Radio Broadcast Ideas...

[Jerry]

Anybody out there have a nice quick idea for a new radio broadcast? I've been a little busy lately, but I should have some time in the next day or two to finally upload something.

One thing that I thought might be cool was a nice pre-Let It Be Naked thing, where I'd broadcast stripped down takes of songs that are going to be on the new album next month. But I honestly don't have the time (or patience!) to sit and figure out what's been released on Anthology or this or that.

If somebody wants to go through and suggest Let It Be era tracks from particular bootlegs, I'd definitely do it. I'd like to follow the track listing for the new album. And then the next week I could upload all the major unreleased session songs everybody's always talking about, like I'm So Tired with Paul on vocals, and Suzy's Parlour or whatever you want to call it, etc.

Anybody????

[Legs]

The easiest, and fastest would be to put the original Get Back album up. Either the first or the second one.

[Paolo Meccano]

A year or so ago, BBC Radio 2 did an 'A to Z of the Beatles' where every week they played a version of every song the Beatles ever recorded (one song a week of course), which meant that I got to hear lots of stray songs for the first time. It proved an education to me, so perhaps you'd like to try that in the future Jerry?

[onosideboards]

I think you should play the Glyn Johns mixes the week "Let It Be...Naked" is released.

Oh, and include "Strobe Lights, Insense & Posters" or whatever that radio broadcast one is. How ironic, playing a radio broadcast on a radio broadcast. Er maybe not.

Anyway... images/icons/wink.gif

[ Oct 06, 2003, 07:03 AM: Message Edited By: onosideboards ]

[Jerry]

Well I went with the WBCN broadcast of the early Get Back mix. Enjoy.

[Jerry]

Just a quick Get Back question. The acetate that's on the radio broadcast right now is obviously a very early rough cut of the tracks. The common Get Back LP that's available is more edited and mixed. I'll probably broadcast the LP next week, but I'd like to get some more info about it first. Does anybody know the exact history of the mixed LP? Like when it was prepared, and how close it was to being released? The bootleg was always prepared like an "official" release with a cover and everything. Any info? Thanks.

[onosideboards]

Originally Posted By Jerry:
Just a quick Get Back question. The acetate that's on the radio broadcast right now is obviously a very early rough cut of the tracks. The common Get Back LP that's available is more edited and mixed. I'll probably broadcast the LP next week, but I'd like to get some more info about it first. Does anybody know the exact history of the mixed LP? Like when it was prepared, and how close it was to being released? The bootleg was always prepared like an "official" release with a cover and everything. Any info? Thanks.<font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">That's not a very "quick" question, Jerry images/icons/wink.gif .

Which version will you be playing?

[Jerry]

I have a really really really old "Get Back" bootleg CD that says "Martin Mix" or something on it. And then I have the Yellow Dog "Get Back" release which I think is a little more cleaned up, so I'll probably use that one.

I never picked up a copy of that "Final Glyn Johns Compilation" thing, so I'm not really sure what that is actually.

Feel free to explain it all if you have the time...

[Legs]

there are 3 mixes for Get Back, George Martin did a mix and Glyn John's two. The Final Glyn Johns Compilation, is the 3th and last Get Back album, before it went on the shelve.

I Me Mine and Across The Universe were added, Teddy Boy got taken away.

[ Oct 08, 2003, 11:05 AM: Message Edited By: Legs ]

[Jerry]

Ok, let's get this straight. Make any corrections please....

The first compilation of the LP was done by Glyn Johns on March 10, 1969. It's the acetate that was broadcast on the radio, like this CD here...
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=post&section=1

Then there was the traditional "Get Back" compilation which most people have heard over the years. It was done by Glyn Johns on May 28, 1969....
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=yd014&section=1

Although this was really the second version, I think they also refer to it as the First Compilation. It's the only way to explain this CD...
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=vt234&section=1

And then there was one final compilation done by Glyn Johns on January 5, 1970...
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=vt182&section=1

I don't think that George Martin ever had anything to do with the recordings.

[Legs]

Originally Posted By Jerry:
Ok, let's get this straight. Make any corrections please....

<font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">Hold on, I will call the expert on Get Back stuff.
Jerry, Jerry!!! Wait, something is wrong but I can't figure out what? graemlins/thinker.gif

I dunno, at least one book I have mentiones a mix prepared by George Martin, have to look it up.

[Jerry]

I'm not sure if this helps, but one of the first bootleg CDs I ever bought was the traditional Get Back, the second version. It had a big "Martin Mix" printed on the CD itself. But from reading different stuff, I can't see where George Martin mixed anything. Maybe he did a single or two, but never the entire LP.

[onosideboards]

Yeah, the "Thirty Days" version says "produced by George Martin" on it and for a while I assumed it was Martin's mix, though I knew there was a problem with that logic.

I don't have the radio broadcast one, just the Vigotone GJ Final mix and the Thirty Days one.

I've been told that the Yellow Dog one is not necessary if you have the Thirty Days one because YD for some reason tacked on a bunch of other stuff, just to make it all the more confusing. So, I'd just ignore that one.

So, like Legs said, there's 3 versions and they can be found on:

The first compilation of the LP was done by Glyn Johns on March 10, 1969. It's the acetate that was broadcast on the radio, like this CD here...
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=post§ion=1

Then there was the traditional "Get Back" compilation which most people have heard over the years. It was done by Glyn Johns on May 28, 1969....
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=yd014§ion=1
And then there was one final compilation done by Glyn Johns on January 5, 1970...
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=vt182§ion=1

There's more details that can be discussed, of course, but it always gives me a headache. graemlins/images/icons/confused.gif

[joelcrowservo]

I agree, I'm not sure George Martin ever had anything to do with the mix (and hardly production) of "LIB". That said, I'm more familiar with the Twickenham sessions, how much was Martin there during the Apple Studio recording? I mean, it was more random assed recording to be sure, and hardly produced as such. Wasnt that the big deal over his doing "Abbey Road", that he hadnt been with them much on "LIB", so they asked him back for "Abbey.." to do things 'the old way'?
Who does 'the bible' ("Recording Sessions") credit for producing the sweet Apple tracks?

[onosideboards]

Martin wasn't needed for most of the sessions simply because they didn't start out making an album--they started out making a TV show. Near the end of the Twinkenhem sessions (I think), Glynn Johns started recording with two 4-track mixers to produce 8-track masters. But that's not news to most of you probably.

In this highly unorganized project, it took a while to even get the recording equipment into Twinkenhem. Like it was an afterthought. I'm sure nobody saw any reason for Martin to dive in half-way through, when they did start recording properly. And even then, the Beatles knew they had a ways to go. Besides, it wasn't anything GJ couldn't do just as an engineer. He wasn't really producing as Martin had done historically. All they needed was someone to record the takes, using Martin would have been overkill.

P.S. I should also add that the Thirty Days version adds two mixes of "Teddy Boy" at the end, so that too is slightly corrupted as a GB album itself.

[Jerry]

Originally Posted By onosideboards:
I don't have the radio broadcast one, just the Vigotone GJ Final mix and the Thirty Days one.
<font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">Well, I have the first two mixes, but I don't have the Final Compilation one. So how about a trade? I have tons of other stuff too. Just send me an e-mail if you're interested.