was spotted
yesterday not wearing his wedding ring

“He was determined these details would remain private and he’s very disappointed that somebody in a position of trust has revealed all.”
Just yesterday Macca appeared to finally be putting his marriage behind him — after splitting in May.

He was pictured for the first time without a wedding ring in public at a graduation ceremony of his Liverpool Institute of Performing Arts.

And he also appeared to have ditched dyeing his hair.

Heather was rumoured to have been behind the chestnut brown transformation of his greying locks.

Last month The Sun exposed Heather’s seedy porno past. She posed naked and covered in oil for a German “sex manual”.

One shot shows her performing a sex act on a nude male porn star. The man is then photographed performing an act on her with a sex toy.

The porn shoot was published in 1988 — five years before the blonde became famous after losing her leg when hit by a police motorbike.

Heather, a campaigner against land mines and fur, could claim up to £200million in the divorce.

A spokeswoman for her said yesterday: “Heather’s going to be filing her own counter claims about matters both in this country and America. Any views she has on her divorce will be handled discretely.

“She does not feel the need to repudiate claims that she may be headstrong or feisty. She is hugely disappointed that matters of such a confidential nature should be aired in public and feels it is inappropriate to speak about such matters with a child involved.”

Lawyers will try to battle out a deal once Heather has filed her grounds for divorce.But the matter could take up to a year if it goes to court.
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Well, good for Paul for moving on. I have to say, the most thrilling thing about that article: him hopefully not dying his hair anymore!! I have really missed his little flecks of grey.
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I don't why there is still discussion on defending HM. There is a divorce happening. The woman has been found to have made not only at least one porn or soft core porn tape and two raunchy sex manual books....her husband, whose previous marriage lasted close to 30 years, is taking a major step in divorcing the individual being discussed, HM. Her volunteerism has largely reduced over the past several years down to an occcasional showing up at a benefit dinner, as opposed to really working in the field, hands-on. Or the work was conducted on the occasional talk-show where her bombastic, patronizing stances alienated more people than they converted. This is a person who just can't listen deeply to wise advice being given to her, clearly. The continued defense of this person just seems to be denial, at least to me. That is my humble opinion anyway. She will survive though, she is tough as nails.

The divorce action Paul is taking says it all. A man for whom divorce is probably his biggest disappointment is divorcing. It all must have been pretty bad for him to take that step. For pride reasons alone, I can imagine Paul would have hung in but clearly it became an untenable marriage for him. End of story.

On a lighter note: I too agree erin that Paul never looked more handsome than when he allowed his hair to be salt and pepper -- i.e. when he got his knighthood for example. Hopefully the make-over he thought he needed to look attractive to someone who claims she did not know who he was nor who the Beatles were may lead to some real liberation and self-acceptance.
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Oh, this is going to get nasty...
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Old Jul 30, 2006, 06:57 PM   #90
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I don't why there is still discussion on defending HM. There is a divorce happening. The woman has been found to have made not only at least one porn or soft core porn tape and two raunchy sex manual books....her husband, whose previous marriage lasted close to 30 years, is taking a major step in divorcing the individual being discussed, HM. Her volunteerism has largely reduced over the past several years down to an occcasional showing up at a benefit dinner, as opposed to really working in the field, hands-on. Or the work was conducted on the occasional talk-show where her bombastic, patronizing stances alienated more people than they converted. This is a person who just can't listen deeply to wise advice being given to her, clearly. The continued defense of this person just seems to be denial, at least to me. That is my humble opinion anyway. She will survive though, she is tough as nails.

The divorce action Paul is taking says it all. A man for whom divorce is probably his biggest disappointment is divorcing. It all must have been pretty bad for him to take that step. For pride reasons alone, I can imagine Paul would have hung in but clearly it became an untenable marriage for him. End of story.

On a lighter note: I too agree erin that Paul never looked more handsome than when he allowed his hair to be salt and pepper -- i.e. when he got his knighthood for example. Hopefully the make-over he thought he needed to look attractive to someone who claims she did not know who he was nor who the Beatles were may lead to some real liberation and self-acceptance.
I know that Paul will move on and do well. I think he overall does a good job at knowing who he is, and I hope he realizes what a true treasure he is to this world.

As for Heather, this whole episode really has saddened me. I don't defend her and will not given how much pain she has caused to a man that means somuch to me. Still, I think that she has incredible potential. I hope she finds a way to move on and to learn from all of this. I think she truly is a beautiful person with some exceptional qualities. I hope she can find a way of working through her many issues and moving on in life in a positive manner. Having said that, if any of these rumors I keep hearing about her coming out with nasty details about Paul are true, she will have lost the last single ounce of respect that I (and I suspect many others) have for her. I hope that she chooses now to start off on the right foot, take the high road.
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2 August 2006
HEATHER WILL NOT BE GOING QUIETLY
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THE Macca and Mills saga has now become exceptionally silly in the way divorces do when vast amounts of money, monstrous egos and buckets of bile are involved.

