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Maggie Mae

Jan 03, 2003, 08:55 PM

What do you guys think of the film "Backbeat"? The first time I saw it, I was really impressed by the actors... but the more I watch it, the more critical I get of the accents, the mannerisms (although the guy playing John is really brilliant sometimes) and the guys playing all the songs... well, they kinda suck (at least compared to our loveable mop-tops!! Maybe on their own they'd be fine!) What's your take??

Savoy Truffle

Jan 03, 2003, 09:13 PM

Well, I only watched it once and I generally find that I really don't care for movies about my real life heroes because there are always so many innaccuracies and I'm always disappointed. And I kind of was.I thought the guy playing John Lennon was the best but I agree that their performance of the Beatle's songs did not come anywhere close to the real thing! But I did think Backbeat was better than a lot of movies like this! But I recall not liking the portrayal of George!
(My favorite Beatle, of course!)

HeyBeatle

Jan 04, 2003, 05:42 AM

I still have yet to be able to even find Backbeat. I found the soundtrack once at a Barnes and Noble but I didn't see the point of getting it having never even seen the movie. I'd like to see it.

HMVNipper

Jan 04, 2003, 06:06 AM

I like this movie -- but that's probably because by the time I saw it, I'd MADE it about a million times in my own head! I think the point of Backbeat was to capture a feeling, a moment in time -- and in that respect, it does it very well. Astrid was consultant to the film, and if she felt it did a good job, I am inclined to believe it probably did...

Just as an aside, the guy who plays John in this film, Ian Hart, also played him previously in a small indie film called "The Hours and Times," which was a speculative look at what might have happened on that trip John took with Brian to Barcelona in 1963. (It shows up on the Independent Film or Sundance Channels every so often, and sometimes in gay film festivals -- we taped it when it was on TV.) I think he does a very credible job playing John in both cases.

jtal909

Jan 04, 2003, 07:04 AM

I also liked this movie and the soundtrack as well. I think it was a benefit that they didn't try to sound like the Beatles and chose to do rock and roll covers. they were trying to capture the attitude. And with the exception of Paul (who had a small role anyway), they didn't try to look like the Beatles either which I also liked.
The slant towards Sutcliff and Kirschner was interesting as well. The movie has spirit.

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Claudia78

Jan 04, 2003, 10:04 AM

Oh,yeah!I've got the movie on VHS and sometime I rewatch it.
It's a nice and romantic movie centered on Stu and Astrid and the relationship between John and Stu. That's why Paul and George have been put aside.
But I like it anyway,the music is gorgeous and the actors are soooo cute!!! graemlins/inlove1.gif
They made a great mistake on the movie:John sang "I saw her standing there",while it is a very well known Paul's song.
And I've read somewhere that Paul took very bad this little mistake!
Claudia

lennon4

Jan 04, 2003, 10:35 AM

I like this movie, although I rarely watch it. The soundtrack, in my opinion, is horrible. It's not even close to sounding like the Beatles.

To add to what Susan said about the Lennon character, Ian Hart -- Hart can also be seen portraying Professor Quirrell in the first Harry Potter movie.

-lennon4

jtal909

Jan 04, 2003, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted By lennon4:
I like this movie, although I rarely watch it. The soundtrack, in my opinion, is horrible. It's not even close to sounding like the Beatles

-lennon4They wisely chose not to try to copy the Beatles. they have some good rock and roll arrangements and play with attitude.

mojolawoman

Jan 04, 2003, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted By HeyBeatle:
I still have yet to be able to even find Backbeat. I found the soundtrack once at a Barnes and Noble but I didn't see the point of getting it having never even seen the movie. I'd like to see it.to heybeatle, i found my vhs copy of BackBeat on Half.com... but you might want to try amazon too images/icons/smile.gif goodluck

beatlegirl9977

Jan 04, 2003, 11:39 PM

I like the movie. Sure, it's not the greatest movie that's ever been made...but it's a LOT better than a lot of other "before they were the Beatles" TV movies I've seen!

