Bread Fatting?

[LostBeatleFan]

Would you say bread is fatting for us? Should we eat less of it because of that?
Pizza is ment to be very fatting cause of all the dough and bread on it;
I always thought bread was good for us; i only recently heard its also fatting.
Even Blown bread.
Do you eat a lot of bread?

[Hari's Chick]

I liked your option "hmm"! :laugh5:

I don't think bread is fattening. I've always been into carbs! For me, I noticed more of a change when I went from veggie to vegan- I lost nearly 10 pounds. I was not trying to... it just happened when I gave up dairy.

A while back I had a friend who was a personal trainer and she was awesome. She said the no carb craze was insane... and gave me her opinion based on heaps of research she had done saying why carbs are important to us in a healthy diet and things. I mean, even with pizza, the bread can be nearly fat free... it is all the grease from the gooey cheese which wears the "bad" hat. :)

My Mom used to think Pizza was healthy food because it had bread, protein, and veggies on it. She really was not far from wrong in my mind... except for that greasey factor. When I used to eat dairy, I would take a napkin and dab off the top of my pizza. A ton of grease comes off on the napkin, I even used to know how much...I forget now. Anyway, it is substantial. And the pizza tastes no different for it. :) Or, if you are adventurous, try vegan cheese and soy pepperoni. You will not be eating heaps of bad things or ill processed deli meats then... and it tastes super- esp with a homemade crust (easy to make in a breadmaker!).

Here's a vegan food pyramid... bread is not on the bottom layer, like the "normal" food pyramid... it is second row... :smile1:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s299/dosgamer3/Vegan%20Pictures/veganpyramid.jpg

[VersusBatman]

Bread gets its bad rep from the bad carbs like white bread, pastries, and pasta. When I had gestational diabetes, I was told to load up on whole grains and to eat only one cup of rice or pasta.

I prefer whole grains anyway, it is much more flavorable than white and it doesn't get as soggy.

[Dr Winston]

Bread in shops is rubbish. It's poor, refined junk. Make your own bread and you will never touch supermarket bread again.

[Esmirelda]

I'm a certified personal trainer. The no carbs diet is not very healthy. Everyone I know that has done it, has ended up gaining even more weight. Its a yo-yo diet.

Read the package. Some breads have a lot more calories than others. Look for low calories, whole grains; and no trans fats or hydrogenated syrups. (If you're veggie, avoid saturated fats. That's code for animal fat.)

Hope this helps.

[george_on_cloud9]

It depends what you put in the bread... For instance: cheese and ham, mayo,...


I like cheese in bread for breakfast...

[george_on_cloud9]

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s299/dosgamer3/Vegan%20Pictures/veganpyramid.jpg

Nice pyramid...

[mari]

Depends on whether it's whole grain or white bread.


HC, I have that pyramid thingie on the fridge, he he..

[Hari's Chick]

Glad you guys like! :teeth1: It's a colorful one, huh? :)

[VersusBatman]

lol! For a second I thought the coconut was a bowling ball. I said to myself, "What is that have to do with nuts and legumes?"

[Hari's Chick]

LOL!!! It does look like a bowling ball!

A coconut can be a bowling ball... :laugh5:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd172/Micheal08_01/Gilligans_Island_.jpg

[VersusBatman]

Yet they can't get off the island.



I'd like to try whole wheat pasta, but it's so expensive.

[Harbidge]

Supermarket bread is laden with preservatives and stuff to keep it soft for longer. It gives it a very powdery taste in my opinion.

I started making my own bread about a year ago. I bought myself a lovely bread maker an use that every time I need / fancy a loaf. The bread is ultimately cheaper, is totally fresh, has 100% natural ingrediants and tastes gorgeous!

[thecaitycat]

Anything is fattening if you eat enough of it.

Except celery. Unless you put peanut butter on it (yummy!); then it's also fattening if you eat enough of it.

[Magill]

Right, CC. A good rule of thumb is, 'everything in moderation'. There is nutrients in just about everything, including bread. Of course, whole grain/high fiber breads are best as opposed to say, white bread. On the other hand, maybe some of you remember when all we lived on was breads like Wonder white bread (which we all now know is really yucky stuff! :barf3:). I'm talking back in the 60's/70's--my generation, I guess. You didn't see as many obese people walking around then as you do now. I don't know if it's because people are getting less exercise because of a little thing called the internet or if there's just something in the water nowadays. lol! I dunno, I just find it interesting is all.

I also agree with the above statement(s) in reference the the no carb "Atkins" diet. I tried it once, lost and gained back the weight. :cross2: My sister, however, stayed on it and it totally whacked out her system. I think she even damaged her kidneys. I remember she had to be treated for something because of that stupid diet. It turned out to be a bit of a nightmare for her. :rolleyes:

[LostBeatleFan]

Supermarket bread is laden with preservatives and stuff to keep it soft for longer. It gives it a very powdery taste in my opinion.

