PDA

View Full Version : Did Clapton Give McCartney Short Shrift?


shyGirl
Dec 02, 2002, 11:21 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,71859,00.html

More from the George Harrison memorial concert from Friday at London's magnificent Royal Albert Hall. Please see Saturday and Sunday's columns for parts 1 and 2 about this extraordinary event.

Much as he worked tirelessly to make The Concert for George a hit, Eric Clapton nevertheless made some enemies Friday night.

In his overzealousness to put on a perfect program, some of the musicians claimed he over-rehearsed them. More than a few noticed Billy Preston's fingers were swollen from putting in eight-hour days, six days a week for nearly three weeks. But apparently Clapton felt that if he was paying Preston he should adhere to the schedule.

Same for the other famed sidemen whom Clapton brought to the show including Jim Keltner, Jim Horn, Klaus Voorman, Ray Cooper, and Emil Richards among them — all names that appear on countless solo Beatles albums.

Jools Holland, the English Paul Schaffer who put together the shows and was musical director, is said to be furious that Clapton didn't thank him from the stage for all his hard work.

Clapton also didn't do much to make Paul McCartney feel good. McCartney doesn't take to not being in the spotlight — he took over both The Concert for New York and the Queen's Jubilee shows, for example.

As a Beatle and a friend of Harrison's long before Clapton, McCartney felt that he should be prominently featured in the show. But after his introduction by Ringo Starr, McCartney's ukulele rendition of "Something" — which he does on his tour — was circumvented by Clapton taking over mid-song and finishing "Something" as a rock number.

McCartney then performed a beautiful version of "All Things Must Pass" and then was demoted to a piano on the side of the stage. I watched him pretty much not strike the keys for the balance of the show, clearly seething over his tertiary role.

Ringo must have known how he felt, because he went out of his way to split from the after-party before Paul and wife Heather arrived. The McCartneys spent the shortest time possible — just minutes — maybe anticipating Clapton's arrival. (He never showed though.)

I asked Heather whether or not in the year or so since I'd seen her if she'd learned any Beatles songs. Last year she told me she didn't know any.

"Since Paul's been touring I've learned quite a few," she said. "Not all of them. But I recognize many of them now."

Because Heather is not Paul's age and does not share his history with the other musicians, she kind of fades back when there's hubbub around them.

I think people consider her standoffish, but she's not. She's letting McCartney do his thing. And in this case that meant getting in and out quickly. He did tell me he enjoyed doing the second song, and he made an effort to sign a couple of autographs before lighting out.

Meanwhile, Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson got their picture taken with May Pang and Tom Scott. May, who was John Lennon's girlfriend and Yoko Ono 's assistant in the early '70s, got confused for Ono by one of the British tabs. Rest assured, Ono was not in attendance at the Harrison tribute.

Of all the people who blew through the intimate after-party, Monty Python's Eric Idle was clearly the most moved and exhausted from the experience of the show. Harrison was his real best friend, and had produced the Python movie Life of Brian, Idle's Nuns on the Run, Terry Gilliam's Time Bandits, and other movies including the great Mona Lisa .

Idle told me: "George was the perfect producer. He just wrote the check and stayed out of everything. He just liked movies and wanted to see certain ones made."

Idle said he had indeed been with Harrison the day he died, which made this all the more difficult. He teared up when he talked about his friend.

"You think about how he was stabbed and survived that. He did it for Dhani . He wanted more time with his son and he wound up getting two more years." When I thanked him for doing the show, Idle said, grimly, "I did it for myself."


------------------
http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/rocknroll.gif

Song of the moment-Yer Blues

shyGirl's Hideout (http://www.geocities.com/smw15/index.html)

"I get shy when they start to stare."

Siobhan
Dec 03, 2002, 01:31 AM
That was such a nice quote from Eric Idle. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/cry1.gif

I don't know if these reports are true or not, but I think if Eric Clapton did over rehearse everyone I would imagine it was because he wanted everything to be just right for such a special evening - and he succeeded! For anyone who is angry because they were not publicly thanked, or because they didn't get enough of the stage, they should remember what the evening was in aid of. It wasn't meant to be about egos or anything else, it was a celebration of George and his music.

Again, I don't know if what is said is true, or if it is exaggerated which is what happens so often in the press.

------------------
"With our love we could save the world"

taxgirl
Dec 03, 2002, 04:22 AM
What a story http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsdown.gif
As Siobhan said, this concert wasn't about ego's, everyone on stage seemed equal. They were there for one thing only: to play George's music.
Clapton did not take over 'Something'. Paul just started the song on the uke and the band joined in later. It was fantastic!

If you want to be negative I think you can always find (or make up) something.



------------------
Being The Beatles was like a suit that we wore for that periode of time, but that isn't us really. None of us are what we appear to be.
Our true nature is looking to re establish that which is within.
All knowing. ~George~

bitagirl
Dec 03, 2002, 04:28 AM
Nice quote from Eric Idle,
the rest I hope is over exaggeration and that egos didn't come into play that night...

------------------
"Be kind, be real, or get out of my face." - Pete Townshend

Nerk Sister
Dec 03, 2002, 04:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By taxgirl:
What a story http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsdown.gif
As Siobhan said, this concert wasn't about ego's, everyone on stage seemed equal. They were there for one thing only: to play George's music.
Clapton did not take over 'Something'. Paul just started the song on the uke and the band joined in later. It was fantastic!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Paul mentioned on the Rockline Radio interview that "Something" was going to start off on uke and then the band would join in, so this was obviously planned way in advance. Also, one of the reviews I read said Paul gave Eric a big bear hug at the end of the concert, so why would he hug him if he was seething as this article suggests.


