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Clark Kent
Jun 09, 2010, 07:03 AM
So it's World Cup time again. How time flies! It seems like only yesterday when Italy won the trophy after Zidane's red mist. It's a big tournament for the African continent. I really hope that South Africa put it all together nicely and that it's a great month for the fans. The quality of the football isn't always great because club football, especially in Europe, is so tiring and the players are burnt-out by the time the World Cup arrives. Anyway, I hope we see great matches and great players. Any tips on who will win? I can't predict international tournaments at all. I think Brazil have a good chance. France have been written off so I'd watch out for them. Serbia would be my outsiders.

GROUP A
South Africa
Mexico
Uruguay
France

GROUP B
Argentina
Nigeria
South Korea
Greece

GROUP C
England
USA
Algeria
Slovenia

GROUP D
Germany
Australia
Serbia
Ghana

GROUP E
Holland
Denmark
Japan
Cameroon

GROUP F
Italy
Paraguay
New Zealand
Slovakia

GROUP G
Brazil
North Korea
Ivory Coast
Portugal

GROUP H
Spain
Switzerland
Honduras
Chile

Some links:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/default.stm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/worldcup2010

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/index.html

FPSHOT
Jun 09, 2010, 07:53 AM
I look forward to this.

I do not agree to what you say about the tiring and burn-out of the European teams.

Sure, many of them individual players have played a large number of matches throughout their seasons but like the Dutch and the Spanish have shown great performances the past weeks.

It will be a great tournament and I will be watching a lot of it with friends.

62hofner
Jun 12, 2010, 11:44 AM
U.S. 1, England 1.

:eyebrows:

Legs
Jun 12, 2010, 12:47 PM
Looking at the past, it's been pretty much Brazil, Germany, France and italy who won the cup. As Italy won last time I say this time Brazil will win again.

Serbia is also very good, and ofcourse Holland has a good team which is able to show some fantastic football and that can come far. But winning I am afraid not.

zipp
Jun 12, 2010, 01:23 PM
Looking at the past, it's been pretty much Brazil, Germany, France and italy who won the cup. As Italy won last time I say this time Brazil will win again.


Nope. France have only won the world cup once.So they're on the same level as England.
Uruguay and Argentina have both won twice and Argentina may well do it again.
Spain are looking good too.
Brazil are in a difficult group so I think it's dificult to predict for them at this stage.

62hofner
Jun 12, 2010, 06:44 PM
I'm thrilled that The U.S. wasn't eliminated today! That alone is reason to be happy. I don't have very high expectations.... but maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised to some degree.

Clark Kent
Jun 13, 2010, 04:43 AM
Robert Green - butterfingers :laugh5:

USA are a decent team. They've got a few good players and if the bigger teams don't take them seriously (like England last night) they can cause problems.

FPSHOT
Jun 14, 2010, 08:55 PM
Holland - Denmark 2-0

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62hofner
Jun 14, 2010, 09:52 PM
Holland - Denmark 2-0

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I see we've got a new and exciting "smiley"!

62hofner
Jun 15, 2010, 11:49 AM
LOL! Enough already with the goalie not stopping the goal!

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/blog/dirty-tackle/post/British-tabloids-blame-Canada-for-lovelorn-Green?urn=sow,248518

... and LO-frickin'-L!

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/blog/dirty-tackle/post/The-goals-from-England-vs-the-U-S-recreated-wi?urn=sow,248528

filmsyncs
Jun 18, 2010, 04:29 AM
I wasn't aware that the German Futbol Coach was the sixth Beatle ...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/27/article-0-01F6FBEF000004B0-831_468x850.jpg

62hofner
Jun 18, 2010, 09:12 AM
I wasn't aware that the German Futbol Coach was the sixth Beatle ...


Ha ha! Looks lie he's contemplating an Abbey Road crossing....

62hofner
Jun 18, 2010, 09:14 AM
We're still in it! Way to come back from behind, U.S.A.!

:beer3:

62hofner
Jun 18, 2010, 09:25 AM
I just read how team U.S.A. was ripped off by the "ref"! Oh, well... that's international sports for you!

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_sow_experts__8/ept_sports_sow_experts-808658848-1276878832.jpg?ymwPTUDD0_8KCZZQ

Legs
Jun 18, 2010, 09:29 AM
Serbia did remarkably wel. They can play good but they didn't show it against Ghana so I had little hope for this match against Germany. Holland again tommorow, it should be possible against Japan but you never know.

