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Hari Krishna
May 13, 2003, 03:29 PM
Just thinking how they can do that?

Story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/746683.stm)

Strawberry Field gates stolen

The Beatles immortalised the spot in their 1967 hit

To the Beatles, Strawberry Fields were forever, but on Friday thieves in Liverpool had other ideas.
The 100-year-old wrought iron gates to the Strawberry Field Salvation Army children's home, catapulted to fame by the Fab Four, were cut down and taken.

Nearby children said they saw two men put the 8ft high gates into a blue Transit van and drive away.

Over the years, Strawberry Field has become a shrine, particularly to John Lennon who wrote the song in 1967.

Lennon's former playground

Thousands of fans from around the world have made the pilgrimage to the Woolton area of Liverpool to take photographs and scrawl messages on the perimeter walls.

It is believed the signatures of Lennon's sons Sean and Julian are among the graffiti.

John Lennon left money to the home in his will

The late singer-songwriter spent much of his youth playing in Strawberry Field, which was close to the Menlove Avenue home of his Aunt Mimi with whom he lived as a child.

The line "nothing to get hung about" was inspired by her warning not to play in the grounds, which in the 1940s and 1950s were sprawling and overgrown.

According to Beatles buffs, the young John would reply: "They can't hang you for it."

Beatles expert and Magical Mystery Tour guide Phil Cappell said he was devastated when he heard of the theft, saying the gates were a "national treasure".

"I have been livid ever since I heard about it earlier today. Strawberry Field is a major part of the tour and fans break down in tears when they arrive there.

"Now there is no focal point. I just hope those responsible realise what they have done and return the gates. I'd hate to think of them being melted down for scrap metal."

Plea for safe return

Mr Cappell said Strawberry Field always held a special place in John Lennon's heart, with the former Beatle leaving money to the home in his will.

An earlier donation also helped fund the home's Lennon Court - which houses 16 to 18-year-olds preparing to leave care.

Ray Collings, the Salvation Army's divisional public relations director, pleaded for the safe return of the gates. "Some of the children were playing in the grounds of the home and noticed some activity at the end of the drive.

"This is nothing unusual as many visitors to Merseyside have their photographs taken at the gates.

"Then the children noticed the gates were being moved and so went to inform members of staff who immediately went to the end of the drive only to find the gates were gone."

Mr Collings said the gates had been part of the home's identity since the Salvation Army started work there in 1936.

The 10ft wide gates are believed to be worth about £5,000.

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Hari Krishna
May 13, 2003, 03:32 PM
Post would be too long...But luckily they found it!

LINK (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/747459.stm)

Strawberry Field gates found

The Beatles immortalised the spot in their 1967 hit

The gates stolen from a Liverpool children's home made famous by the Beatles have been recovered from a scrap metal dealer.
Police said the dealer made contact after wide-spread publicity surrounding the disappearance of the wrought-iron gates from Strawberry Field on Friday.

Children reported men cutting down the 8ft high gates and driving them away in a Transit van.

The Salvation Army home, a childhood haunt of John Lennon, was immortalised in a 1967 Beatles song and has become a shrine for visiting fans.

John Lennon left money to the home in his will

It is believed the signatures of Lennon's sons Sean and Julian are among the graffiti scrawled on the perimeter walls.

The late singer-songwriter spent much of his youth playing in Strawberry Field's grounds, close to the Menlove Avenue home of his Aunt Mimi with whom he lived as a child.

The line "nothing to get hung about" was inspired by her warning not to play in the grounds, which in the 1940s and 1950s were sprawling and overgrown.

According to Beatles buffs, the young John would reply: "They can't hang you for it."

'Great news'

At first, it was feared that the 100-year-old gates might have been stolen to order for a Beatles fan.

After they were recovered, Beatles expert Phil Cappell said: "This is great news for Beatles' fans. It is what we had been hoping for. They are part of the heritage.

"I think serious consideration must now be given to the security of them.

"Our real worry was if they had been melted down or someone just thought they were too hot to handle and just threw them in the river. They would have been lost forever."

lennon4
May 13, 2003, 05:55 PM
Man oh man! Thank goodness those gates were found -- I haven't been to Liverpool, yet! I hope there wasn't too much damage...

-lennon4

MaccaOnTheRun
May 13, 2003, 06:18 PM
Gosh that scared me.. I'm glad they got them back! I would have been steamed if they were gone.. Just think.. Melting them. I can't even picture that. graemlins/afraid1.gif

Sgt.McCartney
May 13, 2003, 06:22 PM
Yeah, I guess the crooks didn't see how hard it was to hide a pair of gates...

sleepybomb
May 13, 2003, 06:40 PM
i am sooooooo glad they will be there when we go next yr!
now, are they gonna have to put up a gate to guard the gate? jeesh, i hope not. . . .