I started making my own bread about a year ago. I bought myself a lovely bread maker an use that every time I need / fancy a loaf. The bread is ultimately cheaper, is totally fresh, has 100% natural ingrediants and tastes gorgeous!

How much did that cost is it easy to make the bread? how long does it take to make?

btw- Very interesting thanks everyone :)

[GirlWithKaleidoscopeEyes]

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s299/dosgamer3/Vegan%20Pictures/veganpyramid.jpg

That doesn't make much sense...the number of servings of bread, versus combined fruit and vegetables still come out higher on average. Grains have a range of 6-11 servings, and fruits+vegetables only comes out to somewhere between 5 and 9.

[Hari's Chick]

Oh I see what you mean, that's true. I think they are saying it is cool to eat all the fruits and veggies you want to... it's like minimum number of suggested servings? Basically you can really mack down the veggies and fruits and more power to you for it, I think. :smile1:

[VersusBatman]

Although if you are diabetic, you have to be careful not to eat too much starchy food or it will wreck havoc on your blood sugar.

[Hari's Chick]

That's very true~ fruit as well. I think diabetics can eat all the veggies they want though?

[Magill]

I think for most, HC. But I think some vegies have starches in them, like potatoes and yams. If I'm not mistaken..:thinker:

[VersusBatman]

That's very true~ fruit as well. I think diabetics can eat all the veggies they want though?
Green leafy veggies are OK. Root vegtebles should be regulated carefully since they do have a lot of starch.

[FPSHOT]

Can somebody please explain how bread is linked to pizza in this .... quiz?

[Magill]

Can somebody please explain how bread is linked to pizza in this .... quiz?
Because it's made with the same ingredients as bread.

[hibgal]

Well, if pizza is bread, so are pies, cakes, dumplings, cookies, yorkshire pudding...

I guess bread is pretty fattening, isn't it? :devious:

[Harbidge]

Well, no. Pizzabase is essentially bread (I know because I make it frequently). Pies and all that are pastries, Yorkshire puds are battermix (like pancakes) and cakes are, well, cakes. :p

But bread is incredibly fattening. Bread flour has so many calories and salt in it. Something like 8 slices of standard white bread has half your daily salt allowance and 400 or so calories.

[Hari's Chick]

I guess bread is pretty fattening, isn't it? :devious:

No, not at all.


Here is word from the Mayo clinic.... George trusted them which gives them credence for me..

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/whole-grains/NU00204



Also see number four here~ "increase whole grains [breads]"~

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-healthy-diet/NU00196

[Magill]

Well, if pizza is bread, so are pies, cakes, dumplings, cookies, yorkshire pudding...

EWWWWW! You put yeast in your baked goodies?!? :barf3: Good GAWD!
And yes. There is yeast is pizza dough. That is what makes it bread-like. I know because I make my own pizza. Most of the time. :smile1:

[VersusBatman]

Well yeah, you need yeast to make donuts and cinnamon rolls.

[digdad]

Yeast donuts are the best kind!

And you don't technically need yeast for bread, thus unleavened breads like Matzo, Tortillas, Lefse, Lavash, etc. A pancake falls under this category too.

Mmmmmm, pancakes. :drool:

[hibgal]

But bread is incredibly fattening. Bread flour has so many calories and salt in it. Something like 8 slices of standard white bread has half your daily salt allowance and 400 or so calories.

Well, Harb, I was actually not being entirely serious. But, being serious for a moment here, "bread" is such a huge area that it's impossible to generalize! Croissants are bread made of puff pastry, for instance. They contain loads of fat. On the other end of the scale you have some of the dark whole grain rye breads that are usually baked without any added fat at all but are shock full of food fibres and rich in nutrients, particularly iron and selenium, two elements we cannot function without. As always moderation is the key. In fact, usually it's what we eat with the bread that is fattening, not the bread itself. It's the total amount of calories we consume not a particular food group that cause the problem.

As to standard white bread, it's known to be one of the least healthy choices out there and not a particularly good example for the healthy qualities of most bread. Baking your own is excellent though, and will almost certainly provide you with a healther alternative than the standard white. :thumbu2:

[Magill]

Well yeah, you need yeast to make donuts and cinnamon rolls.
That is true. But I don't know of any recipes for cookies, cakes or pie crusts that use yeast. Baking powder is used in making those kind of desserts, such as cakes, for them to rise. I consider donuts and cinnamons rolls to be like sweet breads. Not to be confused with cows glands. A totally different type of sweetbread. :laugh5: