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Miss Nani Moonlight
Jul 12, 2010, 03:58 PM
Lady Gaga Photo Irks Beatles Fans
Posted Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:21pm PDT by Liana Maeby in Stop The Presses!
Lady Gaga's stirring up controversy yet again -- but this time all she did was play a little piano. A photo of the "Bad Romance" crooner seated at John Lennon's famous white Steinway recently hit the Web, and Beatles fans are up in arms.
John's son Sean Lennon posted the photo on Twitter with the caption: "With gaga at mom's house, she's belting on the white piano..." The instrument was a gift from The Beatles' frontman to Sean's mother, Yoko Ono, and it sits out in the open at Yoko's home.
In the pic, the singer wears typically skimpy Gaga-gear (a skintight body suit and thigh-high fishnets) while singing and tickling away at the keys. The image drew an outcry from some Beatles fans who considered Gaga unworthy of the iconic instrument.
One fan responded to Sean's Twitpic, saying, "WHY WOULD YOU LET LADY GAGA PLAY ON JOHN'S PIANO? I'm disappointed. >:("
To which the youngest Lennon replied, "pianos meant are to be played. Why is everyone so uptight? What should we do, lock it away in a dusty room? So judgmental..."
Sean eventually took the photo down and used his Twitter page to once again respond to the criticisms, saying, "Firstly, he gave that piano to my mother for her birthday, it is hers, secondly, he was not uptight the way you seem to be," adding, "Come on, lighten up...life's too short, there're enough real problems in the world...."
Lady Gaga may not have attained John Lennon's cult status yet, but she certainly knows how to play a piano. The pop star was classically trained in the instrument from the age of 4, to prodigal results. Gaga began giving concerts in elementary school and wrote her first keyboard ballad at 13 . The Lady continued her musical education through college, majoring in the subject at NYU.
The "Paparazzi" superstar is also a noted fan of John Lennon and The Beatles. While performing at the Human Rights Campaign's National Dinner in 2009, Gaga played Lennon's 1971 sensation "Imagine."
The song was meant as a tribute to the fallen heroes of the gay rights movement, Gaga explained, stating, "I'm not going to play one of my songs tonight, because tonight is not about me." Angry Beatles fanatics aside, it sure seems she's earned her place at those famous keys.
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Pepperland Kamer
Jul 12, 2010, 04:28 PM
I can't stand Lady Gaga at all. That said, it's not like she broke in the Dakota with a crowbar, shoved Yoko to the ground and started playing the piano. Lighten up folks, geez.
Loony_leo
Jul 12, 2010, 06:29 PM
I don't see why people are so up in arms about this.
It's Yoko's piano, (it was given to her by John) she's free to let whoever she wants touch it (or not touch it).
Plus, as Sean says Pianos ARE meant to be played. And a Steinway? That's a top of the line make of piano...what is she supposed to do, never ever touch it, let it get dusty and go out of tune as the years go by?
Gaga isn't too bad, not really. Her songs are pretty catchy, and she's got a pretty good voice. Sure, she's not the most amazing musician to come along, but she isn't the worst either. And at least she puts effort into being entertaining.
Also, the girl has talent. If you look at some of her pre-fame stuff, it's a lot less commercial and mainstream.
Finally, what an honour, for ANY musician to play a piano that John Lennon must have used?
Maggie Mae
Jul 12, 2010, 06:50 PM
Let's take a step back for a moment... what's the big deal?
What is the objection to Lady Gaga playing this instrument? She is a little strange, sure, but she's uber-talented. She's a top-selling artist, but she's respected within the artistic community for her music and her fashion sense. But that's not the point. I wouldn't even be upset if someone like Miley Cyrus was photographed playing that Steinway. It's not my place to get upset! It's none of my freakin' business!!! Like Pepperland Kamer said, it's not like she broke into the place to play it. She was invited in, and was obviously granted permission to play the piano. And what an honour!!!
Where in the world do we get off telling other people what they can and cannot do with their possessions? How can anyone justify being so protective of someone or something? Is it really that horrible? Can anyone justify getting upset over a beautiful musical instrument, once (and still) owned by a beautiful human being, being played beautifully by someone who not only owes a debt of thanks to The Beatles but who obviously respects and admires them and who is in turn fairly well-respected as a musician in her own right?
I don't think John would approve of all this nonsense...:nono4:
Serena
Jul 12, 2010, 07:54 PM
Is it the fact the piano was played that is angering everyone, or is it just because the player was Lady Gaga? I don't believe that it was last played by John before Gaga, its history has not been tarnished but now extended. Despite the fate of Gaga's career and remembrance, it may actually add value to the piano.
