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Old Oct 12, 2009, 05:08 AM   #1
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Default favourite drumming.

i've never listened to a beatle song and thought that the drumming should of been a lot better, and i imagine you haven't either?
i say that coz there is one thing that really gets me mad, and thats criticism of ringo's playing. i read on a drumming forum yesterday that most people who say he's bad, are non-drummers.

anyway, just wanted to get that out of the way!

one reason i like ringo's drumming is that fact that you can really notice it on a lot of the songs, and its a great sound too. so what tracks contain your favourite ringo drumming? doesn't have to be technical or anything, just that you really like, and listen out for.

i love his playing and sound on 'strawberry fields forever'.
'hello goodbye' is another one, on this one he sounds like he's having a lot of fun.
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Old Oct 13, 2009, 10:54 PM   #2
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The end of Dear Prudence is the best drumming on any Beatles song ever.
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Old Oct 13, 2009, 11:40 PM   #3
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Old Oct 14, 2009, 08:49 PM   #5
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Ringo is a great power pop drummer. He virtually invented power pop drumming, really.

Like was said from the start, there's not a single Beatles record I know of that I don't like Ringo's drumming on...except maybe the version of "Love Me Do" which features him. That's really it. Everything else is absolutely stellar.

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"A Day in the Life"--I mean, those fills...WOW!!!! They blow my mind afresh everytime I really listen to it.

Long, Long, Long--One of the most underappreciated tracks in the whole Beatles catalog. And Ringo's "Yet Another Day in the Life" approach is even more amazing to these ears than his work on the original ADITL.

And of course..."RAIN"--What can be said that hasn't already been said?...One of the most important drumming moments in the history of rock.
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Old Oct 15, 2009, 11:55 AM   #6
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I have always thought that Ringo's drumming was totally under-rated. I mean, when compared to some of the more flashy drummers from that era like Keith Moon and Mitch Mitchell, one might see Ringo as "mediocre".

But you've got to take the drumming into context with the music it goes along with... and when you do that, you can arrive at just one conclusion: that Ringo was a solid 1st-rate drummer. He knew exactly what the songs needed and delivered on each performance.
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Old Oct 15, 2009, 07:46 PM   #7
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[quote=62hofner;979339]But you've got to take the drumming into context with the music it goes along with...QUOTE]

Yep, exactly. Drums are part of the ensemble and criticizing drumming only
in a context of some prog or fusion jazz oriented technical structure is just goofy. And can be misleading, too. Too bad that many of us drummers tend to be more academic technicians than any kind of artists.

But even more than art, drums are music. Ringo plays so exhuberantly well on so many songs but maybe the entire Rubber Soul album, especially in its new remastered sound brilliance, is a presentable sample of his playing. I would like to point out the single stroke tom rolls, accents on hi-hat and tremendous tempo playing, which gives the fantastic compositions that float they deserve.

The whole Beatles catalogue is full of tastefully intonated and cleverly invented drum beats and fills. It is evident that most of those were also invented by Ringo, although Paul did a lot of work also at that field. If I should name one song that I like the most drumming-wise, let that be Rain.

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Old Oct 16, 2009, 07:11 AM   #8
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LOVE the drums on "Not a Second Time."
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Sometimes I hear other drummers actually say Ringo wasn't good or even "untalented." And I can't believe it. He was a great drummer.

Thing is, a lot of drummers (especially ones around my age) equate good drumming with how loud and fast you're playing. Which yeah, that can work in some styles of music, but if Ringo did it, it would sound out of place. You have to take the context of the music into account.

Another thing I love about Ringo's drumming is unlike a lot of drummers, he knew when he needed to shut up. If a part of the song didn't need drums, he didn't play. If it only needed a hi-hat hit on the downbeat of every measure, that's all he did for that section. So many drummers I know just can't wrap their heads around the fact that sometimes drums need to be quiet.
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Old Oct 16, 2009, 07:45 AM   #10
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i'm sure most of you would of seen these already, but for those who haven't:

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=382

http://web2.airmail.net/gshultz/drumpage.html
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Old Oct 17, 2009, 07:41 AM   #11
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I love the drumming on Rain and Tomorroe Never Knows
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I love the drumming on Rain and Tomorroe Never Knows
Ringo considered those two to be his best performances. I also like his drumming on "Oh! Darling". The drumming on "Tomorrow Never Knows" sounds like a deluxe version of the drumming on "What You're Doing".
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Thing is, a lot of drummers (especially ones around my age) equate good drumming with how loud and fast you're playing.
Same holds true for guitar playing and bass playing. When I was in high school, my music buddies used to make fun of guitarists who didn't have sparks flying off their fret boards! When did the "faster and louder is better" mind set ever take hold?

Give me one well-placed, mournful guitar string bend over a 30-note rapid-fire phrase ANY day!
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I think it was the fusion jazz and van halen of the '70s that began that attitude. I think it used to be better in the '90s but now we're back to the same crap.

Listen to the great dynamic drumming on Wait!
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Even if it's one of the Beatles somewhat more simplistic songs, I LOVE Ringo's drumming on 'I Saw Her Standing There'. In most of their early performances, he always seems to get really into it during that song - he pretty much defines rock & roll in it.
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I also love Ringo's drumming in Tell Me Why.
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Old Nov 10, 2009, 08:21 PM   #17
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As originally stated, it's hard to think of a Beatles track where the drums sound in any way inadequate.
Some of my favourite Ringo performances have been mentioned already - Rain, A Day In The Life, Long Long Long - but I'd also cite Come Together and Something as examples of the fact that few drummers would have come up with the parts that so often become an integral part of great Beatles tracks.
Other fine examples are Get Back, I Feel Fine and Ticket To Ride - the drum parts are almost hooks in themselves!

The way that I sum it up is that most drummers want to play the drums but Ringo's priority is always to play the song.
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Yes...Ringo was always serving the song, and that is a huge part of what made the Beatles such a great band.
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For the longest time, The Beatles' songs (for me) defied deconstruction. I never really heard what any of them were doing, and perhaps that's a testament to how seamlessly they fit together -- Ringo's drumming was there and blended in so well to what the song needed that you only really notice it when it's not there and the song doesn't sound right. Of course, now I notice these things a lot more often (thanks to the remasters).

Incidentally, I also have a newfound respect for Ringo because of Rock Band. I know it's not the same as actually drumming, but when I see the visual representation of which drum was being used and when and how often, it blows my mind. I'm lucky if I can pass a song with more than 60% of the notes hit.
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Yes...Ringo was always serving the song, and that is a huge part of what made the Beatles such a great band.
For sure - exactly how I think about it.

All of them did that... George has heaps of examples that show he did just what was right for the moment rather than being the moment.
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