Beatles guru promises peace for cash

[SF4-EVER]

LINK (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020704/od_uk_nm/oukoe_people_maharishi_1) to story.

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Beatles guru Maharishi Mahesh Yogi has said in a July 4 message to Americans nervous about new September 11-style attacks that he could kill world terrorism with love -- but he would need $1 billion (627 million pounds) to do it.

"July 4 could be a great day for freedom," Maharishi, who brought Transcendental Meditation to the West more than 40 years ago and is a spiritual inspiration to some 6 million people worldwide, said in a conference call on Wednesday from the Netherlands.

Maharishi said that with $1 billion he could train 40,000 expert meditators, or "Vedic Pandits", who would generate enough good vibes to save the world. His press office said $85 million toward that goal had already been raised.

The guru has largely shunned the public eye for the last 20 years, but is now determined to drum up support for his concept of "Natural Law -- the Constitution of the Universe."

"I am setting up groups of knowers of this total knowledge of natural law, here, there and everywhere, particularly large groups in India, which is the seed for total knowledge of natural law," Maharishi said.

"I have confidence that India will be the lighthouse for total knowledge. From there this total knowledge will radiate in the whole family of nations ... that would generate a powerful influence of peace that would spread throughout the whole world and neutralise the stress, the hatred and tensions that fuel terrorism and war today."

Maharishi also criticised the U.S. response to terror attacks. "Bush's war on terrorism pushes the world toward destruction," he said. "This promotes the birth of an enemy."



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[**DONOTDELETE**]

Why doesn't he send his "good vibes" to the Vedic Pandits to make them work for free?

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[HeyBeatle]

If that would really work then why haven't they done this meditation for free in order to create world peace for all.

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[Sexy_Sadie]

Yeah exactly. What is this 1 billion needed for anyways in the training process? Thanks for the article though, it was interesting.

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[Harbidge]

I thought all that religious stuff he preaches so heartedly about teaches possession-free lives and that it's a sin to be greedy. What does he need $1bn for anyway if all he's going to do is meditate? Buy a really expensive blanket to sit on?

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[FiendishThingie]

All he would need to do is set a date & time! I'd be happy to meditate for the cause for free. LOL! I still don't trust this guy!

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[LuvLennon]

I really don't see how the Maharishi can still be seen as a creditable person, or how he can see himself as so important. His ideas regarding meditation and love were embraced by the Beatles, but they dropped him when they realised he was really money hungry and publicity hungry, making the most of his connection to them. I don't know why he thinks people be willing to give him so much money with his past reputation!

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I suggest you all go to www.cnn.com/TRANSRIPTS/0205/12/lklw.00.html (http://www.cnn.com/TRANSRIPTS/0205/12/lklw.00.html) to read the recent interview from larry king live.. Maharishi is still an awesome influence and inspiration..If only more people would realise and follow the "Natural law" of things..which exsists regardless of what we say, instead of war mongering and engaging in shot gun politics, the world, both in temporary and eternal senses would be a far better place..the 1 billion is for training, and promotion - getting the message out.. really its just an arbritary figure selected, i presume for its symetrical and symbolic value..i also believe he does this to get a response from people like we see here..if u even question the price for what he is offering, you obviously dont want it..its not about the money at all..really would 1 billion be much to pay for world peace and tranquility??? You only have to look at the US defence budget, to realise who the real loony is.. and contrary to what was said, while john certainly may have renounced him , George, and even Paul stay in touch... George in particular was very active in promoting Maharishi's Natural law party, and the vedic pandits!!! but then again, im biased LOl!!!

Go yogic flyers!!!

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[Hari's Chick]

Maharishi~ Yes, I very much agree!! You expressed what I was feeling, as well. I read about George still keeping in touch, even very recently going to see Maharishi with Depak Chopra. George, being an astute (& at times highly cynical) fellow..hehehe...well, I trust his judgement implicitly!! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif Hope Maharishi's efforts get somewhere...

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[Harbidge]

John Lennon wasn't a billionaire yet he still managed to pay for the huge "WAR IS OVER (if you want it)" billboard campaign.

Surely if the Maharishi was that popular then surely his followers would meditate for peace for free? Why would they need a cash incentive?

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I knew i could count on you Hari's chick!! Harbidge, the people arent being paid to meditate..its not about the money at all..really your missing the point!!! but it does take money to set up training centres, education, and quadruple the exsisting yogic flying programmes.. i think Maharishi chose the 1 billion figure to draw attention to how NO MONEY is being given towards peace..really the 1 billion figure is ridiculous, and he certainly doesnt expect to really get it..by saying 1 billion, he shows how little money is being spent towards peace..absolutely nothing..compare that to the hundreds of billions spent on defence and weapons globally..makes you think doesnt it? (well hopefully) yogic flying and meditation is a way of combatting the negativity and ills of the world..but what is really needed is education..im so pleased to see Maharishi is becoming so active again, the most he has since the beatle years..I know John would even approve of his latest efforts , that i think says alot..

