George's "Just Ask"

[Tangledupinbluee]

Hi all,
Just wondering - does anyone have any info on the unreleased George song "Just Ask"? At what point was this one recorded? I have heard the acoustic demo of it and i have heard that there is also an electric version as well, am i correct? Thanks.

[FPSHOT]

As far as I know there is one version, the one with George on electric guitar.

I believe having read it comes from the All Things Must Pass sessions, but I am not sure about that.

His voice sounds like the Let It Be period.

Doing such a demo on electric guitar is like from 1970 to 1972 I would say. It has a vibrator on it (sorry that is the word used here for it) so maybe that can give some direction to period.

Also, the tittle, Just Ask, does seem like just given by the first one who put this on the web for download, because from what you can hear of the lyrics, it does not along much, which in Hari's case does not say much I agree.

It's a mistery to me.

[L'Angelo Misterioso]

I kind of like that track. images/icons/smile.gif

[Tangledupinbluee]

One of my reasons for asking was that I have the book "Eight Arms To Hold You" which is pretty darn comprehensive when it comes to solo outtakes. But it (and every other source) is silent on "Just Ask" or "Love Don't Mean Nothing". I think this song began appearing almost at the same time this book came out, in 2000.

I strongly recommend the book, however. It has helped immensley when it comes to sorting out my bootlegs.

[Savoy Truffle]

I have this download. I heard it was from the All Things Must Pass sessions as well. I don't know though. The download I have is titled Love Don't Mean Nothing which makes more sense lyrically. Maybe the user I got it from thought that title was more appropriate. I really love it. Too bad George never expanded on it.

[ Apr 09, 2003, 12:49 PM: Message Edited By: Savoy Truffle ]

[Legs]

Supose to be a good book that "Eight Arms To Hold You". I am also still looking for the 910's guide to the solo Beatles outtakes.
As for the song "Just Ask" the title does ring a bell, but not sure wheter I heard it or have it somewhere, perhaps maybe as a different title.

[FPSHOT]

Legs, we have discussed this song, and I may have even sent you the mp.3 file maybe you remember it from that.

[old_moon_shining]

It was sent to me FPSHOT under the title 'Just Ask'. graemlins/thumbsup1.gif
It still needed a lot of work but catchy tune I thought. Have trouble understanding all of the lyrics.

[Legs]

Is "How do I tell someone" by chance also a different title for "Just Ask". Just thought I'd ask.

[onosideboards]

i LOVE that song though i can barely understand what he's saying. i understand the "love don't mean nothing" but that's about it. i love trying to play it on guitar.

does anyone have any idea what the rest of the words are? i'd love to be able to sing along too. i think i have a pretty crappy copy too.

[onosideboards]

I'm confused about this song. There's some talk about it in another bootleg group, but for some reason I thought someone here said it was NOT George. That it's an outfake. I can't find anything like that though. Maybe I'm thinking of a different song...

[FPSHOT]

Yeah it was me who said it is a fake graemlins/laugh2.gif

It is. And it has been discussed here at the bootleg store.

[Legs]

Well, it's not an outfake. Sometime ago I relistened to the song, after FPSHOT had re-send it to me. And it is just not George, doesn't sound like him. In fact when FPSHOT first had send me the song, I thought, what the hell is this, must be some kind of song George had produced or something, otherwise why give it to me.

On Crackerbox Palace there has been a topic about this song.

[onosideboards]

Ok, but nobody here has any real proof that it's not George? I mean, I can't just go by what you think. images/icons/wink.gif I can't just go back to the listserv and say two random Dutchies think it's fake. images/icons/smile.gif

[Legs]

It's not fake, it's just not George! The song isn't mentioned in any bootleg book, it's not on any bootleg by the two better labels, "Yellow Dog" and "Vigotone", and if you just listen to it, you clearly hear it's not George. I would have an harder time finding out wheter a song is by George, if you send me a song by "Tom Petty" or something. Just listen to it.

[onosideboards]

Originally Posted By Legs:
It's not fake, it's just not George! The song isn't mentioned in any bootleg book, it's not on any bootleg by the two better labels, "Yellow Dog" and "Vigotone", and if you just listen to it, you clearly hear it's not George. I would have an harder time finding out wheter a song is by George, if you send me a song by "Tom Petty" or something. Just listen to it.<font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">I have listened to it and I thought it was George until you, or whoever, said it wasn't. Obviously lots of people think it is him, and with good reason, from what I can tell.