HMVNipper

Jan 04, 2003, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted By beatlegirl9977:
I like the movie. Sure, it's not the greatest movie that's ever been made...but it's a LOT better than a lot of other "before they were the Beatles" TV movies I've seen!Oh GOD yes! Has anyone ever seen that AWFUL TV movie from the late 70s that Dick Clark produced called "Birth of the Beatles?" UGH, UGH, UGH! graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

Backbeat is MUCH better than THAT!

beatlegirl9977

Jan 04, 2003, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted By HMVNipper:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />Originally Posted By beatlegirl9977:
I like the movie. Sure, it's not the greatest movie that's ever been made...but it's a LOT better than a lot of other "before they were the Beatles" TV movies I've seen!Oh GOD yes! Has anyone ever seen that AWFUL TV movie from the late 70s that Dick Clark produced called "Birth of the Beatles?" UGH, UGH, UGH! graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

Backbeat is MUCH better than THAT!<hr /></blockquote>That's precisely the one I had in mind, Susan! Blecchh...I saw that one when I was about 13 or 14 as the Saturday Afternoon Movie on one of the local stations here, and it nauseated me even then.

Thrillington

Jan 05, 2003, 01:33 PM

for me are a good film, with good points of history and good like opf the actors in the role of the Beatles

Maggie Mae

Jan 05, 2003, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by HMVNipper
Just as an aside, the guy who plays John in this film, Ian Hart, also played him previously in a small indie film called "The Hours and Times," which was a speculative look at what might have happened on that trip John took with Brian to Barcelona in 1963. (It shows up on the Independent Film or Sundance Channels every so often, and sometimes in gay film festivals -- we taped it when it was on TV.) I think he does a very credible job playing John in both cases. It's funny you should mention that; yesterday I stumbled across that film at a library here in town and I watched it last night. I really enjoyed it - though that bathroom scene was a bit hard to digest; I have a hard time speculating that Brian would have let his intimate feelings get in the way of the his professional relationship with John... though, in the movie, it was John who made the first move. But I know that it's only speculation. Thanks for bringing that up!!

lennon4 - When I saw Harry Potter for the first time, I was like - WHOA, it's John Lennon! graemlins/laugh5.gif

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Magill

Jan 06, 2003, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted By lennon4:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />Originally Posted By Maggie Mae:
lennon4 - When I saw Harry Potter for the first time, I was like - WHOA, it's John Lennon! graemlins/laugh5.gif I know exactly what you mean! My friend, Jesse, looks similar to John (in my opinion), and the Harry Potter kid looks almost exactly like Jesse did at that age. lol

-lennon4<hr /></blockquote>That explains why my daughter likes that actor so much. He's got the Lennon action goin' on! graemlins/wink3.gif

Savoy Truffle

Jan 06, 2003, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by HMVNipper:

[B] Oh GOD yes! Has anyone ever seen that AWFUL TV movie from the late 70s that Dick Clark produced called "Birth of the Beatles?" UGH, UGH, UGH! graemlins/laugh5.gif graemlins/laugh5.gif graemlins/laugh5.gif

I think George Harrison may have felt the same way about this!

Did anyone here read his interview with Creem magazine from 87, 88? Where he goes on a little Rant and completely disses Dick Clark? I think it was sparked by the interviewer mentioning this movie! George was really hilarious! To this day whenever I see Dick Clark on television I think of this and can hardly keep a straght face!

I think this may have been mentioned at BeatleLinks before but you can read it at Creem's website www.creemmagazine.com (http://www.creemmagazine.com) - Go to The Beat Goes On, scroll down and on the left you'll see From The Vaults(George Harrison). There's also a review of Brainwashed(favorable)

lennon4

Jan 06, 2003, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted By Maggie Mae:
lennon4 - When I saw Harry Potter for the first time, I was like - WHOA, it's John Lennon! graemlins/laugh5.gif I know exactly what you mean! My friend, Jesse, looks similar to John (in my opinion), and the Harry Potter kid looks almost exactly like Jesse did at that age. lol

-lennon4

Beatle Chick

Jan 10, 2003, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted By lennon4:
I like this movie, although I rarely watch it. The soundtrack, in my opinion, is horrible. It's not even close to sounding like the Beatles.

To add to what Susan said about the Lennon character, Ian Hart -- Hart can also be seen portraying Professor Quirrell in the first Harry Potter movie.