DizzymissLizzy909
Jul 12, 2010, 08:10 PM
I wonder if Gaga asked to play it, or if Yoko invited her in?
I think part of the anger may come from the disapproval of some for Lady Gaga's slightly outlandish style. I do know some people think she's an overplayed pop star, and may not "deserve" to be playing on the same instrument and compared to the talent of John?
I do hope she felt it was an honor to be in the home of our former Beatle, and to play on such a beautiful piano that was once played by one of the greatest performers in music history.
bobdude
Jul 12, 2010, 10:24 PM
Who cares? Play away. It's just a piano. Wonder how many of those 'outraged' fans would strum John's Rickenbacker if given the chance?
darkhorse23
Jul 12, 2010, 11:48 PM
How DARE her! She actually played JOHN'S piano. OMG, what is this world coming to?
Seriously, some folks need to get lobotomies. I agree with all of the previous posters except for #1 and the comment about Gaga actually ADDING to the value of the piano? It belongs(ed) to John & Yoko, it doesn't get more valuable than that!
hibgal
Jul 13, 2010, 12:41 AM
I don't think John would approve of all this nonsense...:nono4:If John was here he'd probably be a fan - if not of her music then at least of her irreverence! :devious:
Serena
Jul 13, 2010, 12:49 AM
Actually the piano only holds sentimental value for now until it is sold, then it would be up to the buyer to really determine its value and whether or not Gaga's moment on it devalues it or adds to it.
In My Life
Jul 13, 2010, 02:14 AM
You mean she can actually play and sing?:rolleyes:
CWW
Jul 13, 2010, 02:53 AM
to tell you the truth, i am mad. like, really, really, really, really, REALLY mad. but i applaud Sean for handling it so well. if i were him and she came into my house wanting to play my deceased father's famous piano, things would have gone bad pretty quickly. :devil7:
i don't know how Sean was able to pass it off so nonchalantly.
Sean's probably the one who invited her to the apartment in the first place..
people getting mad at a 'strange, Eccentric and highly talented woman "messing" with Johns music/piano again..sounds all to familiar.
CWW
Jul 13, 2010, 02:55 AM
Who cares? Play away. It's just a piano. Wonder how many of those 'outraged' fans would strum John's Rickenbacker if given the chance?
haha, too true, too true
Lucy
Jul 13, 2010, 03:47 AM
I think the reason people are so mad about this is that they think that John and any iconic image that attaches to him belongs to THEM and is sacred to THEM and that they hold the rights over that - even more so than his own family. I can understand the "she's not worthy" way of thinking but to absolutely play up and message Sean about it and start a big thing like this is just stupid.
I don't like Gaga but I'm not furious about this - I'm jealous I guess! She was clearly a guest there and had permission to play it - so much so that Sean actually took a picture of her doing so. So what's the problem? I guess it comes back to the "she's not worthy" thing.
Also Gaga would have realised that it was something of an honour to play that piano - she is such a John fan that she has that peace sign tattoo on her wrist in memory of him.
Miss Nani Moonlight
Jul 13, 2010, 06:11 AM
after reading the responses i suppose you all are right. at first i was initially angry because i didnt think about the situation in the right light. now i realize it IS yoko's piano; she can do what she wants with it. plus, i guess she was an invited guest.
i'm pretty much over it now, and i regret being angry in the first place. and as someone said, if john were here to see her, i just bet he'd be a fan.
Legs
Jul 13, 2010, 08:03 AM
You mean she can actually play and sing?:rolleyes:
Well yes, and write her own songs as well. I'd say she is one of the most talanted artists around nowadays, it doesn't always translate in the released songs tho.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laIr_d0hFB8&feature=related
I agree these fan reactions don't make sense.
TheEggman
Jul 13, 2010, 08:14 AM
what do they mean by his famous white piano. Is this the Imagine one? i thought george michael bought that.
Legs
Jul 13, 2010, 08:33 AM
You got the famous white one from the video clip, and the one he actually played "imagine" on.
hibgal
Jul 13, 2010, 08:40 AM
Whomever owns or has owned it, an instrument is still just an instrument, isn't it? The real inspiration to Imagine and any other Lennon song came from his mind and heart, not from some well crafted piece of equipment.
PepperlandFrog
Jul 13, 2010, 11:16 AM
You mean she can actually play and sing?:rolleyes:exactly, was gonna' say.
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3038/algladygagalennonpiano.jpg
Who cares? Play away. It's just a piano. Wonder how many of those 'outraged' fans would strum John's Rickenbacker if given the chance?yeah i kinda' see your point, except i wouldn't be dressed like a tart, or have a uber-dorky look on my face.
jtal909
Jul 13, 2010, 07:07 PM
big deal...
AeolianCadence
Jul 14, 2010, 05:35 AM
people getting mad at a 'strange, Eccentric and highly talented woman "messing" with Johns music/piano again..sounds all to familiar.
Yep!
I don't "get" Lady Gaga, but I agree with everyone else. She's friends with Sean and Yoko, they invited her to play the piano, good for her!
bobdude
Jul 14, 2010, 08:38 AM
How dare she! Not only is she playing John's piano (the nerve of her!)...... but it looks like she raided Yoko's 1970's retro clothes closet too! Anything for a photo op! LOLOL!
valerieinthegallery
Jul 14, 2010, 10:57 AM
SHOCK! HORROR! I DEMAND that John's piano is sealed inside a block of lucite IMMEDIATELY to prevent this vile pollution!
Yours in a straitjacket,
Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
PepperlandFrog
Jul 14, 2010, 12:10 PM
Yep!
I don't "get" Lady Gaga, but I agree with everyone else. She's friends with Sean and Yoko, they invited her to play the piano, good for her!there's nothing to get, evidently.
it gets worse. according to this site, starcasm.net (http://starcasm.net/archives/55487) this is the original caption to the photo:
[With gaga at mom’s house, she’s belting on the white piano…]
another insightful comment from starcasm.net : This is a disgrace. John Lennon is an icon and will live on forever. Lady Gaga is a garbage, no-talent artist who is famous solely based on shock factor... (http://starcasm.net/archives/55487/comment-page-1#comment-29867)I can't stand Lady Gaga at all. That said, it's not like she broke in the Dakota with a crowbar, shoved Yoko to the ground and started playing the piano. Lighten up folks, geez.i agree.Is it the fact the piano was played that is angering everyone, or is it just because the player was Lady Gaga? I don't believe that it was last played by John before Gaga, its history has not been tarnished but now extended. Despite the fate of Gaga's career and remembrance, it may actually add value to the piano.or it may add nothing. very insightful comment.Whomever owns or has owned it, an instrument is still just an instrument, isn't it? The real inspiration to Imagine and any other Lennon song came from his mind and heart, not from some well crafted piece of equipment.yes, that is true. i don't think anyone of us can speak for John or pretend his or yokos motivations.
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3585/lennonbedin1.jpg
Loony_leo
Jul 14, 2010, 07:04 PM
Let's take a step back for a moment... what's the big deal?
What is the objection to Lady Gaga playing this instrument? She is a little strange, sure, but she's uber-talented. She's a top-selling artist, but she's respected within the artistic community for her music and her fashion sense. But that's not the point. I wouldn't even be upset if someone like Miley Cyrus was photographed playing that Steinway. It's not my place to get upset! It's none of my freakin' business!!! Like Pepperland Kamer said, it's not like she broke into the place to play it. She was invited in, and was obviously granted permission to play the piano. And what an honour!!!
Where in the world do we get off telling other people what they can and cannot do with their possessions? How can anyone justify being so protective of someone or something? Is it really that horrible? Can anyone justify getting upset over a beautiful musical instrument, once (and still) owned by a beautiful human being, being played beautifully by someone who not only owes a debt of thanks to The Beatles but who obviously respects and admires them and who is in turn fairly well-respected as a musician in her own right?
I don't think John would approve of all this nonsense...:nono4:
Agreed!!!! Wholeheartedly
beatlebangs1964
Jul 14, 2010, 08:09 PM
Originally Posted by Maggie Mae
Let's take a step back for a moment... what's the big deal?
What is the objection to Lady Gaga playing this instrument? She is a little strange, sure, but she's uber-talented. She's a top-selling artist, but she's respected within the artistic community for her music and her fashion sense. But that's not the point. I wouldn't even be upset if someone like Miley Cyrus was photographed playing that Steinway. It's not my place to get upset! It's none of my freakin' business!!! Like Pepperland Kamer said, it's not like she broke into the place to play it. She was invited in, and was obviously granted permission to play the piano. And what an honour!!!