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"hope to get out of this place, by the lord Sri Krishna's grace.."

that link doesnt really work..but i srongly encourage everyone to go to CNN's website and look for the Maharishi interview..there is a link for for it on the abbey rd page aswell..it will be of great benefit, and youll actually be informed to talk about it!! and it will make you a better person too!!

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"hope to get out of this place, by the lord Sri Krishna's grace.."

[Lucy]

I have always thought he was dodgy after reading that stuff about him feeling up a chick at the retreat and smuggling in chicken when it was meant to be hard-out vege. He ever so slightly grosses me out.

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[SF4-EVER]

I'm not sure that story about him making advances towards one of the female students is true -- I've heard that one of the Beatles' hangers-on (I think it was Magic Alex) told that story to John to counteract the Maharishi's influence over the Beatles.

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yeah, its not true.. Cynthia Lennon says its rubbish, George too..as for the chicken thing, i havent heard it before, but i know its ABSOLUTE RUBBISH!!!! he's purely vegetarian for his whole life.. the only one smuggling anything in was John and Paul in Rishikesh, with some liquor!!!!

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"hope to get out of this place, by the lord Sri Krishna's grace.."

[m]

funny how ppl fight about ideas of peace...calm down everyone!
who cares who is right or wrong
ooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!
(hey! that rhymes! hehe!!!)
anyway, i know everyone is just having a friendly discussion, expressing their beliefs, that's cool...so i'll add my own thoughts...(thinks very hard for a long time)...bugger lost my train of thought!

ah yes!
whether or not Marharishi really is money or publicity greedy (i don't know much about him but will try to find out soon as it sounds facinating) i hope when the meditation starts that everything will turn ou for the better!

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[Harbidge]

I apologise if I may have offended anyone. If people choose to live by the teachings of the Maharishi then I fully accept their chosen path in life just like I'd expect the same kind of acceptment for my chosen pathways in life. Although I don't agree with what the Maharishi is preaching, I am not saying it's wrong. Please remember that when I'm providing my opinion http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif.

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Dont worry, no offense is taken!!! Most people think the Maharishi is a crackpot anyway..But as always, i have found to never judge a book by its cover..LOL!!


"For a Forest to be green, every tree must be green" - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

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[Hari's Chick]

Harb~ No offense on my part, either! I follow Yogananda & SRF, anyway, but read a bit of everything Eastern, especially folks George endorsed. There are many of those, of course, and one of them is Maharishi. I kind of recently learned about George staying in touch with him, so I am keen, in fact, to learn more about him! I have found George to be a beautiful judge in terms of sifting out "shoddy Gurus"...so I really do trust his judgement. There is a funny story about how he was asked by Prabhupad's folks for like $20,000 to publish the "Krsna" book. He was very cynical at first. It's a great story. I'll look for the link!

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[m]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By Harbidge:
I apologise if I may have offended anyone. If people choose to live by the teachings of the Maharishi then I fully accept their chosen path in life just like I'd expect the same kind of acceptment for my chosen pathways in life. Although I don't agree with what the Maharishi is preaching, I am not saying it's wrong. Please remember that when I'm providing my opinion http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif.

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wow u ppl r so caring of other's feelings, my old high school friends were nice but never this nice! gosh i love u guys!

*m gives all a huge hug*

this topic is so cool!!!!! and i can't wait till u find the link hari's chick!

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[Hari's Chick]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By m:
i can't wait till u find the link hari's chick!

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Yeah! Here it is... http://www.geocities.com/priitaa/InspNewsL/fortyeight.htm
Hope this link works...anyway, it is from the GH Inspirational Newsletter, and the story is under "Memories of GH" by Shyamasundar Dasa. It's great! Maybe I can post a little bit of it?? I'll try....

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[Hari's Chick]

Okay...here is a teaser! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/wink1.gif

"The following memories of George Harrison by Shyamasundar dasa were recorded in Vrndavana, India in November of 1999. They were part of Shyamasundar's memories of Srila Prabhupada who obviously had a great influence on George's life:

Prabhupada treated George like an old, old, friend. (Tears up) I spent some time with George this summer. I'm talking 1999, now. And George has reached a very high level of spiritual development, I am happy to say. He chants Hare Krishna every day. And he is totally serene and he has accepted life as it is. He has actually achieved a much higher level of self-realization that I can ever hope to achieve. He is peaceful and serene to a degree that is rare in a person, and at such a young age. Same age as I am. Prabhupada benefited him so mcuh I mean he knew the buttons to push and not to push because of their natural hesitancy to have anything public to do with Prabhupada because they would see us then as just going after their money or their fame and not giving them the real thing. So I tried and Prabhupada, by his example, showed me the way to treat them is like this; Always just keep giving them stuff. Never ask them for anything.

Although one time, Prabhupada did call me into his room and said, You know we only have one book. We have Bhagavad-gita, that's it. And maybe there was Nectar of Devotion. He said, Krishna Book has been finished for some time and I got news today that it is ready for publication. How can we publish? We need this book. He said, I want you to go and ask George for the money for this book. So, then I said, Aww, no, Prabhupada."



