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VersusBatman
Jan 07, 2008, 08:27 AM
I found an interesting recipe book at the library. It's for people who eat their food raw. It not only excludes meat, dairy and eggs, but also sugar and salt. People who are for this lifestyle say it's not healthy to cook food because cooking kills important enzymes that help your body. In this book, there's main dishes, soup, even desserts.

The New AimeeAndBeatles
Jan 07, 2008, 08:30 AM
It might be dangerous for me -- I have a bit of a weakened immune system, so I'm likely to get sick from bacteria and stuff that cooking kills.

digdad
Jan 07, 2008, 08:32 AM
Someone I used to work with was heavily into this. He would woof down raw sweet potatoes!

Sure some foods are best raw, but some need a bit of cooking to break down essential bits to make them more fully digestible for humans. We aren't all blessed with multiple stomachs.

VersusBatman
Jan 07, 2008, 08:35 AM
That is true. Potatoes for instance, not only taste nasty raw, but is hard to digest.

I've looked through vegan cook books and they have recipes that look tasty. But I couldn't stomach most of the raw food recipes. Especially the soup. To me, soup is meant to be eaten hot.

digdad
Jan 07, 2008, 08:46 AM
I've got to agree about the raw soups. I'm not even crazy about the most established of the bunch, gazpacho. It's just sort of runny salsa, or chunky V8, take your pick.

VersusBatman
Jan 07, 2008, 08:49 AM
The only positive about the raw food diet is very little dishes to be washed.

hibgal
Jan 07, 2008, 10:01 AM
My sister in law was once into this sort of stuff. I liked the sprouts, the lactic veggies (think sauerkraut or cimchi) and their milk and cream substitutes are great, especially if you allow yourself a bit of honey or raw sugar to sweeten them. I still make the sesame milk now and then and the almond creme is scrumptious. Raw potatoes? Only as a last resort! :teeth1:

Georgie Girl
Jan 07, 2008, 10:08 AM
I don't think I would eat meat raw, not even steak tartare.
There is a reason humans started cooking meat. :afraid2:

I think we're fine without a few enzymes.

VersusBatman
Jan 07, 2008, 10:10 AM
Raw foodists don't eat meat.

Georgie Girl
Jan 07, 2008, 10:40 AM
Oh, I see you said they DON'T eat meat, etc.
Thank goodness. :afraid2:

I have no snap today. :sleep1:
I'm missing a few enzymes, no doubt.

digdad
Jan 07, 2008, 10:45 AM
I once had raw meat..at a Lebanese restaurant in a mall food court..in Mexico. (Yes, it was a translation issue, but I ate it.) No problems. I got sick the following week though after eating a burger from Burger King.

My sister in law was once into this sort of stuff. I liked the sprouts, the lactic veggies (think sauerkraut or cimchi) and their milk and cream substitutes are great, especially if you allow yourself a bit of honey or raw sugar to sweeten them. I still make the sesame milk now and then and the almond creme is scrumptious. Raw potatoes? Only as a last resort! :teeth1:
Lactic veggies? I assume that means fermented--so natural "cooking" is allowed?

The New AimeeAndBeatles
Jan 07, 2008, 11:16 AM
Lactic: Of or relating to or obtained from milk (especially sour milk or whey)

VersusBatman
Jan 07, 2008, 11:25 AM
Lactic veggies? I assume that means fermented--so natural "cooking" is allowed?
Yes it is allowed. So is dehydration. Many of the recipies require the use of a food dehydrator.

jesgear
Jan 07, 2008, 11:58 AM
I would never eat anything in the raw; I'm too modest :blush4:

VersusBatman
Jan 07, 2008, 12:01 PM
lol!

jesgear
Jan 07, 2008, 12:05 PM
Could I at least wear a bib?

Asha
Jan 07, 2008, 03:42 PM
I don't know that I would like everything raw, but there are certainly fruits & veggies that have a better flavour if they're lightly steamed or raw. I do know that if you cook veggies, it's good to drink the water they were cooked or steamed in because some vitamins will be in the water. I usually do that when I steam stuff because it doesn't use a lot of water.