And I do think every team should play in Bavaria dresses from now on as some kind of protest against Fifa's ridiculous actions.

Legs
Jun 18, 2010, 09:30 AM
I just read how team U.S.A. was ripped off by the "ref"! Oh, well... that's international sports for you!

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Should have been 3-2, but it isn't the first time and it won't be the last time these mistakes are being made and a team gets cheated.

mluque125
Jun 18, 2010, 09:37 AM
ARGENTINA!!!!!!

On a different note, big surprise by Greece yesterday, glad they got to score in the World Cup this time.

mluque125
Jun 18, 2010, 09:38 AM
Should have been 3-2, but it isn't the first time and it won't be the last time these mistakes are being made and a team gets cheated.
Agreed, that was completely ridiculous.

62hofner
Jun 18, 2010, 09:46 AM
Should have been 3-2, but it isn't the first time and it won't be the last time these mistakes are being made and a team gets cheated.

It's particularly frustrating when it comes to a big tournament. But advancing is better than not advancing.

FPSHOT
Jun 19, 2010, 07:05 AM
Holland - Denmark 2-0
Holland - Japan 1 - 0



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taxgirl
Jun 19, 2010, 07:45 AM
Holland - Denmark 2-0
Holland - Japan 1 - 0



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YES!!!
WE won... lol
:banana1::banana1::banana1:

FPSHOT
Jun 19, 2010, 07:48 AM
6 points in the pocket

Legs
Jun 19, 2010, 08:24 AM
It couldn't have come easier...

Lucy
Jun 21, 2010, 04:00 AM
How about little old New Zealand drawing with Italy?!?!!! What an upset for the Italians! Go All Whites!

FPSHOT
Jun 21, 2010, 04:40 AM
It may well be that us Dutch meet the Kiwi team in the next round on June 28 Luce :wave1:

mluque125
Jun 21, 2010, 08:17 AM
WOW Portugal. 7-0

FPSHOT
Jun 27, 2010, 10:54 AM
Holland - Denmark 2-0
Holland - Japan 1 - 0
Holland - Kameroen 2-1



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taxgirl
Jun 27, 2010, 11:01 AM
England - Germany 1-4
:devious:

FPSHOT
Jun 27, 2010, 11:30 AM
That match will get quite an after talk because of the goal of the English which was denied.

8f-MYUzDjJc

FPSHOT
Jun 29, 2010, 01:29 AM
Holland - Denmark 2-0
Holland - Japan 1 - 0
Holland - Kameroen 2-1
Holland - Slovakia 2-1

Friday Brazil



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hibgal
Jun 29, 2010, 02:02 AM
Think Persie has recovered his temper by then, FP? :devious:

FPSHOT
Jun 29, 2010, 02:23 AM
That's already settled and had to with his greed to finish the game which is a positive thing within the team but is not a problem even though some press makes it a problem but it isn't.

george_on_cloud9
Jun 29, 2010, 06:26 AM
POrtugal!!!

george_on_cloud9
Jun 29, 2010, 08:48 PM
:cry1:

We lost to Spain... Bye Bye World Cup!

FPSHOT
Jul 01, 2010, 09:07 PM
This afternoon Holland will be closed

4pm Holland-Brazil

FPSHOT
Jul 02, 2010, 01:38 PM
Holland - Denmark 2-0
Holland - Japan 1 - 0
Holland - Kameroen 2-1
Holland - Slovakia 2-1
Holland - Brazil 2-1 :wave1:



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Legs
Jul 02, 2010, 02:26 PM
Missed the first half, but a great second one it was.
One of the most thrilling games I watched this time around.

It does mean that one of my predicted winners is out,
but I can't be to sad about it.

Lots of favourites and big teams were send home early this World Cup. So go Holland! Not to forget the rest of the country.

Go Netherlands!!!

FPSHOT
Jul 02, 2010, 11:24 PM
I watched the whole match with quite some people and the atmosphere was awesome although we had a tough start when Brazil was still controlling the match.