Now, as the Daily Mirror revealed, Macca believes Heather has reneged on a deal for a "quick and painless" split which would have left her with a pay-off of £30million.

Better, as they say where I come from - which just happens to be where she comes from - than a slap in the face with a wet fish.

If I were Heather, I'd cut my losses, remember the days I slept on the streets and count my blessings along with the cash.

But then if Paul McCartney's second wife was a meek, mild and supine woman she would still be cooking veggie sausages and rolling him joints at the Sussex farmhouse he once shared with Linda.

The new Lady McCartney was never going to offer her husband a life of peaceful contentment.

I know this because a beautiful cousin of mine dated one of Heather's former boyfriends for a while.

He discovered in a matter of weeks what it's taken Macca four years to find out. The woman he married is a complicated, driven, difficult ball-breaker and such a fantasist she can - as her ex-husband Alfie Karmal explained - barely distinguish fact from fiction.

Being "Heathered" as Chris Terrill, the fiance she jilted after McCartney came into her orbit pointed out recently, is no laughing matter.

"It was a mighty powerful spell," he says, comparing it to being like a butterfly caught in a net then "spread-eagled on a board with a sodding great pin through the thorax". One suspects that Heather must be both shocked and furious to see the McCartney butterfly fluttering wild and free, no longer besotted and with his larynx, if not his thorax, in perfect working order.

Last week he began formal divorce proceedings and drew the battle lines, describing her as argumentative"' and "rude to staff" in his petition.

Worse still, it now appears he is flirting with the idea that Heather may be a gold-digger despite his earlier protestations that she is a "generous person who spends most of her time trying to help others".

I'm not sure Heather is a gold-digger as such, but I do believe her marriage to McCartney was based more on expedience than on love or respect. She relished the title of Lady McCartney and ruthlessly used it to promote her own career.

America might have embraced her as a rags-to-riches, vegetarian amputee with a humanitarian streak, but would she have been given a chat show to host unless her name was McCartney? I don't think so.

You have to admire her chutzpah. She did all this knowing that lurking in the background were sordid rumours of a vice-girl past - which she denies - and the more solid evidence that she'd once posed naked for a porn manual.

Thinking about it, Heather must have been constantly looking over her shoulder.

Unfortunately McCartney's lawyers are no longer there to protect her reputation and at the moment she doubtless feels lonely and vulnerable. But it didn't have to be this way. Unable to accept her husband's past, she refused to recognise the importance of his previous, happy 29-year marriage.

It was always rumoured that her relationship with his children was fractious, it's now obvious from their lack of support she made herself the enemy when it would have been easier to win them over.

McCartney is a musical genius, but he's a few notes short of an octave if he believed the brash, abrasive and self-obsessed Heather would ever fill the role of perfect wife.

He's even more deluded if he thinks she'll fade quietly into oblivion. Even if his £30million offer was quadrupled it would be rejected.

Heather's security was assured when she gave him a daughter. What she now wants is a show and her stage will be a courtroom. A few weeks ago I said it would be a bumpy ride.

Correction. Make that a roller-coaster.
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sigh...at least this time the article has a name besides "a friend". I know that Heather's not the woman for Paul, but she doesn't strike me as stupid, so why she'd want to get so much ( and therefore can lose a lot more) when he's already being so generous is beyond me.
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In the divorce papers Ms. Mills filed today, she called Paul "boring."

We should all be so bored, huh? She is the walking definition of a sociopath and clinical narcissist, in my book. I am sure there will be more indiscreet stuff out of her mouth soon and we all have The Larry King Show to look forward to....amazing how a two or three time divorced woman with several broken engagements, one a few weeks before a wedding, manages to get through life without any self-reflection that perhaps she is the one with the commitment issues, the intimacy problems. Beyond me, all of this. Sad. And Paul learned a deep lesson in life too, not to rush through a mourning period, nor to dismiss what his children have to say.

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Heather Mills McCartney Is No Lady
She considers dropping title...

By: Lowri Williams on

Sir Paul McCartney’s estranged wife Lady Heather Mills McCartney will be giving up her title following her divorce from the ex-Beatle.

Mills is planning on reverting back to her maiden name and dropping her title as required by law.

Mills received the title after marrying Macca, but a cabinet spokesman has revealed that Mills is not allowed to keep her full title by law.

He revealed to The Sun: “When a Sir divorces his wife she is allowed to use the title lady but only if it is in the middle of her name.

“So Lady Heather will be called Heather Lady Mills McCartney. But if she reverts back to her maiden name or remarries then she will not be allowed to use Lady at all.”

Macca has recently filed for divorce against Mills citing her ‘unreasonable behaviour’ as the cause for their marriage breakdown…she is biting back and making a counter claims.