-lennon4Sorry to hear you didn't like the music! I have
to say I loved it! In fact Chris O'Neil who
played George in the film has his own Beatles
Tribute band called The BackBeat Beatles!
I've seen the band twice now, and I have to
say they are the best Beatles Tribute band
that the Uk has!

check out their website at:
www.backbeatbeatles.com (http://www.backbeatbeatles.com)

The band are:
John - Paul McDonough
Paul - Chris O'Neil
George - Gary Harman
Ringo - Dave Reilly

They also have their own band called Water!

www.abandcalledwater.com (http://www.abandcalledwater.com)

Check out their website to sample some of their
music!

with love from me to you

Beatle Chick xx

Danoota64

Jan 10, 2003, 09:28 AM

My local library has this movie and i rented it a few years ago....it made me a fan of Stephen Dorff, that's for sure. He was so cool as Stu.
But i also did not like the music.

And Savoy Truffle, thanks for the creem link!

graemlins/peace.gif

hyderboy

Jan 10, 2003, 03:12 PM

I read an article where Ringo said that they consulted him on how they could accomplish the authentic Hamburg-Beatles sound, and he told them," DON'T try to sound like the Beatles, because even the Beatles didn't sound like the Beatles back then."

I like the soundtrack, my favorite cut is Slown Down.

Savoy Truffle

Jan 10, 2003, 04:42 PM

Ya know, Hyderboy, I remember reading that quote from Ringo a while back, too. Good advice, isn't it!

hyderboy

Jan 10, 2003, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted By Savoy Truffle:
Ya know, Hyderboy, I remember reading that quote from Ringo a while back, too. Good advice, isn't it!graemlins/rocknroll2.gif

AmericanBeatle

Jan 10, 2003, 06:44 PM

I haven't had the pleasure, or displeasure depending on whom you might listen to, of seeing this film.
I did, however, see some others that were just awful. I want to get opinions on those films, so instead of wasting Maggie Mae's space, I'll start another topic.
But, Maggie Mae, thanks for the idea!

hyderboy

Jan 12, 2003, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted By beatlegirl9977:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />Originally Posted By HMVNipper:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />Originally Posted By beatlegirl9977:
I like the movie. Sure, it's not the greatest movie that's ever been made...but it's a LOT better than a lot of other "before they were the Beatles" TV movies I've seen!Oh GOD yes! Has anyone ever seen that AWFUL TV movie from the late 70s that Dick Clark produced called "Birth of the Beatles?" UGH, UGH, UGH! graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

Backbeat is MUCH better than THAT!<hr /></blockquote>That's precisely the one I had in mind, Susan! Blecchh...I saw that one when I was about 13 or 14 as the Saturday Afternoon Movie on one of the local stations here, and it nauseated me even then.<hr /></blockquote>I got my Dick Clark version out tonight and watched some of it. The Beatles in collarless suits for their Ed Sullivan debut?...Their first song is I Want To Hold Your Hand instead of All My Loving?

It is lame, though I didn't think so when it first aired. Back then Beatlemaniacs had to live on a starvation diet, I was glad to get any kind of Beatle entertainment. graemlins/tongue9.gif

Dick Clark may be full of himself, and he may have missed it on the Beatles (more than once!), but he did OK by me in general. The year before his Beatle presentation he really did a great one on Elvis, played by Kurt Russell. IMO, he nailed that pretty good. graemlins/clap3.gif

kris engine

Feb 10, 2003, 12:44 PM

Backbeat is great, Stephen Dorff is very good. The band playing the music are ont the guys in the film btw, it's a selection of famous guys from mid90's rock bands, REM etc.

Beatlesgal

Feb 11, 2003, 08:06 AM

HariScruff_00

Feb 11, 2003, 08:26 AM

I remember seeing an interview with Astrid, I think it was in DayTrippin magazine, where she said that a couple of the scenes were intentionally innacurate. One was that Stu died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital and not in their appartment. and the other was John's initial reaction to hearing about Stu's death.