When the match was over, Holland exploded :teeth1:

taxgirl
Jul 06, 2010, 07:51 AM
Holland - Uruguay in 2 1/2 hours......:look:

george_on_cloud9
Jul 06, 2010, 07:53 AM
I bet Germany will be the champion!

taxgirl
Jul 06, 2010, 08:39 AM
I bet Germany will be the champion!

I don't!! :devious:

taxgirl
Jul 06, 2010, 12:26 PM
Holland - Denmark 2-0
Holland - Japan 1 - 0
Holland - Kameroen 2-1
Holland - Slovakia 2-1
Holland - Brazil 2-1 :wave1:
Holland - Uruguay 3 -2 :wave1::wave1:

:dance::dance::dance:

hibgal
Jul 06, 2010, 12:31 PM
What were your guys doing in the last five minutes? Trying to lose???? :bigeyes3:

Legs
Jul 06, 2010, 12:33 PM
Go Netherlands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:cool1:

:cool1::cool1:
:cool1::cool1: :cool1::cool1: :cool1:

:cool1: :cool1: :cool1:

taxgirl
Jul 06, 2010, 01:03 PM
What were your guys doing in the last five minutes? Trying to lose???? :bigeyes3:

LOL.... the match became a bit boring, so we brought back some excitement in the game :teeth1:

Legs
Jul 06, 2010, 01:05 PM
That much excitement wasn't needed that late in the game.

hibgal
Jul 06, 2010, 01:17 PM
I must say they seemed to overdo it a bit!

taxgirl
Jul 06, 2010, 01:30 PM
We won...didn't we????
That's what counts... :wave1:

hibgal
Jul 06, 2010, 02:15 PM
We won...didn't we????
That's what counts... :wave1:
Thanks, I've no doubt, to the intricate rites that were performed in Delft the other day! :teeth1:

FPSHOT
Jul 06, 2010, 08:45 PM
We were just teasing Uruguay a bit in those last five minutes :teeth1:

FPSHOT
Jul 06, 2010, 08:46 PM
LOL.... the match became a bit boring, so we brought back some excitement in the game :teeth1:

LOL :teeth1:

taxgirl
Jul 07, 2010, 12:21 PM
Sunday July 11th:

Holland - Spain

Clark Kent
Jul 08, 2010, 03:36 AM
Holland-Spain. What a nightmare final. I've never liked the Dutch team, especially that thug Van Bommel, who must have videos of all the refs in compromising positions. How else do you explain the fact that he fouls repeatedly but hardly gets booked. On the other hand, you've got the Spanish, who spout self-serving nonsense about their "beautiful" football, aided and abetted by a sycophantic media, even though Italy scored far more goals in getting to the 2006 final. Yet Italy are dull but Spain are geniuses. Also, Spain won all their knockout games 1-0, exactly the same as Germany did in reaching the 2002 final, yet the Germans were boring but Spain are geniuses. This is the first time I don't care who wins the final.

FPSHOT
Jul 08, 2010, 09:10 AM
The Dutch are at their best.

Van Bommel, mister Clark, has been out of the Dutch team for a long time and now is one of the best and he is great in playing refs :teeth1:

In my view the Spanish won Germany because Germany was too arrogant even though according to various specialists they are playing the Dutch way, also because 7 of them play in Bayern Munich directed by my hero Louis Van Gaal.

It's simple, we are the winner Sunday.

hibgal
Jul 08, 2010, 10:46 AM
It's simple, we are the winner Sunday.If the team is as confident you will! :teeth1:

FPSHOT
Jul 08, 2010, 10:50 AM
a bunch of bullfighters will not stop our goal.

taxgirl
Jul 08, 2010, 10:52 AM
a bunch of bullfighters will not stop our goal.


Right!!!!:teeth1:

mluque125
Jul 08, 2010, 12:02 PM
Not an Uruguay fan, but I feel bad that they lost because of an offside goal

Legs
Jul 08, 2010, 12:35 PM
Not an Uruguay fan, but I feel bad that they lost because of an offside goal

That wasn't offside.

taxgirl
Jul 08, 2010, 01:00 PM
LOL
Couldn't resist....:teeth1:

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FPSHOT
Jul 08, 2010, 01:05 PM
Wolter Kroes, het moet niet gekker worden

hibgal
Jul 08, 2010, 01:06 PM
Who are these wild people in orange??? :thinker:

taxgirl
Jul 08, 2010, 01:10 PM
Who are these wild people in orange??? :thinker:

LOL
I can see FPSHOT...... right in the middle...and wait...do I see Legs too????
hahahahahahahaha :wave1:

taxgirl
Jul 08, 2010, 01:11 PM
Wolter Kroes, het moet niet gekker worden

Hahahaha Kon het niet laten.....
Ach als ze kampioen worden mag toch alles? Zelfs Wolter Kroes!!!

hibgal
Jul 08, 2010, 04:50 PM
LOL
I can see FPSHOT...... right in the middle...and wait...do I see Legs too????
hahahahahahahaha :wave1:
I think Legs fainted. The excitement got too much for him!
:wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3:

But wait! Where's TG???

george_on_cloud9
Jul 09, 2010, 08:47 AM
My vote goes to Spain!

taxgirl
Jul 10, 2010, 09:32 AM
I think Legs fainted. The excitement got too much for him!
:wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3: :wink3:

But wait! Where's TG???

Lol...she's not there...!

62hofner
Jul 10, 2010, 04:27 PM
I am rooting for you guys, Legs... FPSHOT... taxgirl.

Go Netherlands!

george_on_cloud9
Jul 10, 2010, 09:58 PM
GO SPAIN!

Clark Kent
Jul 11, 2010, 10:42 AM
Is there some way they can both lose? Spain are just so smug and self-regarding about their so-called beautiful football, yet I don't think they've been great in this World Cup. They lost to Switzerland and were lucky to beat Chile and Paraguay and they have Busquets and Capdevilla, two of the biggest cheats at this World Cup. Then there's the Dutch who are only a slightly less pedestrian version of the Greek team that won Euro 2004. It's been a pretty disappointing World Cup but I'm still glad I was out in South Africa.

george_on_cloud9
Jul 11, 2010, 12:23 PM
That octopus named Paul predicted almost every games and won!

hibgal
Jul 11, 2010, 12:23 PM
Good grief! Full time, lots of foul play and no goals?!?! Come on, guys! It's TIME!

george_on_cloud9
Jul 11, 2010, 12:24 PM
Not with penalty kicks!!!!

hibgal
Jul 11, 2010, 01:26 PM
Didn't quite come to that. But whatever the outcome, can't deny that the Dutch fought to the finish!

62hofner
Jul 11, 2010, 01:46 PM
Congratulations, Spain!

I don't know much about soccer, but that seemed to be a really boring game. Maybe that's why soccer isn't as big a sport in The U.S. (as far as professional sports is concerned) like Football, Basketball, etc. I think we Americans like to see lots of scoring! LOL! :laugh5:

Anyway... that octopus is good at picking the winners!

Clark Kent
Jul 11, 2010, 01:51 PM
Congratulations, Spain!

I don't know much about soccer, but that seemed to be a really boring game. Maybe that's why soccer isn't as big a sport in The U.S. (as far as professional sports is concerned) like Football, Basketball, etc. I think we Americans like to see lots of scoring! LOL! :laugh5:

Anyway... that octopus is good at picking the winners!

Goals, like alcohol, should be consumed responsibly. :laugh5: If there are too many goals in a match, then it becomes a farce. You can have perfectly entertaining matches with few goals. All that being said, this final wasn't one of them. Spain are being held up as masters of beautiful football. This is self-serving nonsense. They have been dull in this World Cup and if they are masters of anything, it is diving, faking injury, getting other players sent-off and chasing refs. Neither side deserved to win.

hibgal
Jul 11, 2010, 01:58 PM
I don't know much about soccer, but that seemed to be a really boring game. Maybe that's why soccer isn't as big a sport in The U.S. (as far as professional sports is concerned) like Football, Basketball, etc. I think we Americans like to see lots of scoring! LOL! :laugh5: I notice you're not metioning the US national sport BASEBALL! If any game defeats your analogy it's that one. :devious:

As to scoring, this game was played very much on the defensive, with both teams being more interested in not allowing opportunities for their opponent than to score (goals that is, although they 'scored' plenty of penalties!), which makes the game boring to watch, I agree.

62hofner
Jul 11, 2010, 03:42 PM
Goals, like alcohol, should be consumed responsibly. :laugh5: If there are too many goals in a match, then it becomes a farce. You can have perfectly entertaining matches with few goals. All that being said, this final wasn't one of them. Spain are being held up as masters of beautiful football. This is self-serving nonsense. They have been dull in this World Cup and if they are masters of anything, it is diving, faking injury, getting other players sent-off and chasing refs. Neither side deserved to win.