You can see this divorce just going, on and on and on….

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Quite the "lady" is Heather, if things are truly turning the way things are shaping in the above news....
Seems that Paul must have been quite patient if it took almost 4 years for him to say, he could not take Heather's behavior any further....
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In the divorce papers Ms. Mills filed today, she called Paul "boring."

We should all be so bored, huh?
I thought the same. He´s a groovy rock´n´roll granddad, I know more boring sixty year olds... Her father complex is simply no basis for marriage, that´s it.

Furthermore I consider it to be no good idea to attend Saturday Night Shows in the US to talk about her divorce, neither do I suggest newspaper interviews.
I do think it´s a good idea to drop her title and donate "a large amount" (and Loka means "large") of her divorce money to charity - preferably without fighting for more money before

She should stop complaining about being so poor and not being able to afford a bodyguard anymore (sorry, but...what for? For her child? She knows Paul´s going to pay for that. Her obsession of protecting Bea has never been reasonable, I assume it was more about calling attention to herself - again). Filming the paparazzi who are armed with nothing more than their cameras while shouting "Leave my baby in peace!" (when her baby´s not even with her) seems like the initial stage of a serious alienation of reality to me. She should (no offense, honestly) see a psychologist, it´ll do her good.

I really don´t know what sort of PR folks she hired, because they don´t do their job correctly. Her spokeswoman keeps spreading strange statements that won´t do Heather´s image any better. Calling someone plain "boring" in a divorce file is ridiculous. All these things have to change or her image will - one day - do her baby girl very bad.

Sorry, Heather, I do so hope you read this.
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Things must be very bad for Paul to let down a charity. That is very unlike him. It seems that the pink-clouding HM has stopped completely, and the feelings he denied for years are now arising to the surface. Sad.

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Sir Paul Mcartney Has Fired 7 People From His New York Offices
04 August 2006 - Paul McCartney

Sir Paul McCartney has fired seven people from his New York offices - because he allegedly wants to cut all ties with estranged wife Heather Mills.

According to America's New York Post newspaper, the former Beatle decided to dismiss the staff from MPL Communications, his lucrative music publishing house, this week in an unexpected cull.

Paul's spokespeople have so far refused to comment on the sackings, but speculation is rife he made the tough decision because of their connections to Heather, who reportedly had a hand in the majority of his business affairs.

Earlier this week, Paul pulled out of performing at an anti-landmine charity event - because of Heather's involvement with the charity.

The musician was due to play at the upcoming annual Adopt-A-Minefield gala dinner but has now refused to participate because of his estranged spouse's strong ties with the organisers.

In a statement, Paul said: "While I continue to be committed to Adopt-A-Minefield and its critical mission, given the current circumstances, I will not be able to attend."

Last year, Paul helped raise around £1.7 million for the charity, which works closely with the United Nations to remove landmines in war torn countries across the world.
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August 2, 2006 -- New York Post

LANDMINE LIMBO

"Paul McCartney has not only dumped Heather Mills, he's also cut ties with her favorite charity. The divorcing Beatle has written the United Nations Association to say "under the circumstances," he can no longer support its Adopt-A-Minefield program, which helps clear land mines and supports survivors, sources say.

The group had planned on his participation in its L.A. fund-raiser this fall. Officials are scrambling for a replacement, and Elton John has turned them down.

McCartney's rep wasn't aware of the letter."

Now he can´t even support their program anymore, plus he doesn´t appear there.
That´s sad, he´s obviously not keen on meeting her during various occasions. It´s a pitty because the attention will definitely not be with Adopt-A-Minefield anymore when he withdraws. Pitty that "innocents" have to suffer under their matrimonial war.
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awe poor thing, don't guess you had anything to do with how you are feeling do you?


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstor...name_page.html

5 August 2006
ABANDONED
LADY MACCA EXCLUSIVE Heather tells pal: 'I have never felt more alone. It hurts and the pain just won't go away'
By Caroline Hedley
TROUBLED Heather Mills cuts a lonely figure as she admits her split with Sir Paul McCartney has left her feeling abandoned.

Lady McCartney - pictured looking thin and drawn at a Madonna concert - has told close friends the pain of her marriage break-up just won't go away.

She said: "I have never felt more alone in my life. It's like I've been abandoned. I can't pretend it doesn't hurt. It's like a physical pain. It just goes on and on."


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From THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS:
Paul McCartney filed for divorce Friday after estranged wife Heather Mills refused $45 million to go away. The former Beatle may end up paying $200 million to Mills, whom he accused in court papers of being "rude to his staff" and "argumentative" and of having secretly recorded a conversation between him and daughter Stella. Mills, meanwhile, accused the father of her toddler, Beatrice, of being boring.

The guy has given the world more melody than Mozart on mushrooms — we should all be so boring.
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