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Old Oct 13, 2009, 08:44 PM   #2
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Help! in mono may be my least favorite of the mono remasters. But it more than makes up for my slight disappointment that the original '65 stereo mix is absolutely wonderful.
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Help! in mono may be my least favorite of the mono remasters. But it more than makes up for my slight disappointment that the original '65 stereo mix is absolutely wonderful.
I stopped the CD once the mono album was over. I'll check out the stereo mix on another time.
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I stopped the CD once the mono album was over. I'll check out the stereo mix on another time.
Seriously, I think the original '65 stereo mix of Help! leaves the '87 remix totally in the dust--even in its newly remastered form.

But I don't feel the same about Rubber Soul. The '87 mix remastered (in other words, the official stereo remaster release) is really, really fine, and I think I probably prefer it to the original '65 stereo mix (available, like Help! on the Mono Box).
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Old Oct 19, 2009, 02:48 AM   #5
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I really didn't like the 87 Help! and Rubber Soul mixes as they didn't sound like the LP's I grew up with. I was really disappointed when I got the stereo remasters and found they had used the 87 mixes!!!

It was only when I received the mono set that I realised what they had done and now play the original 65 stereo mix of both.

The stereo remasters will sit on my shelf as part of the set but never get played.

Eash to his own heh.
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I just listened to my mom's Help! 45 and I liked that stereo version! Heard some things I never heard on the '87 and '09 versions.
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Wow! I just got my mono box set today, and this album sounds so different! Granted, I'm only on "The Night Before" so far, but it is just so drastically different. It's like the lead vocalists on each of the songs is sitting in the room singing! It's grittier, and somehow more in your face. What a wonderful year for us Beatles fans!
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One thing I'll say for Help! in mono. It is very present. "The Night Before" really rocks in the mono mix. It may be the most impressive track on the mono mix for me.
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Help must be the worst sounding Beatles album of all. Its so muddy. It doesnt matter which version, I have the mono box set where there are two mixes mono and stereo, both muddy.
If ever there was a case for a complete remix, its Help!
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I don't know, I am not fond of the album in mono but to me it comes alive in stereo. The stereo version in the mono box is the version for me, not counting a Dr. Ebbets release.
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For me, Help! is two things at once. It's the most tired-and-uninspired sounding that the group ever managed on some songs (such as "Another Girl" or "You're Gonna Lose That Girl"), and yet they're taking artistic leaps towards their future on other songs ("Ticket to Ride", "Yesterday", "Help!", "I've Just Seen A Face" among those). The whole album just seems to be something of a paradox, a truly transitional collection of songs...the last dying gasps of Beatlemania and the first flowerings of their artistic maturity all on the same album.
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The whole album just seems to be something of a paradox, a truly transitional collection of songs...the last dying gasps of Beatlemania and the first flowerings of their artistic maturity all on the same album.
... and that's why The Capitol "Help!" soundtrack is superior. It's a narrowed-down collection of songs from the film... The Beatle tracks mixing well with the instrumentals. The Indian music is a nice touch - as well as an historical one, as we all know, and I need not explain "why".

The U.K. "Help!" was always a hodge-podge to me, and I never liked it as an album. What on earth was "Yesterday" doing hiding "at the back of the bus" as the second-to-last track??? "I've Just Seen A Face", as well - lost in obscurity when it deserved to be better used as it was on the U.S. "Rubber Soul".

Sound-wise, I see no problem with it.
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I think I agree with 62hofner that the Capitol version of Help! actually hangs together better than the original UK album. Taken as Beatles selections in a soundtrack album, the weaker tracks aren't quite as glaringly so.

I always thought that Help! the film was really the first hint we got of psychedelia to come...not in the music, but in the way the film itself was made. It's actually a rather trippy little movie, and I like that about it.
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... and that's why The Capitol "Help!" soundtrack is superior. It's a narrowed-down collection of songs from the film... The Beatle tracks mixing well with the instrumentals. The Indian music is a nice touch - as well as an historical one, as we all know, and I need not explain "why".
It's something we will always disagree on.
I rather have some Beatle songs, great or just good, then instrumentals.
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It's something we will always disagree on.
I rather have some Beatle songs, great or just good, then instrumentals.
Yeah, I know.

Not sure if it's an "American" thing, or what... but if there's a movie made and there's music that comes FROM the movie, I expect a soundtrack album. With that, I find the U.S. "Help!" an excellent soundtrack. The Beatle originals, side-by-side with the instrumentals, create an enjoyable listening experience.

In the case of "Help!", it's not really a U.S. vs. U.K. thing. I just never liked the flow - or lack there of - of the U.K. "Help!" when there was a more concise and "sensible" option in the U.S. soundtrack.

But yeah...... there will be no meeting of the minds on these things.
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I think you're right. But they were in the middle of so much and truly caught in the mania thing and just dying to move forward. With Rubber Soul just around the corner it's just amazing. I remember buying Rubber Soul when it came out (on vinyl) and being so blown away. My favorite on the mono remasters is probably Revolver.
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I think the recycles were/are a waste of time and space.

I'm sure glad I didn't plunk down the almost $500 for them.

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Reasons for thinking that?
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