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Jun 07, 2006, 09:45 AM
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Nowhere Man
Join Date: May 13, 2006
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Put a crash helmet on sweetheart!
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Jun 07, 2006, 09:47 AM
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Sun King
Join Date: May 31, 2005
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Originally Posted by Harry
yeah and he smoked and probably still smokes a bucket of weed which not only did he grow himself illegally but also smuggled into Japan many years ago like Heathers pictures were taken many years ago, calling her an unfit mother is really sinking low.
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I always sort of suspected Paul got arrested on purpose. 
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Jun 07, 2006, 09:49 AM
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Sun King
Join Date: Mar 26, 2001
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Originally Posted by Harry
Well maybe not over there, I am Welsh (British), and only today i took a bus ride and some of the words i heard coming out of the mouths of 14 year old school children  I just think there should be a grown up discussion which i believe it has been to a certain extent, people of have got hot under the collar yes but to result to name calling is terrible terribly sad.
Oh and we use the term "playground" meaning school not literally a playground, if you know what i mean.
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Okay...I was picturing kids my son's age, and he's only seven. I know he and his friends do not know words like that, or at any rate, what they mean.
Anyway, I agree with Georgie Girl, that poor child deserves time with both parents, though as I said I would hate to be the judge deciding who gets primary custody. But it does seem very early in the process for these decisions to be made already, and makes me wonder whether this "information" is true. And unfortunately, given the "statements" Heather's "people" have given over the years whenever something is in dispute, I tend to lean towards this being just another premature attempt to save face that ultimately digs a deeper hole.
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"When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow." - Anais Nin
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Jun 07, 2006, 10:27 AM
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Rocky Raccoon
Join Date: Jul 22, 2002
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Glad everyone read the article I posted earlier where Stuart Bell (Paul's PR guy) as well as Heather's spokesperson deny any rumour of custody arrangements having been settled one way or the other. LOL!
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Jun 07, 2006, 10:36 AM
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Sun King
Join Date: Mar 26, 2001
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Originally Posted by maybebaby
Glad everyone read the article I posted earlier where Stuart Bell (Paul's PR guy) as well as Heather's spokesperson deny any rumour of custody arrangements having been settled one way or the other. LOL!
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I saw that, didn't it come out before this one, like several days ago? The article above (and the original query) came after a statement from Heather's people that she got full custody on Friday last week.
As I said, nothing is reliable -- especially if it comes from Heather's people, IMO.
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"And this I believe: that the free, exploring mind of the individual human is the most valuable thing in all the world. And this I would fight for: the freedom of the mind to take any direction it wishes, undirected. And this I must fight against: any idea, religion, or government which limits or destroys the individual." - John Steinbeck
"When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow." - Anais Nin
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Jun 07, 2006, 10:52 AM
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Rocky Raccoon
Join Date: Jul 22, 2002
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It's new and clearly a response to what was published today:
McCartneys Deny Custody Report
Wednesday Jun 07, 2006 10:05am EST
By Courtney Rubin and Pete Norman
CREDIT: JANET GOUGH / CELEBRITY PHOTO
Despite a U.S. television report, Heather Mills McCartney has not gained full custody of Beatrice, her 2-year-old daughter with estranged husband Sir Paul McCartney, reps for both Heather and Sir Paul tell PEOPLE.
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Jun 07, 2006, 11:04 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Nov 15, 2000
Location: Chicago, IL USA
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Originally Posted by HMVNipper
Gee, I would LOVE to have that kind of power...to affect the tabloids...to have people take me that seriously.
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Ha! I wasn't seriously inferring that there were tabloid reporters skulking around Beatlelinks waiting to turn your (or anyone else's) latest predictions into their next headlines. But these things can take on a life of their own sometimes...you know, somebody reads it, tells somebody else and forgets to mention it's just an opinion, they e-mail a 3rd person, who posts it on a Yahoo group and 1000 people are told it's "fact". It's SO easy. Why add to the general misery level in the world?
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Originally Posted by HMVNipper
Gimme a break -- and you can't honestly tell me that other people around here haven't been thinking this either.