Well, maybe they should consider making each goal in soccer worth 3 points! :tongue4:

I don't know... winning the Championship of ANY sport by winning seven (?) 1-0 games is a little..... anti-climactic. :yawn2:

62hofner
Jul 11, 2010, 03:50 PM
I notice you're not metioning the US national sport BASEBALL! If any game defeats your analogy it's that one. :devious:

As to scoring, this game was played very much on the defensive, with both teams being more interested in not allowing opportunities for their opponent than to score (goals that is, although they 'scored' plenty of penalties!), which makes the game boring to watch, I agree.

I didn't mention Baseball because of that very thing - there can be some very low-scoring games. But that's generally an exception. On the other hand, a low-scoring Baseball game often means one of the pitchers is shutting-down the other team and could get a "no-hitter" - which is incredibly exciting to watch/witness. In soccer, it's like, "God, would someone please score and end this game!!!" LOL! All in all, watching Baseball is way more fun than watching soccer, IMO. To each their own!

Admittedly, I have enjoyed watching several World Cup games this year - primarily because it is the big event for that sport, and I mostly enjoy watching the championships of all sports these days. But to watch soccer year-round? :sleep2:

Serena
Jul 11, 2010, 08:44 PM
Football is a game that meant to teach patience which bears intense anticipation. There really wouldn't be much of a match if either side were to easily score constantly. I know many Americans do have trouble sitting still for this long, but they can odly make through an entire baseball game. A 3-2 game is sort of the equivalent to a 30-20 American football game.

Funny how hockey carries more popularity in the US when it is nearly the same game, I think people are more interested in seeing a fight than the actually game which is just silly.

62hofner
Jul 11, 2010, 08:57 PM
Football is a game that meant to teach patience which bears intense anticipation. There really wouldn't be much of a match if either side were to easily score constantly. I know many Americans do have trouble sitting still for this long, but they can odly make through an entire baseball game. A 3-2 game is sort of the equivalent to a 30-20 American football game.

Funny how hockey carries more popularity in the US when it is nearly the same game, I think people are more interested in seeing a fight than the actually game which is just silly.

Oh, I've been to hockey games and they are tons of fun! And not just for waiting to see if there's a fight (which you can almost count on at least once per game!). Hockey is a fast-paced game with lots of action and drama. Similar to soccer in that there is a net as the goal - but that's about it! Skating on ice gives hockey a more intense and fast-moving quality.

I get it about soccer being a game of patience and all that... and I admitted that I think Americans want to see sports where there is scoring - or at least more of an opportunity/chance at scoring.

Throughout the entire World Cup (as much as I saw of it), I don't think I saw one "break-away" where one player had control of the ball, uncontested by an opposing defenseman, in a show-down with the goalie (which btw often happens in hockey). Seems the goal area is always swarming with players from each team. I am surprised ALL soccer games don't end in 0-0 ties!

ANYWAY.....

Legs
Jul 11, 2010, 09:47 PM
Again it just didn't happen. So close ...
Still an game that got me on the edge of seat.
And we came far, some nice goals along the way.
Just wait for in 2012.


Go Netherlands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Serena
Jul 11, 2010, 09:52 PM
Actually there is plenty of fast movement, drama and opportunities of scoring going on in football, hence why games occasionally do end ties. But if you have the attention span of a fruitfly, you are probably not going to catch much of it. But scoring isn't quite as easy to do as in basketball and American football which makes the game more challenging.

If you recap the WC, Germany has shown some good examples of some one-on-one shooting, but yes many of the goals were a team effort and that makes for great teamwork.

FPSHOT
Jul 11, 2010, 11:08 PM
It's obvious that many Americans do not know much about the original and normal football, which is fine, they have their American Football where the players look like astronauts ready for Mars with all that stuff on, sissies (Oh when I fall I need protection to not get hurt). :eyebrows:

The World Cup Final was one of the most exciting games in the tournament and was decided because of 3 failures from the referee, the red card which Iniesta should have got, the corner kick we shouls have had and the offside goal.

A shame, but still congrats to Spain , they also were great.