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Caryl Starling of the Muppets walks over and presents Arias with a stuffed replica of Kermit the frog. "Look, he's doing one of our meditation techniques," Arias says, sitting Kermit in the Lotus position and placing his hands over his eyes. "He's blissed-out."

[SF4-EVER]

Thanks, HC. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsup2.gif

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[Lucy]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi:
yeah, its not true.. Cynthia Lennon says its rubbish, George too..as for the chicken thing, i havent heard it before, but i know its ABSOLUTE RUBBISH!!!! he's purely vegetarian for his whole life.. the only one smuggling anything in was John and Paul in Rishikesh, with some liquor!!!!

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OK Cynthia also reckons that she wasn't pregnant when she married John and George loved MMY so he was hardly going to believe anything too bad against him...don't be so quick to decide that the story is rubbish! And you've never heard about the meat story but it isn't true? Find out about it before you trust so much! The reason it is so shocking is that he was of course meant to be vegetarian.
I don't know - it all could be lies but I don't trust that guy and it is nothing to do with me opposing chosen paths or anything like that. I am fully into that stuff. I did meditation classes for months and months.


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[Hari's Chick]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By Hari's Chick:
I have found George to be a beautiful judge in terms of sifting out "shoddy Gurus"...
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Oops! When I reread this I realized it could look like I am saying Prabhupad was shoddy~ and I'm not!!! It was late when I was writing..hahaha. What I meant is that George was EVEN careful in endorsing Prabhupad at first. Sorry if it looked the other way!
And I'm glad you liked it SF4-EVER!!! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif You're very welcome!


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Caryl Starling of the Muppets walks over and presents Arias with a stuffed replica of Kermit the frog. "Look, he's doing one of our meditation techniques," Arias says, sitting Kermit in the Lotus position and placing his hands over his eyes. "He's blissed-out."

[m]

thanks for the link hari's chick!
i've put it on my fav list for future reading, as my dad will kill me if i don't go to bed soon!

love m!

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[Tim]

As far as the Mia Farrow stuff,I don't beleive it.
What i think is,they thought they were going to be given "the answer" ahead of anyone else because they were Beatles...they weren't going to get the answer one second ahead of anyone else so they gave up and left.


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[LivingInTheMaterialWorld]

Well, I don't know about u guys...but I'm sending the Maharooni 1 billion in cash RIGHT NOW!!!

*eyeroll*

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[LivingInTheMaterialWorld]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>What does he need $1bn for anyway if all he's going to do is meditate? Buy a really expensive blanket to sit on?
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[dav-here]

And if it doesn't work, do we get our money back??

"For the god I believe in isn't short of cash, mister!!"--Bono, from the movie, "U2: Rattle and Hum"

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[Clark Kent]

The Maharishi still hasn't got his yet. It's only a matter of time.

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[MithrilGuitar]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi:
i think Maharishi chose the 1 billion figure to draw attention to how NO MONEY is being given towards peace..really the 1 billion figure is ridiculous, and he certainly doesnt expect to really get it..by saying 1 billion, he shows how little money is being spent towards peace..absolutely nothing.

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If he wanted to draw attention to it, why didn't he just say it? And there are plenty of people who would be willing to meditate for peace. Somebody should just declare a "Meditate for Peace" day and people could just meditate for free by themselves. And of whom was he asking the money? The article wasn't too clear...

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[SleepyHead]

The Maharishi is a crank, pure and simple.

First off, if that many folks meditating, promoting peace, etc, were all that's necessary, this world would already have been a peaceful place.

Second, peace is neither a commodity you can buy, nor are peacemongers up for sale. If I have to pay someone to teach or to learn how to be peaceful, something's rotten in Denmark.

Anyone who has ever been around children from their infancy will testify that no matter how peaceful the environment, children squabble. It's a fact of life, and not a very peaceful one at that. And sometimes, you gotta swat the little buggers on the behind to get their attention.

I'm not sending the Maharishi one red cent, and anyone who does would do far better to begin praying or meditating or observing whatever particular peaceful religious practice they are accustomed to doing.

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[FiendishThingie]

I'm sorry, too! I said I didn't trust MMY & it's from personal experience, too. I don't mean that he's totally dishonest.

Well, rather than dig myself in further, please just accept my apology.

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[Hari's Chick]

This is interesting...
"The Maharishi really was a wonderful teacher," recalls Cynthia. "His lectures and talks were humorous, enlightening, and provided truly halcyon days. John and George, particularly, were in their element. They through themselves totally into the Maharishi's teachings, were happy, relaxed and above all found a peace of mind that had been denied them so long."

Then from Paul...
"Were they disillusioned with the teaching? they were asked upon their return. 'No,'-said Paul, 'just a little homesick.' "
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[This Message Has Been Edited By Hari's Chick On July 30, 2002 05:26 PM]