Beatle Girl
Jan 07, 2008, 03:56 PM
I've done it in Paris, and trust me when I tell you that it is not good :barf3:

:laugh5:

Magill
Jan 07, 2008, 04:35 PM
haha! When I saw the thread title, I thought maybe VB was being a bit kinky!

Asha
Jan 07, 2008, 04:36 PM
haha! When I saw the thread title, I thought maybe VB was being a bit kinky!

Didn't you know that she liked to eat her food in the buff? :laugh5:

(Nothing is sacred on Links! :devious: )

Georgie Girl
Jan 07, 2008, 04:48 PM
haha! When I saw the thread title, I thought maybe VB was being a bit kinky!
That's what I thought of too! :laugh5:

Magill
Jan 07, 2008, 04:49 PM
Well, it's no secret my mind resides in the gutter. Just ask BG or HP! :laugh5:

Asha
Jan 07, 2008, 04:50 PM
Well, it's no secret my mind resides in the gutter. Just ask BG or HP! :laugh5:

Oh I can vouch for that! :laugh5:

Georgie Girl
Jan 07, 2008, 04:51 PM
Well, it's no secret my mind resides in the gutter. Just ask BG or HP! :laugh5:
And to think you thought that of a good upstanding Mormon woman! :nono5: :laugh5:

Georgie Girl
Jan 07, 2008, 04:52 PM
Oh I can vouch for that! :laugh5:
Funny, I've never seen Mags at Crackerbox Palace in the old days. :wink2:

digdad
Jan 07, 2008, 04:52 PM
Didn't you know that she liked to eat her food in the buff? :laugh5:
Well, you do save money. No need for napkins.

Asha
Jan 07, 2008, 04:54 PM
Well, you do save money. No need for napkins.

:rolling3:

:tongue1: :tongue1: :tongue1:

:clap2:

digdad
Jan 07, 2008, 04:55 PM
And now you know what she means when she invites you over for breakfast with the promise of sticky buns.

Georgie Girl
Jan 07, 2008, 04:56 PM
And now you know what she means when she invites you over for breakfast with the promise of sticky buns.
That's Pinky! :laugh5:

Magill
Jan 07, 2008, 04:59 PM
Oh I can vouch for that! :laugh5:

Let me re-phrase--ask anyone here that knows me--or anyone that has read my posts. Ok--that's pretty much anyone! :laugh2:

Georgie Girl
Jan 07, 2008, 05:01 PM
Let me re-phrase--ask anyone here that knows me--or anyone that has read my posts. Ok--that's pretty much anyone! :laugh2:
The older generation leading this country to gallopin' ruin! :rolleyes:

Magill
Jan 07, 2008, 05:03 PM
The older generation leading this country to gallopin' ruin! :rolleyes:

But--I'm clean.. :angel4:

Asha
Jan 07, 2008, 05:04 PM
And now you know what she means when she invites you over for breakfast with the promise of sticky buns.

Oh I bet Ms Bungrabber knows about sticky buns, too! :laugh5:

digdad
Jan 07, 2008, 05:04 PM
Aye. She is a clean old woman.

Georgie Girl
Jan 07, 2008, 05:05 PM
Oh I bet Ms Bungrabber knows about sticky buns, too! :laugh5:Ew, I hope not! :nono2:

Asha
Jan 07, 2008, 05:13 PM
Ew, I hope not! :nono2:

Nachos is the raw can make for a sticky mess!:laugh5:

VersusBatman
Jan 07, 2008, 06:14 PM
Tsk, tsk, tsk! You all are a bunch of Jezebels! :laugh5:

Georgie Girl
Jan 07, 2008, 06:16 PM
Tsk, tsk, tsk! You all are a bunch of Jezebels! :laugh5::rolling3:

Oops! Busted!

digdad
Jan 07, 2008, 06:19 PM
Busted!
And with crumbs on 'em.