SF4-EVER
May 13, 2003, 07:06 PM
I thought this sounded familiar -- I checked the article, and it turned out to be from May 12, 2000. Not exactly news -- more like olds. images/icons/wink.gif

What do you think, BB? Shall we keep this topic open, or close it?

lennonluvr9
May 14, 2003, 05:03 AM
Well new news or old news I'm glad they were able to find them before anything bad happened to them. As I have not been to Liverpool yet I would be rather sad not to find them there.

LuvLennon
May 14, 2003, 07:58 AM
That's good news! A quick question though for anyone who knows, is the the Salvation Army home built in The grounds still there? I've seen pictures of it and it was a lovely victorian neo-gothic building but I read in a book ( A Hard Day's Write I think) that it had been demolished. The article though makes no mention of it. I would love to know that this historic bit of architecture was preserved instead of being senselessly demolished.

Hari Krishna
May 14, 2003, 02:50 PM
I think that the grounds have been demolished and the gates are all that's left.

HMVNipper
May 14, 2003, 03:04 PM
The grounds are still there, but I think the original building is gone. I know there's SOMETHING in there because a painting done by someone I know was donated to Strawberry Fields and is on display there, but I don't know the exact circumstances. I have a friend who lives in Liverpool who might be able to tell me; I'll ask him what he knows.

When I was in Liverpool in 1997 you could see some kind of a building in the distance inside the gates, but we weren't allowed to go inside.

[ May 14, 2003, 03:05 PM: Message Edited By: HMVNipper ]

HMVNipper
May 14, 2003, 04:37 PM
I got an answer from my Liverpudlian friend -- here's what he told me about Strawberry Fields:

It was was opened as a Salvation Army Children's Home in 1936. Initially a large Victorian mansion, but demolished in the late 60's. (so the large mansion would have been there when John was growing up but there would have been lots of places to get lost in the trees etc) John would go there with Mimi to join in the fun of the Summer Fete. John made a donation for the new annex which was opened in 1979. I have a photo somewhere of the old Victorian building ..

I'll try and dig out some pics of it as it is now, there's the main complex plus a new play area that was opened in 2000 ..

If he sends me the pics, I will try to post them here.

Siobhan
May 15, 2003, 02:03 AM
I actually went into Strawberry Fields a few years ago when I went to the Liverpool Convention. There was a kind of fete in the grounds, with stalls selling memorabilia. We were allowed inside one room for tea and strawberry cakes, but we obviously couldn't look around the rest of the building as it is still a children's home. It was a very nice day. I wouldn't say the building itself was beautiful or anything, but the grounds were nice and big, and it was kind of like stepping into history.

lennonluvr9
May 15, 2003, 04:49 AM
That sounds cool! I hope to see Strawberry Fields someday. And go to the Liverpool Convention as well images/icons/smile.gif

LuvLennon
May 15, 2003, 08:51 AM
Originally Posted By HMVNipper:
I got an answer from my Liverpudlian friend -- here's what he told me about Strawberry Fields:

It was was opened as a Salvation Army Children's Home in 1936. Initially a large Victorian mansion, but demolished in the late 60's. (so the large mansion would have been there when John was growing up but there would have been lots of places to get lost in the trees etc) John would go there with Mimi to join in the fun of the Summer Fete. John made a donation for the new annex which was opened in 1979. I have a photo somewhere of the old Victorian building ..

I'll try and dig out some pics of it as it is now, there's the main complex plus a new play area that was opened in 2000 ..

If he sends me the pics, I will try to post them here.<font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">Thanks for your expert digging Susan, though the old building is no longer there it's nice to know that the grounds are still filled with laughter and life instead of being lonely and deserted. But the fact that the Victorian structure is no longer there is still disappointing...it seems like there was no much concern in the 50's and 60's to preserve older architecture...from what my parents say everything was geared toward being new, modern, and consequently ugly!

L'Angelo Misterioso
May 16, 2003, 12:35 AM
I'm sure some of you have this book "A Hard Day's Write" by Steven Turner. There's a picture of that famous Strawberry Fields mansion. images/icons/smile.gif

Ruby Soho
May 17, 2003, 04:51 PM
Thanks for sharing that! images/icons/smile.gif

mccartneymaniac
May 24, 2003, 07:13 PM
stolen? that is pretty mean spirited of whoever did it.it has a special meaning to amny of us, my daughter's fave song is thatnone maybe someday we will get there hope they catch up to them and restore things.sad that nothing can be left alone someone thinks they have some right ot it.

May 24, 2003, 10:25 PM
What's AMAZING is it hasn't been stolen before this. In America, it wouldn't have lasted a week after Lennon's death. Sheesh, we had people trying to steal ELVIS'S BODY days after it was buried. We can't even keep the Blue Jay Way sign up.

LIVERPOOL must REALLY be made up of decent honest people like the song in Penny Lane. If it's missing, it'll be from out-of-towners.