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Lucy in the diamond sky

Jan 08, 2002, 03:20 AM

Here are some facts about John you maybe already know!

-John Lennon was born to Julia Lennon after 30 hours of labor on October 9,1940
-John was expelled from school for mis behaviour at age 5
-Later in life , John discovered that he had dyslexia
-By age 15 John was a big fan of Elvis Priesley
-Without glasses, John was legally blind
-John's favourite colour is green
-John's favourite foods were corn flakes, bread and vegeterian dishes
-John had a strong affection for cats, at one time owing as many as six of them
-The first instrument John was given as a child was a accordion
-In the late '60's, John purchased his own island of the coast of Ireland
-John did not appear at the hospital until a full week after his son Julian was born
-John often referred to Yoko as "it"
-John and Paul were never as close as they appeared publicly
-On the road, John would room with George, and Paul with Ringo
-The dissesion between John and Paul probably started the long decline that ultimately broke up the group
-John kept a light on while he slept, because he hated the dark
-John ate very little after a reporter labeled him "the fat Beatle" in 1965
-John drank 20 to 30 cups of tea or coffee every day
-John frequently chose to wear no clothing, even when he had visitors in his home
-John believed in reincarnation
-Yoko had John's boby cremated on Wednesday, December 10,1980

Sorry but I don't have the link to where I got these from

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Cecilia

Jan 08, 2002, 09:00 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Lucy in the diamond sky:
-Later in life , John discovered that he had dyslexia
-John's favourite colour is green
-John's favourite foods were corn flakes, bread and vegeterian dishes
-The first instrument John was given as a child was a accordion
-In the late '60's, John purchased his own island of the coast of Ireland
-John kept a light on while he slept, because he hated the dark
-John ate very little after a reporter labeled him "the fat Beatle" in 1965
-John frequently chose to wear no clothing, even when he had visitors in his home

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I didn't know these facts...http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/afraid3.gif Thanks for posting it Sophie!!http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif

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Lucy in the diamond sky

Jan 08, 2002, 01:08 PM

If you got a reliable source that says it I will agree with you because I only got them from an Internet site http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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Cecilia

Jan 08, 2002, 01:21 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Lucy in the diamond sky:

-John and Paul were never as close as they appeared publicly

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¿What year? John and Paul were very close in the early years...they became more distant to each other in 1966 and on...

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peaceflame

Jan 08, 2002, 02:23 PM

HOW in the WORLD could he SEE before he got his signature round glasses?????????? i seriously dont think he was legally blind. my vision is 20/800, which i think SHOULD be legally blind since i cant see a foot in front of my face. i dont think he was legally blind, he wouldnt be able to get on stage!!!!!

and internet sites arent always right.

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ChrisG134

Jan 08, 2002, 02:44 PM

I really like the part that says he like to walk around the house naked.Would of loved to seen that!

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ahme623

Jan 08, 2002, 03:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By ChrisG134:
I really like the part that says he like to walk around the house naked.Would of loved to seen that!

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i agree!

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Jan 08, 2002, 05:44 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By peaceflame:
HOW in the WORLD could he SEE before he got his signature round glasses?????????? i seriously dont think he was legally blind. my vision is 20/800, which i think SHOULD be legally blind since i cant see a foot in front of my face. i dont think he was legally blind, he wouldnt be able to get on stage!!!!!

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He wore contact lenses in the early '60s, but I don't think either that he was legally blind...he couldn't see well, yes, but...BLIND?

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shyGirl

Jan 08, 2002, 06:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Cecilia:
He wore contact lenses in the early '60s, but I don't think either that he was legally blind...he couldn't see well, yes, but...BLIND?

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I read somewhere that when he performed in the early days(I guess), he went onstage without seeing anything. No glasses or contacts.

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Angelle

Jan 08, 2002, 09:29 PM

I'm going from memory here, but I recall soon after John died Yoko released a statement to the press about how she explained what happened to Sean about his father and how after he died she called the three people John would most want to know, Julian, Aunt Mimi, and Paul. I'm guessing that means regardless of their personal differences there was a lot of love there between the two.

Angelle

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MaccaTwst9

Jan 09, 2002, 12:11 AM

Some of those aren't true...
he didnt purchase that island until the 70s, and he never kept a light on, and he visited Julian 2 days after not a week

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HMVNipper

Jan 09, 2002, 04:47 AM

"Legally blind" doesn't mean you're blind as in you can't see at all, it means your vision, uncorrected, is so poor that you virtually cannot see anything because it's just one big white blur. John was EXTREMELY nearsighted -- it's entirely possible that without correction (i.e., glasses or contact lenses) he could not see well enough to function...remember, there are plenty of stories about how he refused to wear his glasses and didn't recognize people until they were standing right on top of him! Also, probably one of the reasons he stood so close to the mike in the early days (when he went onstage without his glasses and didn't have contacts) was because he couldn't SEE the darn thing unless he was that close to it!

Anyway, it is entirely possible that without visual correction, John was what would be termed "legally blind."