Legs
Jul 11, 2010, 11:12 PM
The World Cup Final was one of the most exciting games in the tournament and was decided because of 3 failures from the referee, the red card which Iniesta should have got, the corner kick we shouls have had and the offside goal.

A shame, but still congrats to Spain , they also were great.

It is what it is.

To be fair the moment before the goal wasn't offside, thus nothing is wrong with Spain's goal. So congrats to them, and now onwards the Euro cup.

mluque125
Jul 12, 2010, 10:44 AM
Yeah congrats to both teams, the game was a little dirty (that kick on the chest!) but they both deserved to be finalists in my opinion.

beatlelover45223
Jul 12, 2010, 08:07 PM
It's obvious that many Americans do not know much about the original and normal football, which is fine, they have their American Football where the players look like astronauts ready for Mars with all that stuff on, sissies (Oh when I fall I need protection to not get hurt). :eyebrows:


Thanks FP, "we Americans" appreciate your criticisms, the whole world knows we are nothing but uncreative sissys..... Perhaps we like our players safe from brain trauma never mind numerous other life threatening injuries, what a silly idea :rolleyes:

FPSHOT
Jul 12, 2010, 08:11 PM
Thanks FP, "we Americans" appreciate your critisims, the whole world knows we are nothing but uncreative sissys...

holy moly, what critisism ? Why take it so serious? My goodness...

beatlelover45223
Jul 12, 2010, 08:12 PM
Congratulations to both teams, this year I caught some highlights of the games every night on the news, both teams did themselves and their countries proud, drew a lot more interest in the US this year, soccer is very big in school sports here in the US......

FPSHOT
Jul 12, 2010, 08:16 PM
The US Team also did pretty good

beatlelover45223
Jul 12, 2010, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by beatlelover45223 http://www.beatlelinks.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.beatlelinks.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1021339#post1021339)
Thanks FP, "we Americans" appreciate your critisims, the whole world knows we are nothing but uncreative sissys...



holy moly, what critisism ? Why take it so serious? My goodness...

I have no idea how the US came up in talking about the winner of the World finals, then to throw insults, just seems you were taking snips at the US for what??? We here in the US have our love of some differents professional sports, I didn't see any of us from the US criticizing soccer, at least I did not see any, I also wanted to point out in schools-through college soccer is very big in the US.... Why not take it seriously, you called our full body contact football players sissys, so it's ok for you to be insulting, but not for me to respond back, I didn't see anywhere in your post above where you said you were just kidding :rolleyes:.... Perhaps it's the language barrier?

FPSHOT
Jul 12, 2010, 09:19 PM
I have no idea how the US came up in talking about the winner of the World finals, then to throw insults, just seems you were taking snips at the US for what???


I am not taking snips at all, I was really just kidding and maybe placed the wrong smiley

We here in the US have our love of some differents professional sports, I didn't see any of us from the US criticizing soccer, at least I did not see any, I also wanted to point out in schools-through college soccer is very big in the US.... Why not take it seriously,


Quite some Dutch soccer players have played in the US for a few decades already which is also why we here very well know how soccer has grown in the US.

Perhaps it's the language barrier?

Now I could take this remark as an insult but will not do so. You simply misunderstood me, so let's drop it. If you feel you need to take my post as insulting, fine, but it never was intended to be.

MaccaGirl2891
Jul 12, 2010, 09:19 PM
I like Paul the octopus. He's awesome. :tongue1:
Congrats to Spain! And our US team for their great effort in the World Cup. I watched the US games and the final game and they were nail biters!

(I love watching American football more, because I've been more exposed to it and it's exciting to watch as well. Football or "soccer" and American football are two totally different animals.)

FPSHOT
Jul 12, 2010, 09:21 PM
To be fair the moment before the goal wasn't offside, thus nothing is wrong with Spain's goal. So congrats to them, and now onwards the Euro cup.

Whilst watching the game Live it seemed to be offside but I have seen now that it wasn't.

Spain was the best and it's a pity how the Dutch played so aggressive.

