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jklein87 Sep 27, 2005 01:53 PM

Driving Rain vs. Chaos and Creation
 
I personally love them both. how about you all??

JimmyMcCullochFan Sep 27, 2005 02:53 PM

I like Chaos and Creation better.

ringo_rama Sep 27, 2005 03:16 PM

Chaos and Creation is probably Paul's best album since Tug of War (or possibly Flowers in the Dirt).

Driving Rain is just a little bit better than McCartney II and Press to Play.

wednesdaymorning Sep 27, 2005 03:37 PM

I think Chaos And Creation is better. I don't know why, but Driving Rain is not one of my favourites. Just...something about it. It's good, yes, and I listen to it, but this new one is better. Neither add up to McCartney, however. Or Ram...

jklein87 Sep 27, 2005 04:19 PM

I love them both and here's why. I think Chaos and Creation is better lyrically... very good musically. But, I am a drummer and i like to listen to songs with some drumming. And driving rain has that. Abe is one of the best drummers ever IMHO. Plus i like some uptempo songs which driving rain has plenty of. But yes, overall, i do think Chaos is a BIT better.

taxman Sep 27, 2005 05:32 PM

Driving Rain is not as bad as many people say. It's main problem, IMO, is that it has 3 or 4 dispensable songs, like Spinning On An Axis or Rinse The Raindrops. Other than that it's pretty enjoyable.
Chaos don't have this problem, it's very even, all songs are good, some very good.
The all album is very melodic and "relaxing" wich it's different than "boring".
I would give 7/10 to DR and 8/10 to Chaos.

beatlebangs1964 Sep 27, 2005 06:15 PM

C&C for me.

However, I really do like Driving Rain.

rwbarnes Sep 27, 2005 09:19 PM

I have to go with Chaos and Creation. There are some haunting melodies on this one...This never happened before....This is the way it should be for lovers...They shouldn't go it alone....

matt5 Sep 28, 2005 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by taxman
Driving Rain is not as bad as many people say. It's main problem, IMO, is that it has 3 or 4 dispensable songs, like Spinning On An Axis or Rinse The Raindrops. Other than that it's pretty enjoyable.
Chaos don't have this problem, it's very even, all songs are good, some very good.
The all album is very melodic and "relaxing" wich it's different than "boring".
I would give 7/10 to DR and 8/10 to Chaos.

Well said. I agree.

ABCKO Sep 28, 2005 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by matt5
Well said. I agree.

Even though I was never quite so crazy about it ever since it came out, I'd have to say that I prefer ''Driving rain'', to ''Chaos and creation...''.

I played it recently, to compare those two albums. And, unlike ''C & C'', ''DR'' has songs that reach out and grab me to an extent (catchy songs), where as none of those on ''C & C'' do.

The only one that sort of ''do it'' for me on Paul's latest album is ''A fine line'' but each time I play it, I heard ''Flaming Pie''.

Other than that, some of the other songs on that CD do have some nice bits but before the end of them, I'm no longer ''hooked''.

matt5 Sep 28, 2005 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ABCKO
Even though I was never quite so crazy about it ever since it came out, I'd have to say that I prefer ''Driving rain'', to ''Chaos and creation...''.

I played it recently, to compare those two albums. And, unlike ''C & C'', ''DR'' has songs that reach out and grab me to an extent (catchy songs), where as none of those on ''C & C'' do.

The only one that sort of ''do it'' for me on Paul's latest album is ''A fine line'' but each time I play it, I heard ''Flaming Pie''.

Other than that, some of the other songs on that CD do have some nice bits but before the end of them, I'm no longer ''hooked''.

I actually find many of the songs on C&C to be quite catchy. Especially Too Much Rain and Friends to Go. I feel that they are some of the catchiest songs Macca had done in decades.

ABCKO Sep 28, 2005 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by matt5
I actually find many of the songs on C&C to be quite catchy. Especially Too Much Rain and Friends to Go. I feel that they are some of the catchiest songs Macca had done in decades.

To each his own...

But when I say ''catchy'', yes I meant ''catchy'' (i.e. ''hooks you'') but also in the sense that a song will make you want to play it a couple of times in a row, or rewind and play a particular part of it over again a few times.

Mind you, neither of those two albums in my top ten favorite Paul albums, but I'm saying that I hate them either... just that they don't quite ''do it'' for me.