PaulsPrincess

Feb 11, 2003, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted By Beatlesgal:
I've got to say that once I got past the way they didn't look incredibly like them, which could be expected, I really enjoyed the movie. I thought the guy that played George did wonderfully with his lines, and the John and Stu were superb. I was definitely impressed with this movie, and it was very obvious that a lot of time was taken in determining even the smallest details. If you haven't seen it, you should. images/icons/smile.gif I totally agree with you Beatlesgal! I won a used copy on eBay and will watch it from time to time. It may not be completely acurate as far as appearances and vocals go but I think that they succeded in getting their point across and giving you the feeling of the time.
And I must admit it made me cry the first time I watched it... graemlins/cry2.gif

sleepybomb

Apr 25, 2003, 12:26 PM

for some reason i pulled this viddy off the shelf night before last, sat in front the telly w/ a glass of vino and enjoyed this movie again! then yesterday i get an e-mail from amazon that this is coming out on dvd, (i had put in a request for it). too cool ,my viddy is wearing thin.
i think ian hart is incredible as john and the soundtrack music is just great. . . what a line up!
i found 'the hours and the times' dvd a few yrs back, and while some of it is a little unsettling, it does make for good cinema, and just the thought of making a flick based on speculation always intrigued me, and of course, once again, ian hart makes a great lennon!

Hari Krishna

Apr 25, 2003, 02:12 PM

I haven't seen the movie yet but here's what Roger Ebert thinks about it.

Ebert's Thoughts (http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/1994/04/916304.html)

I heard that Paul didn't like it too much since they gave Long Tall Sally to the John character when Paul was the one who sang the song.

HariScruff_00

Apr 25, 2003, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted By Hari Krishna:
I heard that Paul didn't like it too much since they gave Long Tall Sally to the John character when Paul was the one who sang the song.If that was his only complaint about it then I'd say that ain't too bad.

and Thanks for the Ebert review! Sometimes he can be a sap but i often end up agreeing with his reviews... He sure does like A Hard Day's Night.

WooD$TocK

Apr 26, 2003, 01:09 AM

I think the movie is good and I like Stephen Dorf who played Stu. One thing that bothered me was the music. Id rather hear the real Beatles than the studio- musicians from the 90s. They cant make the real dirty feeling which the Beatles had when they played in Hamburg. But maybe it would be quite hard to get the little music that was recorded in Hamburg. Maybe you could us the songs from Star Club or just some live recordings from the 60s when they did some old covers. graemlins/images/icons/confused.gif

dovetail

Apr 26, 2003, 02:19 AM

It's a classic 1990's Arthouse film. I want it on DVD NOW!!! images/icons/frown.gif 'The Hours & the Times' is very good too. images/icons/cool.gif

Beatle Neil

Apr 30, 2003, 02:05 PM

Backbeat beats the backbone out of that 'Birth of the Beatles' nonesense - it was on UK TV a few years ago and to people's surprise I turned over halfway thru, well to be exact just after the John character says to the Hamburg audience about his mother dying "....when I was 14"
WRONG!!
About 20 minutes before this in the film while they're still the leather clad early Beatles, the bit where one of 'em kicks a footy that smashes someone's window.....well, no offence intended here folks, but being American he didn't really know how to kick a football properly...and that didn't look very good at all!

The only major gripe I have with Backbeat is the way they gave 'Stu' a strong scouse accent.....WRONG AGAIN!!

lennonluvr9

Apr 30, 2003, 06:44 PM

I have actually not seen this movie but I would like to. It seems kinda interesting...

Maggie Mae

Apr 30, 2003, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted By Beatle Neil:
The only major gripe I have with Backbeat is the way they gave 'Stu' a strong scouse accent.....WRONG AGAIN!!Forgive me for being so out of the loop here, but I thought Stu was from Liverpool?

Beatle Neil

Apr 30, 2003, 07:34 PM

He was, as I am too, but not everyone from here talks that way.
Listening to his sister Pauline Sutcliffe talk you'd think she was from Cambridge!

HMVNipper

Apr 30, 2003, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted By Beatle Neil:
He was, as I am too, but not everyone from here talks that way.
Listening to his sister Pauline Sutcliffe talk you'd think she was from Cambridge!That is SO true -- I met Pauline about a year and a half ago and you can't tell she's from Liverpool by the way she talks.

Even the Beatles' thick accents were put-ons half the time -- admittedly, George and Ringo had thicker accents than John and Paul, but even John's accent...if he REALLY spoke that way growing up, his Auntie would've smacked him upside the head and told him to stop "sounding common!" images/icons/wink.gif

It's kind of like saying that all New Yorkers sound like Archie Bunker or Fran Drescher...well, I'm a native New Yorker, and while it is clear where I come from when I speak, I DON'T speak like either of them and never have.