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Perhaps not, but I can honestly tell you that I don't have enough interest, nor enough time on my hands to spend speculating about what other people around here have or haven't been thinking about Heather.
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Jun 07, 2006, 11:25 AM
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Sun King
Join Date: Mar 26, 2001
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Originally Posted by Rellevart
Ha! I wasn't seriously inferring that there were tabloid reporters skulking around Beatlelinks waiting to turn your (or anyone else's) latest predictions into their next headlines. But these things can take on a life of their own sometimes...you know, somebody reads it, tells somebody else and forgets to mention it's just an opinion, they e-mail a 3rd person, who posts it on a Yahoo group and 1000 people are told it's "fact". It's SO easy. Why add to the general misery level in the world?
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Gee, I have a fanfic like that on my website! Seriously, there's a story there about some office gossip becoming true.
I do not believe that happens in the real world, sorry. Not when there are people with brains who point out that the "facts" came from a discussion board and not a news site.
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Perhaps not, but I can honestly tell you that I don't have enough interest, nor enough time on my hands to spend speculating about what other people around here have or haven't been thinking about Heather.
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Fine, then don't read or comment in the threads. I mean, if you really have no interest in it and clearly think very little of people who do, why bother coming back and berating us? The mere fact that you keep coming back and arguing with people who do want to discuss it by telling us that we're disrespectful or nasty seems to indicate that maybe secretly you DO have enough interest and perhaps just don't want to own up to it. If you don't care, then no one's forcing you to read or participate in these threads -- but I would ask that you stop judging people who want to, because that is surely how it seems.
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"When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow." - Anais Nin
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Jun 07, 2006, 11:29 AM
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Sun King
Join Date: Mar 26, 2001
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Originally Posted by maybebaby
It's new and clearly a response to what was published today:
McCartneys Deny Custody Report
Wednesday Jun 07, 2006 10:05am EST
By Courtney Rubin and Pete Norman
CREDIT: JANET GOUGH / CELEBRITY PHOTO
Despite a U.S. television report, Heather Mills McCartney has not gained full custody of Beatrice, her 2-year-old daughter with estranged husband Sir Paul McCartney, reps for both Heather and Sir Paul tell PEOPLE.
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Not ten seconds after I posted my reply to you before, I got an email about this...sorry, I didn't realize it was a new statement. But that does indicate that at least on this particular point, nothing has been decided yet...and I would say that Heather's "US rep" is probably being told to keep her big mouth shut or is out of a job by now.
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"And this I believe: that the free, exploring mind of the individual human is the most valuable thing in all the world. And this I would fight for: the freedom of the mind to take any direction it wishes, undirected. And this I must fight against: any idea, religion, or government which limits or destroys the individual." - John Steinbeck
"When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow." - Anais Nin
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Jun 07, 2006, 11:34 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Nov 15, 2000
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Originally Posted by HMVNipper
Fine, then don't read or comment in the threads. I mean, if you really have no interest in it and clearly think very little of people who do, why bother coming back and berating us?
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You misunderstand. I did not say that I'm not interested in what people are saying about the situation. I'm quite interested in that, which is why I continue to read and comment. What I am not interested in is blindly speculating what other members who are not posting in this thread may or may not be thinking about. Quite different.
And I don't believe that I am berating anybody. If you feel berated, I apologize for making you feel that way. It is not my intent. I do not enjoy being intentionally cruel, so if I have insulted you by stating my opinions on matters, I apologize.
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Jun 07, 2006, 11:45 AM
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Sun King
Join Date: Mar 26, 2001
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Oh, I'm not "blindly" speculating at all, actually -- I'm saying what I know to be the truth from talking to other people from this forum outside of this forum.
I do feel berated, and so, I am certain, do other people -- or did you not read the other thread about the porn pictures? Let's see, several people (including several other moderators) have been letting other members have it for discussing this for a while now...or did you perhaps miss that? I could quote a few things for you if you like. But then again, I guess some people's opinions are more acceptable than others...and apparently if the opinions expressed aren't sweetness and light and cutesy-poo Paulie stuff, then they're automatically "disrespectful" and "nasty" and worth taking someone down over.