Where in the world do we get off telling other people what they can and cannot do with their possessions? How can anyone justify being so protective of someone or something? Is it really that horrible? Can anyone justify getting upset over a beautiful musical instrument, once (and still) owned by a beautiful human being, being played beautifully by someone who not only owes a debt of thanks to The Beatles but who obviously respects and admires them and who is in turn fairly well-respected as a musician in her own right?
I don't think John would approve of all this nonsense...
Amen, Sister Maggie! I agree wholeheartedly!
I just don't see what the big issue is about.
The piano belongs to Yoko and by rights it should be played and enjoyed. To play the piano John used for "Imagine" and other classics is an honor.
Chillax, folks! Lady GaGa just had the honor of playing that famous piano. Good grief!
HeyBeatle
Jul 15, 2010, 04:12 PM
I honestly couldn't care less, maybe it's because I have no issue with Lady Gaga, is she the best singer, songwriter, pianist in the world? No, but she's better than pretty much anything on in the Top 40 right now, but I think I'd feel the same way about anyone. It's not my piano so what do I care if the person who owns it allows someone to use it.
The funniest bit of it all is that because of the article making it seem like every Beatles fan is offended, I've had multiple people bring it up like they'll be teasing me on a soft spot.
beatlebangs1964
Jul 16, 2010, 09:55 AM
I have no issue with Lady GaGa either.
Good point, HB. It's Yoko's piano and Yoko can make whatever decisions she wants and it does not impact our lives nor does this hurt anybody. (Why would anyone be offended? Seems like a non-issue to me).
PepperlandFrog
Jul 26, 2010, 10:32 AM
I have no issue with Lady GaGa either. Thank you. :cool1:
someplace dude
Jul 29, 2010, 08:18 AM
I don't have a problem with it. I mean, it's a piano and why have it go unplayed? Now, if only there was some way I could play it....:laugh5:
twovirgins
Jul 30, 2010, 02:02 PM
exactly its just a piano and who cares just gaga publicity
I think Lady GaGa should play with the 80s band Ka Ja goo goo and the Goo Goo dolls
JudithKristen
Jul 30, 2010, 06:43 PM
I doubt I'll lose any sleep over this.
:)
lennonluvr9
Jul 31, 2010, 05:09 AM
Huh. Obviously most people dont care, me being one of them. I wonder how much criticism he actually got? Enough to make him respond to it I guess. But its interesting how the article makes it seem like there's a ton of Beatle fans out there who are outraged that Lady Gaga would DARE be in the same room with that piano much less touch it. :tongue1: Talk about exaggeration. There was only one person quoted in that article, after all.
edubeltran
Jul 31, 2010, 09:47 AM
I for one, enjoy Lady Gaga's songs.Secondly, I hate these headlines " Beatles fans this" and " Beatles fans that" . They should state " Some Beatles fans this" and " Some Beatles fans that". I see no problem whatsoever in her being invited to John's house by his widow and play the piano he actually gave Yoko, with her permission ( otherwise Sean wouldn't have posted the photo). Some people needs to get a grip!!!
Gary910
Aug 02, 2010, 05:09 PM
I would be less afraid of Gaga playing than Yoko doing some "art" piece on it. Yoko dancing on the keyboard or something...
I think people ought to lighten up. She didn't hurt it.
DizzymissLizzy909
Aug 03, 2010, 04:34 AM
Huh. Obviously most people dont care, me being one of them. I wonder how much criticism he actually got? Enough to make him respond to it I guess. But its interesting how the article makes it seem like there's a ton of Beatle fans out there who are outraged that Lady Gaga would DARE be in the same room with that piano much less touch it. :tongue1: Talk about exaggeration. There was only one person quoted in that article, after all.
Good question. Did they wait for more than one comment to come in before creating the article? I'm curious about what comments they originally received, since most of us here on an all-Beatles forum don't have much of a problem with it...
darkhorse23
Aug 03, 2010, 01:06 PM
I'm more pissed off at her for thinking she's a Constitutional Law expert and needed to comment on SB1070.
Of course, there is freedom of speech and she's entitled to her opinion, that doesn't mean I can't get pissed off at her.
beatlebangs1964
Aug 03, 2010, 01:59 PM
I doubt I'll lose any sleep over this.
:)
I know I won't. Frankly, I just don't see what the big deal is or why it is a problem for anybody. Good grief!
hibgal
Aug 04, 2010, 09:36 AM
Slow news day!
bluefox4000
Aug 04, 2010, 01:04 PM
I do not like GaGa at all but........It's a piano, you play it.....big deal.
Mick
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