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FPSHOT
Jul 20, 2009, 10:15 PM
I find this quite a remarkable story

MUMBAI (AFP) – Indian astrologers are predicting violence and turmoil across the world as a result of this week's total solar eclipse, which the superstitious and religious view as a sign of potential doom.

But astronomers, scientists and secularists are trying to play down claims of evil portent in connection with Wednesday's natural spectacle, when the moon will come between the Earth and the sun, completely obscuring the sun.

In Hindu mythology, the two demons Rahu and Ketu are said to "swallow" the sun during eclipses, snuffing out its life-giving light and causing food to become inedible and water undrinkable.

Pregnant women are advised to stay indoors to prevent their babies developing birth defects, while prayers, fasting and ritual bathing, particularly in holy rivers, are encouraged.

Shivani Sachdev Gour, a gynaecologist at the Fortis Hospital in New Delhi, said a number of expectant mothers scheduled for caesarian deliveries on July 22 had asked to change the date.

"This is a belief deeply rooted in Indian society. Couples are willing to do anything to ensure that the baby is not born on that day," Gour said.

Astrologers have predicted a rise in communal and regional violence in the days following the eclipse, particularly in India, China and other Southeast Asian nations where it can be seen on Wednesday morning.

Mumbai astrologer Raj Kumar Sharma predicted "some sort of attack by (Kashmiri separatists) Jaish-e-Mohammad or Al-Qaeda on Indian soil" and a devastating natural disaster in Southeast Asia.

An Indian political leader could be killed, he said, and tension between the West and Iran is likely to increase, escalating into possible US military action after September 9, when fiery Saturn moves from Leo into Virgo.

"The last 200 years, whenever Saturn has gone into Virgo there has been either a world war or a mini world war," he told AFP.

It is not just in India that some are uneasy about what will transpire because of the eclipse.

In ancient China they were often associated with disasters, the death of an emperor or other dark events, and similar superstitions persist.

"The probability for unrest or war to take place in years when a solar eclipse happens is 95 percent," announced an article that attracted a lot of hits on the popular Chinese web portal Baidu.com.

Sanal Edamaruku, president of the Indian Rationalist Association, dismissed such doomsday predictions.

"Primarily, what we see with all these soothsayers and astrologers is that they're looking for opportunities to enhance their business with predictions of danger and calamity," he told AFP.

"They have been very powerful in India but over the last decade they have been in systematic decline."

Astronomers and scientists are also working to educate the public about the eclipse.

Travel firm Cox and Kings has chartered a Boeing 737-700 aircraft to give people the chance to see the eclipse from 41,000 feet (12,500 metres).

Experts will be on board to explain it to passengers, some of whom have paid 79,000 rupees (1,600 dollars) for a "sun-side" seat on the three-hour flight from New Delhi.

The eclipse's shadow is expected to pass over the aircraft at 15 times the speed of sound (Mach 15), said Ajay Talwar, president of the SPACE Group of companies that promotes science and astronomy.

"It's coming in the middle of the monsoon season. On the ground, there's a 40 percent chance of seeing it in India. On the aircraft you have almost a 90 percent chance of seeing the eclipse," he added.

Siva Prasad Tata, who runs the Astro Jyoti website, straddles the two worlds.

"There's no need to get too alarmed about the eclipse, they are a natural phenomenon," the astrologer told AFP.

But he added: "During the period of the eclipse, the opposite attracting forces are very, very powerful. From a spiritual point of view, this is a wonderful time to do any type of worship.

"It will bring about good results, much more than on an ordinary day."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090720/sc_afp/scienceastronomyeclipseasiatourismsuperstition

george_on_cloud9
Jul 20, 2009, 10:23 PM
This eclipse is not a good sign?

FPSHOT
Jul 20, 2009, 10:30 PM
Well the way i see it this is just for observation how in India this has a history going back in to their Mythology.

I would say just like many Native tribes in for instance the Amazon Rainforrests see things like this.

Interesting information however i do not believe you need to worry.

Some more here

For the second time in a year, a total eclipse of the Sun is about to cross China. But unlike the Moon's hard-to-reach shadow path last August, the celestial spectacle on July 22, 2009, will darken major cities, densely populated countryside, and a vast expanse of tropical ocean. And the eclipse itself will be a monster, with totality lasting more than 6.6 minutes at maximum. That makes this the longest totality until 2132.

More from that article here

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/highlights/50020537.html

hibgal
Jul 20, 2009, 11:50 PM
I saw the total eclipse on August 11, 1999. I was visiting Germany at the time. It was awesome!

That year was no worse or better than any other year and that August certainly less violent than August 1998, for example. However, if people are put on edge because they believe something bad will happen then they tend to become a self-fulfilled prophecy and violence happens that would otherwise not. :nono3:

Georgie Girl
Jul 21, 2009, 12:49 PM
You mean we don't have violence and stuff going on
when there ISN'T an eclipse? :afraid2:

FPSHOT
Jul 22, 2009, 12:32 AM
isn't there a song about a Solar Eclipse of the heart?

here is an update

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_July_22,_2009

george_on_cloud9
Jul 22, 2009, 12:55 AM
You mean
"Total Eclipse of the Heart" from Bonnie Tyler?

FPSHOT
Jul 22, 2009, 12:59 AM
:wink1:

george_on_cloud9
Jul 22, 2009, 01:01 AM
Love this song

JonnyLytnin
Jul 22, 2009, 04:17 AM
My Mom has told me story about my Grandmother and the solar eclipse.

I guess that when Granny was young and living in the hills of south-east Kentucky, most folks were not educated to understand the science of a solar eclipse. When one would occur everybody would go up onto their rooftops and stare into it (crazy huh?!) thinking that Jesus was coming back or that it was a sign from God or something.

Pretty amazing that any of them still retained their eyesight in their later years!

heyjude
Jul 22, 2009, 05:54 PM
That makes this the longest totality until 2132.

More from that article here

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/highlights/50020537.html

Good thing the world ends in 2012. :rolleyes:

jagatinho
Jul 24, 2009, 10:52 PM
I don't know about you, but I had an accident on Wednesday, eclipse day.
At work, someone knocked over my bassoon and damaged it.
This has never happened before, and I've had it for 20 years.