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"And this I believe: that the free, exploring mind of the individual human is the most valuable thing in all the world. And this I would fight for: the freedom of the mind to take any direction it wishes, undirected. And this I must fight against: any idea, religion, or government which limits or destroys the individual." - John Steinbeck
"When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow." - Anais Nin
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Jun 07, 2006, 11:54 AM
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Join Date: Jan 13, 2001
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Could we go back to the topic? And maybe some discussions would be better offline?
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Jun 07, 2006, 11:58 AM
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Sun King
Join Date: May 31, 2005
Location: Sinkhole, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynner
Could we go back to the topic? And maybe some discussions would be better offline?
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I like it better this way. 
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Jun 07, 2006, 12:00 PM
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Sun King
Join Date: Jan 19, 2006
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lol!
I feel bad for Paul. I'd hate to think what it will do to him if he only has visitation rights.
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Jun 07, 2006, 12:02 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: May 23, 2001
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Susan, I'm glad you said what you did as I was feeling exactly the same way. Everybody is entitled to their opinions and to express them. Like John Lennon said on the Christmas 1964 album, "John here speaking with his voice!" we hopefully are all speaking in our voices, meaning our true opinions and not echoing the party/prevailing sentiment.
Back to our regularly scheduled topic - with regard to custody, I am glad that I am not in the position to judge. All I can say is that like Harry said, one's background does not necessarily have anything to do with one's parenting styles or ability to be a good parent. I am not saying Heather is or isn't; I don't know, but I am saying that there is something to what he has said above.
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Jun 07, 2006, 12:04 PM
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Sun King
Join Date: Jan 19, 2006
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I'm glad I'm not the judge either and Beatrice is too young to tell the judge how she feels about each parent. So this should be tricky.
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"Truly, this man was the King of Pop." - Nostalgic Critic
It looks like they just put a whole lotta movies in a blender and turned it on really fast. - Myster Science Theater 3000
"They're dead grotty!" - George Harrison
Comic Book Guy: But, Aquaman, you cannot marry a woman without gills. You're from two different worlds... Oh, I've wasted my life. - The Simpsons
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Jun 07, 2006, 12:08 PM
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Sun King
Join Date: Jan 19, 2006
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Who in the what now?
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"Truly, this man was the King of Pop." - Nostalgic Critic
It looks like they just put a whole lotta movies in a blender and turned it on really fast. - Myster Science Theater 3000
"They're dead grotty!" - George Harrison
Comic Book Guy: But, Aquaman, you cannot marry a woman without gills. You're from two different worlds... Oh, I've wasted my life. - The Simpsons
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Jun 07, 2006, 12:09 PM
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Sun King
Join Date: Mar 26, 2001
Location: New York City, USA
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Originally Posted by FPSHOT
LOL.... in normal English.... gossip talk based on glosse articles....
It's what you value...
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I will say yet again -- if you don't like what is being discussed or have no interest in it, why bother to even comment in the threads? Do you get some kind of perverse joy out of berating other people who do want to talk about it? Do you think that not a single Beatles fan is discussing this outside of forums like this one? Boy oh boy, if you believe that you really have your head in the sand.
Yeah, it is what you value...and clearly some people value being self-righteous and smug.  Fine, if you think you're so much better than those of us who want to talk about it or who think Heather is a liar with psychological issues, then go off and leave us alone, but stop coming onto these threads and slamming us for talking about it!
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"When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow." - Anais Nin
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Jun 07, 2006, 12:12 PM
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Gentle reminder...
Getting back to the topic at hand here....
Many might say it is Devil's Radio, perhaps? Still, everyone will have to wait and see. As for myself, I will hope for everybody's best interest, here on this board and in the McCartney family.
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Jun 07, 2006, 12:13 PM
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Sun King
Join Date: Jan 19, 2006
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What's Devil's Radio?
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"Truly, this man was the King of Pop." - Nostalgic Critic
It looks like they just put a whole lotta movies in a blender and turned it on really fast. - Myster Science Theater 3000
"They're dead grotty!" - George Harrison
Comic Book Guy: But, Aquaman, you cannot marry a woman without gills. You're from two different worlds... Oh, I've wasted my life. - The Simpsons
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