You do, however, have a good point about it not being on Yellow Dog or Vigotone, if that's true too. Bootlegzone is down right now. images/icons/frown.gif

[FPSHOT]

Originally Posted By Legs:
It's not fake, it's just not George! The song isn't mentioned in any bootleg book, it's not on any bootleg by the two better labels, "Yellow Dog" and "Vigotone", and if you just listen to it, you clearly hear it's not George. I would have an harder time finding out wheter a song is by George, if you send me a song by "Tom Petty" or something. Just listen to it.<font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">what he said

[onosideboards]

Originally Posted By FPSHOT:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">Quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">Originally Posted By Legs:
It's not fake, it's just not George! The song isn't mentioned in any bootleg book, it's not on any bootleg by the two better labels, "Yellow Dog" and "Vigotone", and if you just listen to it, you clearly hear it's not George. I would have an harder time finding out wheter a song is by George, if you send me a song by "Tom Petty" or something. Just listen to it.<font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">what he said</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">yeah, and like i said, that's not really proof yet. I don't really care if it is or not, I just want some hard facts to back up the argument.

[ Oct 08, 2003, 01:21 PM: Message Edited By: onosideboards ]

[Legs]

Alright... let me reverse some things then.
What kind of proof do you have that it is George. It doesn't even sound like him.

[darkhorse]

Add me to the list of people who think it's not George. It's just not him, not his voice, or whatever. But then again I don't seem to have the kind of proof you'd want to have.

[Legs]

But how can you proof such a thing, nowadays anyone can make a demo put it up on the internet and claim it's well George Harrison for example.

Again, reversing things, what kind of proof is there that it is George.

[Savoy Truffle]

There isn't really any except for someone or ones (who are offering it in downloads) saying that it is George. images/icons/smile.gif

I can clearly tell now by listening to it that it's not George.

[FPSHOT]

Okay if we wanna go into this again, great graemlins/smile1.gif

I was fooled by this recording too for quite a while and I think what may have happened is that one person put it on some D/L site listed as George Harrison for whatever reason and because others took it, it grew. Maybe it's the guy himself.

Anyway, thanks to Legs I had some very clear listenings and yes I have heard George all my life and it is not him.

Proof? of the pudding is the eating i.e. listen carefully to the voice.

The guitar could have been from ATMP or even Get Back, that time.

But to me it's always been so strange even in the days that I thought it was El Maestro, that nowhere there is any mentioning of it.

And I do dare to say that I know about every song George has on bootlegs or have come to mind as of 1970 in books etc.

The ones I don't know are in the category which Dhani and Jeff are looking at.

So, that's good enough for me.

[ Oct 09, 2003, 11:20 AM: Message Edited By: FPSHOT ]

[onosideboards]

Ok, it's died off at the beatleg listserv as well, so I'll assume it's not George (as I had been doing anyway).

The type of proof I mean is dates, recording logs, things like this. Does anyone here have the "8 Arms to Hold You" book? I guess that's the definitive source.

There's other songs like this, gosh, I cannot for the life of me think of that Beatles one....ugh.

[Legs]

I've got eight arms to hold you, and it isn't in there.

There is nothing, no recording logs or whatsover,not really surprising as it isn't George Harrison. Just re-listen to the song again.

[onosideboards]

Ok, now that you've named sources that it's not in, I can call that proof. I believed you from the beginning, I just wanted something to back myself up. images/icons/smile.gif

[No Bozos]

Someone on a Beatle bootleg mailing list recently said that this track is actually by the band Radiohead. I don't really know anything about them. I've heard of them, but that's about it.

[FPSHOT]

Interesting, I'll ask around.

[beatlemad]

Radiohead have a song called Just - that could be the confusion.

[onosideboards]

Originally Posted By No Bozos:
Someone on a Beatle bootleg mailing list recently said that this track is actually by the band Radiohead. I don't really know anything about them. I've heard of them, but that's about it.<font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">whoa...it's NOT Radiohead. I think Just Ask has been around longer than Radiohead. It just sounds old anyway. To me it's just as clear that it's not Radiohead as everyone else thinks it's so obviously not George Harrison (which I now also believe). images/icons/smile.gif

[Siobhan]

Yes, definitely not Radiohead. I have a few of their albums, and their sound is completely different.