Maggie Mae

May 01, 2003, 07:07 PM

The whole thing with dialects... I never understood how people can tell where a person was from just from how they speak. But that's when I started really listening to the CBC and watching alt Canadian films at the local movie houses, and I can really hear the difference in the way I speak compared with how they speak in Ontario or out in the maritimes, or even, to a certain extent, on the west coast, even though I'm sure people from other countries wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

But that some people can pinpoint a very specific region or even a city... is that something that you learn or do you just *know* that this person is from London and that person is from Cambridge?

Ah well, I don't want to send this topic spiralling down a totally diferent path... I guess I should take that regional dialects course at the uni next year after all! images/icons/wink.gif

beatlegirl9977

May 01, 2003, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted By Maggie Mae:

But that some people can pinpoint a very specific region or even a city... is that something that you learn or do you just *know* that this person is from London and that person is from Cambridge?

Ah well, I don't want to send this topic spiralling down a totally diferent path... I guess I should take that regional dialects course at the uni next year after all! images/icons/wink.gif (Ah, dialects are a fun topic! images/icons/smile.gif )

I think you just develop an ear for accents over time. There's certain little subtleties in the language that help you identify where that person is from...especially now that I've met people from all around the U.S., I can differentiate between someone from New York and someone from Maryland and someone from Chicago and someone from Minnesota, etc. Another way is, not necessarily the pronunciation of words, but also what words are used...the old submarine sandwich/hoagie/hero/grinder/poor boy discussion is the best example I can think of. images/icons/smile.gif

DizzymissLizzy909

May 01, 2003, 07:52 PM

I feel a little stupid mentioning this, but I remember reading that Stu was from Scotland... did he have a bit of a Scottish accent? I never thought he was from Liverpool... but I could be wrong!
By the way, I'm Lizzy. I joined the forum about two months ago, but haven't posted much yet. Hope to change that as of now, though! images/icons/smile.gif

onosideboards

May 02, 2003, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted By kris engine:
Backbeat is great, Stephen Dorff is very good. The band playing the music are ont the guys in the film btw, it's a selection of famous guys from mid90's rock bands, REM etc.what are you talking about?? REM (and who do you mean by "etc"??) is not playing the songs. besides, someone else just said that the john guy has his own band.

are you confusing "backbeat" with the soundtrack to "i shot andy warhol"??

onosideboards

May 02, 2003, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted By sleepybomb:

i found 'the hours and the times' dvd a few yrs back, and while some of it is a little unsettling, it does make for good cinema, and just the thought of making a flick based on speculation always intrigued me, and of course, once again, ian hart makes a great lennon!where did you find "hours and the times" on DVD? i can't find it anywhere and amazon doesn't acknowledge it. i've never seen it so i just ordered a crappy, under $5 copy from half.com.

Hari Krishna

May 02, 2003, 09:54 PM

Wasn't "Hours and The Times" the film about John Lennon being gay or something like that?

Dr. Dreamer

May 03, 2003, 10:05 AM

Stuart was born in Scotland (June 23,1940). The Sutcliffe's moved to Liverpool when Stu was very young, before age five I think.

lennon4

May 03, 2003, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted By Hari Krishna:
Wasn't "Hours and The Times" the film about John Lennon being gay or something like that?The film is speculative of what might have happened on Brian and John's vacation to Spain in 1963 (?). There is a lot of dialogue concerning Brian's homosexuality. There is the infamous "bathtub scene" and another scene that implied more than what is shown.

The thing to remember is that the film is not based on anything that was ever confirmed by Brian or John.

-lennon4

Maggie Mae

May 03, 2003, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted By DizzymissLizzy909:
I feel a little stupid mentioning this, but I remember reading that Stu was from Scotland... did he have a bit of a Scottish accent? I never thought he was from Liverpool... but I could be wrong!
By the way, I'm Lizzy. I joined the forum about two months ago, but haven't posted much yet. Hope to change that as of now, though! images/icons/smile.gif Hee hee... I know you!!! Welcome Lizzy! How's C-Town? images/icons/smile.gif

HMVNipper

May 04, 2003, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted By beatlegirl9977:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />Originally Posted By Maggie Mae:

But that some people can pinpoint a very specific region or even a city... is that something that you learn or do you just *know* that this person is from London and that person is from Cambridge?