Like I started to mention earlier, on ''C & C'', there are songs like ''Friends to go'' which tweaks my interest but it doesn't hold until the end of the song.

There are a few bits or elements of those songs that I find quite good, but no song per say that I really-really like.

Another song that I might have liked is ''Jenny Wren'', but like ''A fine line'', it reminds me too much of ''Blackbird''... which is not a bad thing per say but in such cases, I tend to prefer the ''original'' song... but the string arrangement on it is very lovely though.

I very much like the fact that ''Too much rain'' was inspired to Paul by Charlie Chaplin's ''Smile''.

Oddly enough, my two favorite songs from these sessions never made it on the album, ''Comfort of love'' and ''She is so beautiful'' !

Rellevart Sep 28, 2005 03:40 AM

I like C&C better but I'm not sure I ever gave DR a chance. I listened to it a couple times, went "Eh..." and played "Band on the Run" or something and never returned to it. I've heard over and over how C&C is an album that grows on you with repeated listening, so I've been doing that and it's true! I quite like all but two tracks and maybe they'll grow on me later. Maybe I need to go back and give DR a re-listen and see if it'll do the same. Also, I think the lyrics on C&C are MUCH stronger, they're some of his better lyrics and DR had some of his worst.

bobdude Sep 28, 2005 08:32 AM

It has taken me a while to get used to the fact that there just isn't any up-tempo songs on 'Chaos'. I seem to be waiting for just one rocker to balance out all the slower tempoed songs. Unfortunately it never happens. Thats not meant to be a criticism. Just a fact. Driving Rain starts off with that driving bass leading off Lonely Road and that in my opinion is what is missing from Chaos. This point was really brought home to me as I recently had a relisten to Back To The Egg(something that I hadn't heard all the way through since the days of vinyl) now that is a vastly underrated album in my opinion!

Maxine Sep 28, 2005 12:28 PM

I prefer Chaos And Creation In The Backyard. There are songs I like on Driving Rain as well, but none of the songs on DR "grabbed" me immediately, I had to listen to the album many times before I really could say I liked it. C&C on the other hand convinced me the first time I heard it. And I actually do like every song on it. I think C&C is masterpiece, something that I canīt say DR is. Just my personal opinion, of course. :wink3:

VivianC Sep 28, 2005 06:21 PM

I like Chaos and Creation better. Personally I think this is a very interesting album. One of the songs that captured my attention at the moment I heard the song was This Never Happened Before, I bought the CD today, and I know the lyrics of that song already without seeing the booklet.

Love it!


Love it!

IWantToTellYou Sep 29, 2005 06:57 AM

For me there is no contest. C&C is much, much, much better than Driving Rain. 150% better.

I have made it clear over the years that I loathe Driving Rain. To me that whole album lacked creativity - it lacked good solid music, it lacked great lyrics! I do however like some tracks, maybe one, or two that I can think of, off the top of my head.

The first time I heard Driving Rain I wanted to throw it out of my car window. I wondered what Macca was thinking? "One, two, three, four, five, let's go for a drive." What the hell is that?!? Paul is a lyrical genius. That was just crap. I felt that the whole album was rushed and that he wasn't really into making it at all. I have always thought that the album would grow on me - but the only thing growing on it is dust, because I never, ever listen to it.

Kudos to Paul for making a wonderful album that I enjoy just as much as Flaming Pie, or Off The Ground for example. I cannot wait to see the new songs played live! C&C is a great album, and I would recommend it to anyone (even if they aren't huge Paul McCartney fans). I am glad to see that the magic is back.

jklein87 Sep 29, 2005 08:41 AM

I personnally think Driving Rain is much better than Off the Ground!!

IWantToTellYou Sep 29, 2005 11:26 AM

Well, since this topic is about C&C vs. Driving Rain, I am not going to get into why I prefer Off the Ground to Driving Rain. I am sure that you are in the minority however.

:smile1:

Legs Sep 29, 2005 12:06 PM

I prefer "Driving Rain" to "Off the ground" but that's another debate ;)

There are lots of songs I like on "Driving Rain", but it isn't an album I pull out often. When I do I usually just listen to a few tracks. I like to listen to C&C as a whole. It's a nice album to listen to. Sure there isn't a real rock song, and "Driving Rain" had more diversity, but C&C it's just one class album to listen to. Relaxing could be the word for it, but indeed not boring.

Final conclusion is that I prefer "C&C" But still both are way better then "Off the ground" ;)


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