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Jun 06, 2011, 07:55 PM
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Studio version vs. Live versions
I remember when I first bought "Wings Over America" during my earliest Beatles/Paul McCartney fandom. It was, I think, the third album I ever acquired ("London Town" and "Wings Greatest" being #1, and #2)....
Some months down the road, I bought "Venus and Mars (on 8-track! LOL!). I was immediately struck by the differences in some of the tracks when compared to the "Over America" versions, which I had heard first, obviously. In one or two cases, I was even disappointed in the studio versions..... which leads me to the gist of this thread!
Are there any Beatles or Beatles solo tracks in which you actually prefer the "Live" version over the studio version? If so, list them here... and give the title of the live (official or bootleg) album that the version comes from.
I'll start!
"Venus and Mars/Rock Show" from "Wings Over America"....... this live version, I think, kicks the studio version's ass — all over America AND the World!
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Jun 06, 2011, 08:07 PM
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Sgt. Pepper
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Letting Go is WAY better on Wings Over America, I think.
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Jun 06, 2011, 08:14 PM
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Wild Honey Pie
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"I'm Down" with John's legendary elbow glissandi! : )
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Jun 06, 2011, 08:49 PM
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Dr. Robert
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 62hofner
I remember when I first bought "Wings Over America" during my earliest Beatles/Paul McCartney fandom. It was, I think, the third album I ever acquired ("London Town" and "Wings Greatest" being #1, and #2)....
Some months down the road, I bought "Venus and Mars (on 8-track! LOL!). I was immediately struck by the differences in some of the tracks when compared to the "Over America" versions, which I had heard first, obviously. In one or two cases, I was even disappointed in the studio versions..... which leads me to the gist of this thread!
Are there any Beatles or Beatles solo tracks in which you actually prefer the "Live" version over the studio version? If so, list them here... and give the title of the live (official or bootleg) album that the version comes from.
I'll start!
"Venus and Mars/Rock Show" from "Wings Over America"....... this live version, I think, kicks the studio version's ass — all over America AND the World!
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I think everything on WOA is better than any studio version. |
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Jun 06, 2011, 10:20 PM
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Old Brown Shoe
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Wouldn't go that far ("Listen to What the Man Said" is much better in the studio version for instance), but yeah, the bulk of it is. That's easily the best Wings album and best live album ever. Highlights that especially blow away the studio versions:
"Maybe I'm Amazed"
"Call Me Back Again"
"Time to Hide"
"Beware My Love"
"Letting Go"
I also love the acoustic rehearsal version of "Bluebird" on the BOTR 25th anniversary disc, but it's way too short.
"Vanilla Sky" from Back in the US
"Highway" from Good Evening New York City
"Biker Like an Icon" from Paul is Live
"Woman is the Nigger of the World" from JL Anthology (one of my top 3 John recordings ever)
"John Sinclair" from JL Anthology
I think that's pretty much it.
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Jun 06, 2011, 11:24 PM
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Dr. Robert
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As far as Wings Over America goes, I was extremely disappointed.
After seeing Paul live on the tour 3 consecutive nights at the old Chicago Stadium, I also bought a 3LP bootleg set (red, white and blue vinyl) recorded live in LA, the last show of the tour. The recording is top notch for a boot, and the mix captured everything live, the audience and all. When I heard an official release was forthcoming, I got even more excited figuring if the bootleg was this good, the official release should really kick ass!
When I put that first disc on to listen, I was immediately disappointed that it sounded like they recorded it live off the mixing board, the audience mics virtually non existent. I joked that in Spirits Of Ancient Egypt, Denny sounds like he's singing down in my basement rather than in a large arena filled with concert going fans.
Don't get me wrong here, the performance on WOA is great, but IMHO it fails to capture even a fraction of the live performances that I attended and heard on the bootleg.
