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Old Sep 02, 2011, 07:02 PM   #15
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NO you didn't offend me nor did I make any assumptions about you. but Catholics do offend me (besides the awful way they treated me that automatically puts me on the defensive due to 13 solid years of emotional abuse) when they try to force someone as Catholic who clearly wasn't like George. (and respecting Jesus as a teacher and a master such as George might have does not make one a Catholic or even a Christian. Those people believe Jesus to be their savior and there is a difference between a savior and a teacher).
Well, this is what I am eager to know, if it is shared. I'd love to know how George felt about all those things. We know George deeply respected Srila Prabhupada, even was ready to shave up and join ISKCON. He got his hair cut from All Thing Must Pass length to LITMW length just specifically because he was going to visit Srila Prabhupada! He wanted to look nice... so sweet. He had such respect for Guru. Srila Prabhupada says this...

Srila Prabhupada: Yes. "Christ" is another way of saying Krsta, and "Krsta" is another way of pronouncing Krsna, the name of God. Jesus said that one should glorify the name of God, but yesterday I heard one theologian say that God has no name--that we can call Him only "Father." A son may call his father "Father," but the father also has a specific name. Similarly, "God" is the general name of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, whose specific name is Krsna. Therefore whether you call God "Christ," "Krsta," or "Krsna," ultimately you are addressing the same Supreme Personality of Godhead.

So, then, George would be surendering to Christ, as God, not teacher.

However..... George also loved Yoganandaji. Yoganandaji was very devoted to Jesus. In fact, original SRF temples in America did not have Krishna on the alter, only Jesus and Yoganana's Gurus. Krishna was added to the alter later on, after Yogananda's passing, to appeal to American Hindus. Now, Yoganandaji though teaches more the way you say... Jesus as teacher/prophet.

I would love to know more of George's thoughts on this. In fact, at gh.com, I've witnessed some bickering over this. Both sides want to claim George. I'd love to hear from those close to George on the matter. :) We fans can speculate, but we cannot know.

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George made many Anti-catholic statements as well as songs like P2 VAtican blues and Horse to Water (both later in his life).
He also made many anti-Catholic and Christianity comments. My favorite I read in Dark Horse where when George was studying the form of meditating under the maharishi with his given mantra, he stated that he preferred these Eastern beliefs where one seeks the answers themselves and practices the mantra to attain enlightenment. He stated he wasn't into Christianity with a priest saying, "I'm it, just listen to what I say." (I'm rereading that book now after 20 years and I'll find the exact quote and where it came from).
His account is true to the difference between the two practices.
I think P2 was a criticism of course... George wanted a more mystical approach maybe? But there are plenty of Catholic mystics. I wonder what George would think of Brother Sun, Sister Moon .... Donovan did the music score. St Francis once said, "If God can work through me, he can work through anyone..." :) So, you know, even the saints we consider really cool are human. I don't expect George would critisize anyone of any religion who was really trying their best.... I think he just wanted people to dig deep is all.

I know the quote you mean. He also said he didn't want a religion which said you can't perceive God, he died 2000 years ago... and he quoted Vivekananda and said "If there is a God we must see Him, if there is a soul we must perceive it ... it is better to be an outspoken atheist than a hypocrite."

BUT... that doesn't (to me) mean he is saying bad things about all of Christianity... merely advocating any mystical path... which would include Christianity. In Live in Japan, he still sings "Om Christ".... and also Buddha, Shiva, Babaji... :)
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