------------------

Rellevart
Dec 03, 2002, 04:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By shyGirl:
Jools Holland, the English Paul Schaffer <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OUCH!!!! What a mean-spirited article about such a lovely event. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/frown.gif

------------------
I go back so far, I'm in front of me...

Danoota64
Dec 03, 2002, 10:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By Rellevart:
OUCH!!!! What a mean-spirited article about such a lovely event. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/frown.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hey, it's Fox News!http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/barf5.gif They obviously missed the WHOLE point of the evening - they were just looking for dirt. (*^$%$#&%#@@#!!)

http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/peace.gif

------------------
"Although I laugh and I act like a clown/Beneath this mask I am wearing a frown." - I'M A LOSER (64)

HariScruff_00
Dec 03, 2002, 03:18 PM
a few obvious points i just need to get off my chest:
This writer seems to have a bit of a problem with Clapton in general.
"More than a few noticed Billy Preston's fingers were swollen from putting in eight-hour days, six days a week for nearly three weeks."
Maybe Preston was willing to put in enough work that his fingers were swollen- he was a very close friend of George's!! It doesn't mean that Eric was an a$$hole to him and forced him to practice.
It ain't too hard to miss all the anti-Clapton spins put into it.
"Clapton also didn't do much to make Paul McCartney feel good. McCartney doesn't take to not being in the spotlight — he took over both The Concert for New York and the Queen's Jubilee shows, for example."
First off it was the Concert for GEORGE, not Paul (this is not meant against Paul). Yeah, Paul does like being in the spotlight-- but the spotlight wasn't meant to be on anyone BUT GEORGE! It also doesn't mean that Paul was somehow mad at Eric for not letting him "take over"! what an ignorant thing for this guy to suggest that Eric was wrong in not giving Paul more attention!

------------------
Hey man let's go out and get some Wisdom.
You can take a Horse to the Water
But you can't make it drink.

jtal909
Dec 03, 2002, 03:45 PM
This guy doesn't understand musicians.
If I had the chance to play with those guys I would gladly play until my fingers got swollen.
I do that with my own band...

------------------
"Why don't you say it in your famous James Mason impersonation?" www.billyshearsband.com (http://www.billyshearsband.com)

beatlegirl9977
Dec 03, 2002, 08:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By shyGirl:
Idle said he had indeed been with Harrison the day he died, which made this all the more difficult. He teared up when he talked about his friend.

"You think about how he was stabbed and survived that. He did it for Dhani . He wanted more time with his son and he wound up getting two more years." When I thanked him for doing the show, Idle said, grimly, "I did it for myself."


<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Awww......Great quote! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

------------------
Beatlegirl's World (http://beatlegirl.tripod.com) -- Home of fan fics "The Beatles: Live at 12 Cold Creek Street" and "Days in the Life"

Paul_McCartney2002
Dec 03, 2002, 09:39 PM
after having read this, I would hope there were no ego's on that stage. it was all about George that night. I can't understnd why Ringo wouldn't want to hang out at the party to see at lest Paul(hope they aren't in a fight).

------------------
" I'm really glad that most of the songs dealt with peace and understanding. There's hardly any one of them that says: 'Go on kids, tell them to sod off, leave your parents.' It's all very 'All you need is love'. There was a good spirit behind it all, which I'm very proud of. Anyway it were a grand thing, The Beatles"
Paul McCartney

angelgodiva
Dec 03, 2002, 09:45 PM
According to May, who emailed me Monday about the after party at Friar Park, both Paul and Eric Clapton were there and everyone had a lovely time. This reporter seems to be trying to create a problem which wasn't really there.

------------------
And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.

[This Message Has Been Edited By angelgodiva On December 03, 2002 09:45 PM]

beatlewho01-02
Dec 04, 2002, 04:17 PM
http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/rolleyes.gif Good thing I don't watch Fox so much. You know, I actually used to think that Bill O'Reilly was not a spinner(in the beginning of the show he says "Caution, you're about to enter the No-Spin zone) but then I just realized that he is just a yo-yo with a lot of hot air. No-Spin zone. Baloney.

------------------
"Don't cry
Don't raise your eye
It's only teenage wasteland."
The Who's Baba O'Riley

AmericanBeatle
Dec 10, 2002, 08:29 PM
Yeah, you'd think, or maybe hope is a better word, that as the two surviving members, Starr and McCartney would WANT to hang with one another. Remember how the four of them used to say that they felt sorry for Elvis because he had no one else who could relate to him and his celebrity, well, now they are not four but two and that makes them even more special than either one of them already are.
As far as Clapton doing anything in that article, I saw no quotes from any of the participants so it is my unlearned opinion that it was just a bunch of malarky created to sell a paper or magazine or whatever it was. I know McCartney likes the spotlight, but it's not his style to be so selfish and small.
I only wish I had seen the concert.
Anyone know when it was on, or if it is out on tape?

Siobhan
Dec 11, 2002, 03:06 AM
Originally Posted By AmericanBeatle:

Anyone know when it was on, or if it is out on tape?<font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">The concert hasn't been shown on TV, but there are plans for it to be released on video/DVD, but it hasn't been announced when this will be yet. graemlins/smile1.gif

AmericanBeatle
Dec 11, 2002, 05:22 AM
Thanks, Siobahn.
I appreciate your taking the time to tell me this. I'll keep an eye out for it! graemlins/sgtpepper.gif

[ Dec 11, 2002, 05:23 AM: Message Edited By: AmericanBeatle ]