FPSHOT
Jul 12, 2010, 09:22 PM
I like Paul the octopus. He's awesome. :tongue1:


He is awesome yes and amazing how he had it right each time. :teeth1:

CWW
Jul 13, 2010, 12:03 AM
It's obvious that many Americans do not know much about the original and normal football, which is fine, they have their American Football where the players look like astronauts ready for Mars with all that stuff on, sissies (Oh when I fall I need protection to not get hurt). :eyebrows:

The World Cup Final was one of the most exciting games in the tournament and was decided because of 3 failures from the referee, the red card which Iniesta should have got, the corner kick we shouls have had and the offside goal.

A shame, but still congrats to Spain , they also were great.


The ref did make a massive blunder at one point but it woudn't have changed the final outcome..And you forgot about all the brutality and yellow cards here on the part of the Dutch players..

Is De Jong a chinese name or something?! :P :laugh5: That was some wicked Kung fu.. In a soccer match not a karate tournament..

Still a thrilling game..i believe all the over the top protection in Gridiron matches is more about protecting the players from each other..more matches like the world cup final and pretty soon ALL footballers will be done up in spacesuits..

May i also point out that New Zealand remains the only team to remain undefeated in the tournament! True!!

CWW
Jul 13, 2010, 12:05 AM
Yup the Octopus stole the show for me too..amazing.

hibgal
Jul 13, 2010, 12:13 AM
The ref did make a massive blunder at one point but it woudn't have changed the final outcome..And you forgot about all the brutality and yellow cards here on the part of certain Dutch players!!:laugh5: Not that I condone violence but, I wonder if that wasn't part of the over all strategy - to intimidate Spain or at least to force a change of their game. It largely worked too! If Rodden had got in that ball who knows what had happened? But that's life.

FPSHOT
Jul 13, 2010, 12:14 AM
May i also point out that New Zealand remains the only team to remain undefeated in the tournament!!:laugh5: True!!

I don't believe anyone would have predicted the outcome of Group F to be like it is.

As for the Dutch, yeah our midfielders went over the top.

De Jong is no Chinese name :teeth1: but if that Spanish player would not have been in the way nothing would have happened :devious:

In My Life
Jul 13, 2010, 02:11 AM
Bitterly dissapointed with the way the Dutch chose to play in the final, they are a much better team than that. I have to say the best team won, and yes they are as guilty as anyone for theatricals, but for the some reason, the Dutch chose confrontation, and I feel that Howard Webb tried his hardest not to send anyone off, but events meant he had no option.

The team of the tournement for me were the USA, they have come on in leaps and bounds since the days of Best, Marsh, and Beckenbauer trying to show them how its done, and lets not forget the penalty miss in the dying seconds that could have meant that Ghana would have progressed instead of Uraguay.

But there again Uraguay had one of the stars of the whole show in Diego Forlan, all I know is that I will be 4 years older by the time the next tournement comes around (well hopefully).:rolleyes:

CWW
Jul 13, 2010, 02:29 AM
Bitterly dissapointed with the way the Dutch chose to play in the final, they are a much better team than that. I have to say the best team won, and yes they are as guilty as anyone for theatricals, but for the some reason, the Dutch chose confrontation, and I feel that Howard Webb tried his hardest not to send anyone off, but events meant he had no option.

The team of the tournement for me were the USA, they have come on in leaps and bounds since the days of Best, Marsh, and Beckenbauer trying to show them how its done, and lets not forget the penalty miss in the dying seconds that could have meant that Ghana would have progressed instead of Uraguay.

But there again Uraguay had one of the stars of the whole show in Diego Forlan, all I know is that I will be 4 years older by the time the next tournement comes around (well hopefully).:rolleyes:


No question, bad sportsmanship all round..the dutch need to learn some manners, they let themselves down...that "Kung fu' kick was shocking and completly uncalled for and not an accident either..

bit like the italians taking all those dives..some people will do anything to win

Glad that the better team with the most integrity won on the day!! who said "good guys never win?" sometimes they do..

Legs
Jul 13, 2010, 08:38 AM
Not to forget Dirk Kuyt our Katwijk boy!
A great all around player.
Well done Dirk!!!!!!

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beatlebangs1964
Jul 13, 2010, 09:50 PM
http://www.beatlelinks.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13478&highlight=FIFA

http://www.beatlelinks.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13663&highlight=FIFA

chaitanya
Jul 21, 2010, 03:07 PM
Not to forget Dirk Kuyt our Katwijk boy!
A great all around player.
Well done Dirk!!!!!!

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Kuyt one of us !!! YNWA !!!