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Jun 07, 2011, 09:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ringo_rama
Wouldn't go that far ("Listen to What the Man Said" is much better in the studio version for instance), but yeah, the bulk of it is. That's easily the best Wings album and best live album ever. Highlights that especially blow away the studio versions:
"Maybe I'm Amazed"
"Call Me Back Again"
"Time to Hide"
"Beware My Love"
"Letting Go"
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I agree... "Listen To What The Man Said" is far superior in the studio than the live version. It's not so clear-cut on some of the "Venus and Mars" tracks...
I am torn between "You Gave Me The Answer" and "Magneto and Titanium Man". I prefer elements of the studio version of "Magneto" (backing vocals mainly), but the energy and Paul's lead vocals on the live version are hard to match.
"Band On The Run" totally loses live when compared to the studio version. I'd also say "Jet" is superior in the studio.
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Jun 08, 2011, 06:52 PM
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Paperback Writer
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Soily on Wings Over America just flat out rocks, and Hi Hi Hi is much improved over the original single.
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Jun 09, 2011, 08:48 AM
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There are some damn fine live versions of George's best songs on "The Concert for George". But, as they are not performed BY George himself, I can't really list them here.
I don't recall specific performances from "Bangladesh", but I'll have to re-visit that concert to see if there were any preferred versions from that show....
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Jun 13, 2011, 12:32 PM
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Taxman
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I'd prefer "The Long and Winding Road" from Wings Over America over the Beatles version any day.
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Jun 13, 2011, 02:54 PM
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Old Brown Shoe
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Ooh, I always forget it because it's not from a live album but the live single version of "Coming Up" obliterates the McCartney II version. Probably the most stark difference between an ok studio recording and an incredible live take ever.
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Jun 13, 2011, 02:58 PM
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Sgt. Pepper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ringo_rama
Ooh, I always forget it because it's not from a live album but the live single version of "Coming Up" obliterates the McCartney II version. Probably the most stark difference between an ok studio recording and an incredible live take ever.
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Is the live version on All the Best?
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Jun 13, 2011, 03:22 PM
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Old Brown Shoe
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Depends. The UK version includes the studio recording (which was the hit there). The US ATB! includes the live one.
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Jun 13, 2011, 04:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ringo_rama
Ooh, I always forget it because it's not from a live album but the live single version of "Coming Up" obliterates the McCartney II version. Probably the most stark difference between an ok studio recording and an incredible live take ever.
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Nice one!
I had forgotten about that.... being that it was snuck into the "McCartney II" LP release. |
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Sep 21, 2011, 09:33 PM
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Taxman
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Recently ever since getting the McCartney and McCartney II Remasters, I enjoy the studio version of "Coming Up" a whole better than the live single version. On McCartney I have falling in love with the One Hand Clapping version of "Maybe I'm Amazed", and the live versions of both "Every Night", and "Hot As Sun" but I also do like the studio version of "Hot As Sun as well.
Last edited by Brainwashed : Sep 21, 2011 at 09:34 PM.
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Oct 16, 2011, 08:17 AM
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Taxman
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From listening to bootleg versions on YouTube I have really enjoyed stuff of George's Dark Horse tour such as "For You Blue" and George's version of "In My Life" over the studio versions anyday.
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Oct 22, 2011, 05:52 AM
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Sun King
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I usually prefer whichever version I become familiar with first. Most of the time for me that's the studio version. I'm not really into getting live versions of songs cuz I prefer the recording
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Jul 01, 2012, 03:29 PM
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Taxman
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I do like the studio version of "Get Back" rather than the version on Let It Be.
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Aug 09, 2012, 10:24 PM
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Fool On The Hill
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I think everything on WOA is better than any studio version
Last edited by leito : Aug 11, 2012 at 05:19 PM.
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Aug 10, 2012, 01:55 AM
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Day Tripper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leito
I think everything on WOA is better than any studio version
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Didn't they "sweeten" WOA in the studio before it's release? Fixed bad vocals etc. Read that somewhere. |
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