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peaceflame

Jan 09, 2002, 01:37 PM

yes, thank you, i know what legally blind means. i FEEL legally blind.http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/afraid4.gif lol. and yes now that i think about it, i am guessing that he wore contacts. heck, they were invented in the 1870's. contacts sound more reasonable to me.

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HMVNipper

Jan 09, 2002, 02:35 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By peaceflame:
yes, thank you, i know what legally blind means. i FEEL legally blind.http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/afraid4.gif lol. and yes now that i think about it, i am guessing that he wore contacts. heck, they were invented in the 1870's. contacts sound more reasonable to me.

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Actually, I do think that by the time the Beatles reached the US, he was wearing contact lenses...I remember reading someplace about the wild searches if one got lost! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

Oh, and Peaceflame, I wasn't actually defining "legally blind" for you, but for Cecilia...she seemed to be so incredulous! I hope no one was insulted...I probably should have quoted the message I was replying to! So I'm sorry if anyone felt miffed...that was definitely not my intention! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/blush2.gif

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peaceflame

Jan 09, 2002, 04:36 PM

its cool.
speaking of wild contact lense searching.....i once had my brother's whole hockey team down on their hands and knees looking for one of mine only to find that it was waaayy back behind my eyeball!!!

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biglou114

Jan 09, 2002, 04:54 PM

I knew most of those facts

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Cecilia

Jan 09, 2002, 05:30 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By HMVNipper:

Oh, and Peaceflame, I wasn't actually defining "legally blind" for you, but for Cecilia...she seemed to be so incredulous! I hope no one was insulted...I probably should have quoted the message I was replying to! So I'm sorry if anyone felt miffed...that was definitely not my intention! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/blush2.gif

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Don't worry...http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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HeyBeatle

Jan 09, 2002, 05:49 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By peaceflame:
its cool.
speaking of wild contact lense searching.....i once had my brother's whole hockey team down on their hands and knees looking for one of mine only to find that it was waaayy back behind my eyeball!!!

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I had my entire class on hands and knees searching for my contact after I was elbowed in the eye, it turned up in my eye. It was still great fun to see what power a contact wearing person has over those around them.

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SF4-EVER

Jan 09, 2002, 06:29 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By HeyBeatle:
I had my entire class on hands and knees searching for my contact after I was elbowed in the eye, it turned up in my eye. It was still great fun to see what power a contact wearing person has over those around them.

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So that's how to make people grovel at your feet.... http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/devious.gif

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MaccaTwst9

Jan 09, 2002, 09:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Lucy in the diamond sky:
If you got a reliable source that says it I will agree with you because I only got them from an Internet site http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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Lucy-
My friend Caitlin owns the Cynthia Lennon book, PLUS shes a True John Lennon Fan, and she knows everything there is to know about John Lennon, you can't believe an internet site, its like trusting Geoffrey G, and well thats not good, but belive me, my friend is a really reliable source, and if you don't believe me, you can contact her, or something, but shes very reliable, she knows EVERYTHING there is to know about John Lennon

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Lucy in the diamond sky

Jan 10, 2002, 12:32 AM

Of course I believe you!
Your posts looked quite angry, I have to say

By the way you can call me with my name,it's Sophie http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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HMVNipper

Jan 10, 2002, 04:56 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By MaccaTwst9:
Lucy-
My friend Caitlin owns the Cynthia Lennon book, PLUS shes a True John Lennon Fan, and she knows everything there is to know about John Lennon, you can't believe an internet site, its like trusting Geoffrey G, and well thats not good, but belive me, my friend is a really reliable source, and if you don't believe me, you can contact her, or something, but shes very reliable, she knows EVERYTHING there is to know about John Lennon

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Liz, your friend might own Cynthia's book (so do I, so do a gazillion other people -- oh, and Cyn whitewashed a lot of the story), be a "True John Lennon Fan," and "know everything there is to know about John Lennon," but I somehow doubt that...I've been a Beatles/John fan for 28 years, and I wouldn't presume to say that! (I have over 150 books on John and the Beatles published over the last 38 years, lest you think I don't have information at my fingertips -- and there are a lot of people here who have even more info than I do.) Besides, ANY fan's "knowledge" of John only extends as far as the sources they use to get their information...the only person who MIGHT "know everything there is to know" would probably be Yoko, or to a lesser extent, Julian or Sean or Cynthia...

At any rate, not EVERY website is completely erroneous, nor is every book reliable...unless someone heard the info from John himself, it's unlikely ANY fan really "knows all there is to know."

BTW, a lot of the stuff Sophie posted I have read or heard from various "reliable" sources in the past.

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darkhorse

Jan 10, 2002, 06:30 AM

I agree, Susan. I'd say the only person who really knew John Lennon to that point was... well... John Lennon.

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ward

Jan 10, 2002, 10:40 AM

A few weird answers here on this one. John wore contacts? I didn't think contact were around (especially in Britain) until the 1970's. Even if he did wear them, they would have been way to expensive for him until they started making real coin (late 63-64). As for him sleeping with the light on because he hated the dark...how does anybody know that one, except may be Yoko or Cynthia? Same goes for the "Paul and John were never as close aas they appeared"...way to subjective a comment. How do you know? Did Paul tell you over at his house while having tea? Finally, most Beatle fans will agree that the death of their manager, Brian Epstien, started the dissention that would eventually break up the group.