Ah well, I don't want to send this topic spiralling down a totally diferent path... I guess I should take that regional dialects course at the uni next year after all! images/icons/wink.gif (Ah, dialects are a fun topic! images/icons/smile.gif )

I think you just develop an ear for accents over time. There's certain little subtleties in the language that help you identify where that person is from...especially now that I've met people from all around the U.S., I can differentiate between someone from New York and someone from Maryland and someone from Chicago and someone from Minnesota, etc. Another way is, not necessarily the pronunciation of words, but also what words are used...the old submarine sandwich/hoagie/hero/grinder/poor boy discussion is the best example I can think of. images/icons/smile.gif <hr /></blockquote>Ah, dialect and accent -- a GREAT discussion topic. Maybe we should move this discussion over to Paperback Writer? images/icons/wink.gif

Tina's right -- you do develop an ear for that kind of thing over time. And I guess that it depends on where you are from yourself -- I can sometimes tell in extremely general terms where in the UK someone might be from, but I can't pinpoint it as closely as someone who lives there might. On the other hand, I can usually tell the difference between a Long Island accent and one from the Bronx, and that's still part of the general New York metro area! I guess it's what you are used to hearing -- to the casual listener, my accent (I'm originally from Queens) and that of someone from Long Island or Brooklyn would probably sound the same, but I can hear nuances that others might not be able to discern because I grew up here and have heard New York accents all my life.

Tina's right, too, about regional words -- for example, I (and most of my NYC Metro brethren) would call a can of Coca-Cola a "soda." However, if you ask for a "soda" in certain parts of the midwest, you'd get a plain seltzer water (and old-timers in NYC would call THAT a "2-cents plain!") and you'd call the can of Coke a "pop." In New England some people would call that plain seltzer a "tonic." (And they'd SAY "TAW-nic"!)

A really good example of being able to tell where someone's from -- and as far as I know, ONLY really observant native New Yorkers would know this, too -- when I'm standing in a queue of people, for example, waiting to get on a bus, I'm ON line. Everyone else except people from the immediate New York City metro area stands IN line. I've never stood "IN" line in my life! images/icons/wink.gif

I could go on and on about this -- it makes for a really interesting discussion. If anyone would care to take this over to Paperback Writer, I'm game...it might make a good discussion for writers!

(BTW, Maggie Mae, I DON'T think I could tell the subtle differences in most Canadian accents -- though I think I could tell if a person was from Quebec or Ontario. Beyond that, nope... images/icons/wink.gif )

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sleepybomb

May 04, 2003, 06:32 AM

here is a link to amazon for 'the hours and times' . . . 'the hours and times' @ amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000766F7/qid%3D1052057763/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-4992253-2730353)
. . . they have some on the new and used thingy for fairly cheap, (where i copped mine).
as for dialects, i moved to new orleans from las vegas at 13 and was amazed at how they talked!
it is a mix of cajun and creole and some of this and that. . .but it not a southern drawl, more like brooklynese!
in the sixties many students from the northeast came to school at tulane, which is one of the best medical/law schools in the country.
well, all these kids would hear the locals say, 'where are you at?', but to them it sounded like, 'we're yat', so they started calling the locals'yats'. . . and it stuck!
i guess i am proud to be a yat!

Maggie Mae

May 06, 2003, 06:45 PM

Susan, I did make up a new topic, all about dialects, over in the Paperback Writer forum... I hope that was the right place for it, and if not, well... someone will move it!

Apple Scruff

Feb 14, 2004, 01:25 PM

I actually saw this film this morning. I rented it from the library because it looked kind of...interesting. And I thought, what the heck!

Even though, of course, most of the actors don't really look like the actual people, though close enough, I found the movie to be excellent. I especially have to praise the guy who played John. I thought he did an excellent job presenting John, who in my opinion would be the most difficult Beatle to present. The guy who played George was good, though he didn't look like my George one bit. But he was cute in the way he was so innocent, which I think George was at the time. The Paul guy was good, and the Stu character was wonderful.

But hats off to that Ian guy, once again. I finished with this whole different perspective of the relationship between Stu and John. He did such an incredibly moving job, in my opinion. And in his own Julian Lennon/Thom Yorke looking way, he was really handsome. (Can you tell I dug his performance?)

One more thing: Astrid was cool! Just in general, as a person...she absolutely rocked! I forgot how much she really influenced the Beatles with the haircuts, and how beautiful her love for them was...she seems so...rad. Totally awesome lady. images/icons/smile.gif

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