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FiendishThingie
Dec 06, 2001, 11:38 AM
Harrison's Ashes a Mystery
by Josh Grossberg
Dec 5, 2001, 1:15 PM PT

It seems George Harrison remains as secretive in death as he was in life.

It has been nearly a week after the Quiet Beatle's passing, but the mystery over his final resting place continues to grow as officials in India are now denying widespread reports that his family was planning to scatter Harrison's ashes in his spiritual homeland.

"I think the whole story is a creation of the media," Vikram Singh--the inspector general of police in the city of Varanasi, the supposed destination of Harrison's ashes--tells Reuters. "You are running a wild goose chase."

Representatives of the Hare Krishna movement in Varanasi said last weekend that Harrison's wife, Olivia, and his son, Dhani, would arrive in the Asian subcontinuent early Tuesday to disperse the rock legend's ashes in the sacred Ganges River.

(Per Hindu tradition, relatives usually sprinkle the ashes of their loved one over the surface of the Ganges before submersing the urn gently into the water.)

But Singh says the local government had not been informed about Harrison's last rites, as is customary. "As far as the administration is concerned, I don't think there's anything happening because normally any important people would seek official assistance even for a private ritual," said Singh.

He also said officials have received no information regarding the musician's family arriving on any special flights or scheduled airliners from Delhi or Bombay, the main connecting airports.

Even more mysterious, though, is the about-face of Hare Krishna spokesman Arajit Das, who just days ago confirmed that Harrison's family was on their way to attend a Tuesday morning ceremony along the Ganges. He now says he heard wrong.

"Whatever I can tell you is on the basis of newspaper reports because there's no communication either from our ISKCON [International Society for Krishna Consciousness] offices in Delhi or London, who are equally clueless about any plans to bring Harrison's ashes to Varanasi for immersion," Das tells Reuters.

To compound the intrigue, a government official in Varanasi's state of Uttar Pradesh says the ceremony may have already taken place.

Harrison's family and friends have not commented except to say that they held a private funeral service hours after his death last Thursday afternoon.

The 58-year-old Harrison died last Thursday in Los Angeles after a long battle with cancer. According to his death certificate, his body was cremated within hours after his passing, per Hindu tradition. Harrison had converted to the faith in the '60s and became an adherent of the Hare Krishnas, a sect of the religion.

Two Hare Krishna representatives reportedly performed Hindu rites on Harrison's ashes in London, and were said to be accompanying Olivia and Dhani to India.

As a show of gratitude, Harrison left nearly 10 percent of his fortune--valued at more than $300 million--to the Hare Krishnas, according to London's Times. The newspaper reports the money will be distributed by the International Society of Krishna Consciousness to each of its temples around the world.

While the majority of his estate will go to his wife and son, Harrison also donated a portion of his future earnings from his music to the Krishnas. Millions of dollars are also being given to British-based charities that aid impoverished children in Africa.


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"There was never a time when I did not exist, nor you.
Nor will there be any future when we cease to be." Sri Krishna

SF4-EVER
Dec 06, 2001, 04:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By RoshkaKru:
And the thing with the ashes; it seems to me that the ceremony of scattering ashes could very well have taken place right after the cremation without anybody knowing it!
Kru
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Hard to see how Olivia and Dhani could have gotten from California to India so quickly, especially with a stopover in London. Also, I remember hearing somewhere that they would have had to get offical permission to fly into the country, and apparently they haven't done that. Perhaps they either entered the country another way, or (what I'd probably do in their situation) maybe they're waiting for the fuss to die down so they can have the ceremony without a hundred reporters crashing it.

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beatlebangs1964
Dec 06, 2001, 07:24 PM
I think SF4-EVER is right. Her theory makes sense and given the situation, I will wager the Harrisons did just that.

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FiendishThingie
Dec 07, 2001, 12:09 AM
Another strange one...

Thursday, December 6, 2001

Harrison's death certificate deepens mystery
By JAM! Music
George Harrison's life-long obsession with privacy is extending beyond the grave, as observers attempt to unravel the mystery of where exactly he passed away.

Early reports had suggested that Harrison died at the home of Hollywood security expert (and confidant-to-the-famous) Gavin De Becker, but he told New York's Daily News that he wouldn't shed any light on the mystery.

"I'll honour the family's wish for privacy and confidentiality," De Becker told the paper.

Meanwhile, the new issue of Us Weekly reports that Harrison departed this mortal coil in a rented villa on Laurel Canyon Blvd., in the Studio City section of Los Angeles.

But The Smoking Gun website says Harrison's death certificate lists his "place of death" as 1971 Coldwater Canyon, and further that the building there was the residence belonging of his wife, Olivia.

The site said they checked that address against the Los Angeles tax assessor's records and found that no such address is listed.

The ghoulish can view Harrison's death certificate -- which lists the "name of funeral director" as Cremation Specialists Of L.A. -- at www.thesmokinggun.com. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com.)




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"There was never a time when I did not exist, nor you.
Nor will there be any future when we cease to be." Sri Krishna

RoshkaKru
Dec 07, 2001, 12:51 AM
ya' know...

the thing i don't understand is: okay, so Olivia and Dhani want the info about the proceedings after George's passing not to be made public.

So LET THEM!

And the thing with the ashes; it seems to me that the ceremony of scattering ashes could very well have taken place right after the cremation without anybody knowing it!

I think the media just can't settle their minds knowing they missed smth. important!

Kru

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FiendishThingie
Dec 07, 2001, 08:39 AM
Very possible, indeed!

Also... Do you think anyone in India would want to hide or cover it up to protect the Harrisons & give them more privacy?

Well, whatever... I certainly don't really need to know. It's just interesting to see how much info is running around out there.

The press is really amazing, yet they make me sick at the same time!

UGH!
FT

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"There was never a time when I did not exist, nor you.
Nor will there be any future when we cease to be." Sri Krishna

MaccaTwst9
Dec 07, 2001, 11:45 AM
I wonder if the reporters know paul's song "Let It be" ??

Whisper words of wisdom...Let It Be..


HELLO!! If I were the child of George Harrison, I would want my fathers grave a secret, even if he wasn't cremated, I would have put his body in a closed off section or something, because there are sickos out there who WILL dig up celebrity bodys..I mean christ look at Elvis, hes probably been dug up numerous times...and Jim Morrison has been moved around, and he has Cig butts and broken beer and wine bottles on his grave!! I would HATE to see Georges like that, in a way i'm glad George was cremated, lets just hope that his um..body..has a peaceful place to rest in the area or body of water that he wishs to reside in, all I want for George as a huge fan, is his urn with him in it, be in a safe place, where NOBODY can find it.


Rest in Peace Georgie


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~*Liz*~

**In Memory of George Harrison Feb 1943- Nov 2001**

SF4-EVER
Dec 07, 2001, 02:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By MaccaTwst9:
Jim Morrison has been moved around, and he has Cig butts and broken beer and wine bottles on his grave!!
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I think the cigarettes and bottles are supposed to be a tribute, actually.

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FiendishThingie
Dec 08, 2001, 12:24 AM
Yeah, MaccaTwist! I'm with you!

That's why I guess I thought the possibility of it floating down the river in India was a good one. No one can bother him there.

FT http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/wink3.gif


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"There was never a time when I did not exist, nor you.
Nor will there be any future when we cease to be." Sri Krishna