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ImaginePeace78

Jan 10, 2002, 11:01 AM

I've seen those "facts." Someone told me, (I forgot who) once that those facts were from Albert Goldman. Some of them are strange (like the "hating the dark one" and "closeness" of John and Paul). Becareful what you read.
peaceflame-you're vision is 20/800? Can your vision be corrected?
I'm legally blind. (In some ways I'm like John, I guess, because I have to get really close at things to see them ---i.e. print, computer screen etc. and when people are standing right in front of me, I don't know who they are, even if I saw them the day before. To be considered "legally blind" one's vision has be 20/200 in both eyes and cannot be corrected. At least that's how I heard it. My vision in my left eye is 20/400, and I have none in my right eye. Glasses won't help, my retinas are too damaged.
About the contacts--I also read that John wore contacts in the early sixties, but hated them and put on his glasses. Oh well, but really read in between those "facts" so of them are off the wall.
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ImaginePeace78

Jan 10, 2002, 02:28 PM

That's great that the surgery worked for your aunt. It may work for you, too. When people see me at stores or where ever, sometimes they'll ask why I look so close at things (and not always in the nicest way), then they'll say that I need glasses or surgery (as if they're my doctor and know my needs). I tell them that neither glasses nor surgery would work. But I go along in life okay--some days are better than others.
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peaceflame

Jan 10, 2002, 04:37 PM

thats great that you tolerate it. i have a friend who has fibromayalgia (simply meaning, she hurts all the time) and it doesnt bring her down. i really admire people like that.

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peaceflame

Jan 11, 2002, 12:47 AM

yes, 20/800 in both eyes.(and i'm only 15! Arrggghh) i have no idea if it can be corrected by laser surgery, but i cannot LIVE without my contacts or glasses. i want to get the laser surgery, but i am scared because there are some negative effects. BUT, on the other hand, my aunt was 20/2000 (yes, two THOUSAND that is not a typo) and she had laser surgery and it came out 20/30. sooo, i might look into that when i am older.

so i'm not legally blind...yet. I FEEL legally blind. lol.

wow, Kristi that must be really hard for you...i cant imagine being in your situation. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/cry1.gif

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MaccaGirl

Jan 11, 2002, 03:30 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By peaceflame:
yes, 20/800 in both eyes.(and i'm only 15! Arrggghh) i have no idea if it can be corrected by laser surgery, but i cannot LIVE without my contacts or glasses.

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My uncle is an eye doctor or something like that and he says that usually people can't have laser surgery till they're older cos the eye is still growing.

And I know how you feel about the cannot LIVE w/o contacts or glasses. Today, my contact fell out in history and the teacher wouldn't let me find it or go put it back in so I was bumping into stuff like all day long.

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peaceflame

Jan 11, 2002, 09:56 PM

Lol. i got contacts in 6th grade, and i jsut got these really cool glasses a couple of months ago so i stopped wearing my contacts. Yeah, i know that you cant have surgery until you're older. i wouldnt want to now anyways, id be to figety and they would probably end up shooting the laser into my forehead!

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Jongo McHarrison

Jan 14, 2002, 12:58 AM

In 1996 I ordered some John Lennon stamps from the country of Chad through The International Collector's Society. With the stamps came a tiny booklet (a piece of paper folded in half) that was entitled '99 Little Known Facts About John Lennon'. This is definately what Lucy found on the internet although I don't know if what I was sent was handed down to the society from some other source. I was fascinated to learn such facts as "19.The Beatles did not confrom to the standard practice of having one star and a backing band" and almost fell out of my chair when I learned that "24.The Beatles haircuts were just as appealing as their music at first". Alot of the facts are preceeded by words such as "Supposedly" and "John may have". For instance, "65. Yoko had a miscarriage which was rumored to have been the result of a beating". Considering the fact that other items make mention of John attacking sailors and that he felt guilty about Stu's death which resulted from a beating, I got the feeling that this booklet was implicating John in Yoko's miscarriage, especially seeing as how other facts claim that "94.Lennon was a hypochondriac who suffered from many self inflicted pains and aches" and include other details purporting that he was a violent, unbalanced, self-destructive human being. Some of this stuff falls just short of "John liked to go to orphanges to remind children that Santa Claus didn't exist". I hope that I don't sound rude to Lucy, seeing as how all she did was discover something of interest and go to the trouble of sharing it with everyone, but alot of these items carry the stench of a Goldman or Guilliano.

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ImaginePeace78

Jan 14, 2002, 10:44 AM

Yep, I too, bought JL stamps in 1996 (from Tanzania (sp) though). Mine also came with a folded peice of paper entitled "99 Little Known Facts about John Lennon" or something like that. The more I read them, the more I believed they are laced with the two G's. (Goldman and Guiliano).
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