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shyGirl
Aug 08, 2002, 10:55 AM
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/08/06/news_pf/Artsandentertainment/More_blues_for_Beatle.shtml

More blues for Beatles fan
Now Sony sends John Fontana a stern warning over his latest Web site.
By JEANNE MALMGREN, Times Staff Writer

© St. Petersburg Times, published August 6, 2002


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Now Sony sends John Fontana a stern warning over his latest Web site.
PALM HARBOR -- John Fontana got bad news in the mail again Monday. Another mammoth corporation bristling over his love of the Beatles.

Until recently Fontana, 22, was Webmaster of a 3-year-old site called beatlelyrics.com. It featured album covers, song lists, lyrics and band photos. For Fontana, who has been hearing-impaired for the past five years, it was a way to keep alive his love of the Fab Four and to connect with other fans. Nothing was sold on the site.

As reported in the St. Petersburg Times Sunday, Fontana, who lives in Palm Harbor, received a letter from a law firm representing Apple Corps. Ltd., the Beatles' corporate entity. The letter told him to get rid of the logos and album covers on the site because their presence violated copyright. It gave him one week to comply. Fontana dismantled the site and replaced it with a logo-less version at fab4lyrics.stonegauge.com.

Monday, another certified letter arrived, this one from Sony/ATV Music Publishing. Sony/ATV and Michael Jackson jointly own the lyrics for all Beatles songs.

"This reprint of the Lyrics without express authorization from Sony/ATV has caused and continues to cause Sony/ATV great and irreparable injury and is in direct violation of Sony/ATV's rights; this will not be tolerated," the letter read.

Fontana, still smarting from the skirmish with Apple Corps., was enraged.

"How am I injuring them?" he said. "I help make the song catalog worth more by helping support the market for them."

Representatives of Sony/ATV declined to comment.

Other Beatles-related Web sites feature lyrics and logos. Fontana thinks he was targeted by the legal watchdogs because his site was heavily visited, with an average of 1,000 hits a day. He sees the legal threats as unfair to fans who simply want to share the words of songs they love.

"It's like fans have no rights, besides being consumers," he said.

As of Monday afternoon Fontana's new site still contained lyrics for songs from Yellow Submarine to A Hard Day's Night. Fontana was unsure what to do next.

The letter from Sony gave Fontana a phone number to call if he had any questions.

The only problem: His hearing impediment makes using a telephone nearly impossible.



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Nerk Sister
Aug 08, 2002, 03:09 PM
This seems really unfair to me. I feel sorry for this guy. There are hundreds of other sites on the web that have lyrics (and I'm sure album covers.) I don't think he is hurting anybody.

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Clark Kent
Aug 08, 2002, 05:06 PM
That's really tough on that guy.

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bearkat77
Aug 08, 2002, 09:08 PM
Why can't they just "let it be" and leave John alone.

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StrawberryShorty
Aug 08, 2002, 09:45 PM
This is terrible.

I for one, ALWAYS visit lyric sites online. They can come in real handy when trying to sing along to words you can't quite understand!

I feel for John too. This is just pitiful.

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Miss O'Dell
Aug 09, 2002, 08:51 AM
I have heard of Apple shutting down lots of website- some just Fan sites and non prifitmaking- just cos of stupid copywrite. Not got enough money yet fellas?! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/angry2.gif

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Nerk Sister
Aug 09, 2002, 02:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By angelgodiva:
Side note: Jason is getting a cochlear implant at the end of the month and might be able to hear again. Please, everybody keep your fingers crossed for him!

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I will be thinking about your friend. I hope it works out for him!


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HMVNipper
Aug 09, 2002, 02:45 PM
All good thoughts and prayers for Jason, Angel...I hope the implant works!

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MithrilGuitar
Aug 09, 2002, 07:35 PM
:: Crosses fingers for Jason ::
I hope it works out well for him!

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angelgodiva
Aug 09, 2002, 07:50 PM
Thanks a lot, everybody. He really wants to hear The Beatles again, he tells me that all the time. He's a wonderful guy and he just loves them so much. I appreciate your support for him, and I'm sure he will, too--I'll tell him tonight. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/angel2.gif

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angelgodiva
Aug 10, 2002, 12:42 AM
Interestingly, I have a friend in California (coincidentally, he is deaf) who is a member of a couple of Beatles sites, and just like this guy, he just LOVES the Beatles. My friend went deaf in 1972, when he was 18, and he still loves to read and quote the songs.
Anyroad, this guy (his name is Jason)was asked by the webmaster of the site to stop putting song lyrics in his postings, because he is worried about all this. My friend is really sad, because he can't hear the music anymore, and he loves to quote those lyrics.
That's how far-reaching this has all become, though.
Side note: Jason is getting a cochlear implant at the end of the month and might be able to hear again. Please, everybody keep your fingers crossed for him!

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Sexy_Sadie
Aug 11, 2002, 12:13 AM
I hope everything goes well for your friend, Angel!
Is posting ANY band's lyrics 'illegal', or just bands owned by certain companies, such as Sony? If Apple and Sony are so worried about lyrics being posted, why don't they make the Beatles an official site, other than the "1" site, which provides lyrics? Or maybe they should reissue and remaster the Beatles' catalogue to inclue the song lyrics and more info about the recordings in the CD booklets. Has anyone else felt that the CD booklets are seriously lacking? Sure, they're authentic, like the records, but booklets like the one included in Live At The BBC just add so much to the CD.

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LivingInTheMaterialWorld
Aug 11, 2002, 10:02 AM
How come this site hasn't been "dismantled"? I c the Apple logo everywhere.

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