Mccartneyluvr
Jan 07, 2008, 06:19 PM
Oh I bet Ms Bungrabber knows about sticky buns, too! :laugh5:

Once again I get brought up in threads I'm not even a part of! :laugh5:
Trust me, I know about all kinds of buns.:eyebrows:

Georgie Girl
Jan 07, 2008, 06:32 PM
And with crumbs on 'em.
:rolling3:

Once again I get brought up in threads I'm not even a part of! :laugh5:
Think how poor VB feels! :laugh5:

Lynner
Jan 07, 2008, 07:31 PM
So, VB, what made you check out this book in the first place?

VersusBatman
Jan 07, 2008, 07:42 PM
Sheer curiosity. I heard vaguely about it and I happen to see the book. I wanted to know the reasoning behind this kind of diet.

Beatle_soul
Jan 07, 2008, 08:41 PM
I watched this stupid reality show on TV it was one of those wife swap shows and there was this family that lived on a farm and they never cleaned their house and their toilets ATE EVERYTHING RAW INCLUDING MEAT AND EGGS, and brushed their teeth with butter that sits in a glass by the sink.
It was really nasty.

beatlelover45223
Jan 07, 2008, 08:43 PM
The Eskimos, still hunt and eat raw seal, all of it!

I don't think, even if I knew where the animal was from or what it had been fed every day, I would ever eat raw meat! Veggies are great raw, most of them.

VersusBatman
Jan 07, 2008, 08:44 PM
I heard about that! Why did they brush their teeth with butter?

hibgal
Jan 08, 2008, 03:18 AM
Sheer curiosity. I heard vaguely about it and I happen to see the book. I wanted to know the reasoning behind this kind of diet.

Well, I don't know what the book said but the thought is that heating the food destroys the vitamins, which is true about vitamin C at least, and other vital nutrients. I'm doubtful of the claim but some people suffering arthritic conditions are helped by this type of diet, probably more because of the lack of salt and other additives than because the food isn't cooked. Most people eat way too little veggies, you know.

VersusBatman
Jan 08, 2008, 07:36 AM
I like greens raw. Cooked lettuce is nasty, but I think it's a bit extreme to abolish all cooking.

Magill
Jan 08, 2008, 08:51 AM
I watched this stupid reality show on TV it was one of those wife swap shows and there was this family that lived on a farm and they never cleaned their house and their toilets ATE EVERYTHING RAW INCLUDING MEAT AND EGGS, and brushed their teeth with butter that sits in a glass by the sink.
It was really nasty.
Yucky! I wish I hadn't read this while eating my lunch! :barf3:

FPSHOT
Jan 08, 2008, 08:56 AM
I found an interesting recipe book at the library. It's for people who eat their food raw. It not only excludes meat, dairy and eggs, but also sugar and salt. People who are for this lifestyle say it's not healthy to cook food because cooking kills important enzymes that help your body. In this book, there's main dishes, soup, even desserts.

Can you maybe give some examples?

I mean... we conclude quite fast here now... based on those things which mostly require some cooking or baking

However.. just realise how much you do eat 'raw'.. and yes often it is just because when you cook it or even slice it... a lot of the useful ingredients get cooked or sliced away.

Examples?

Cucumber - if you prefer to slice it... do it lightly... because just under the "skin" is most of the vetamins whereas if you take off that 'skin' most of what is left is water-ish...

digdad
Jan 08, 2008, 08:58 AM
I watched this stupid reality show on TV it was one of those wife swap shows and there was this family that lived on a farm and they never cleaned their house and their toilets ATE EVERYTHING RAW INCLUDING MEAT AND EGGS, and brushed their teeth with butter that sits in a glass by the sink.
Wow. Who needs oatmeal? If you want to lower your cholesterol, just stop brushing your teeth.

VersusBatman
Jan 08, 2008, 09:06 AM
Can you maybe give some examples?

You mean recipies?

Lynner
Jan 08, 2008, 12:27 PM
I'd be interested in reading some of the recipes. Not sure that I'd actually try them, but I admit to being curious.

VersusBatman
Jan 08, 2008, 12:57 PM
Here's one:

Living Pizza
For The Crust
6 cups kamut berries, soaked and sprouted
4 cloves of garlic
1 medium onion
3 tbs pizza seasoning
3 to 4 stalks of celery
2 cups of garbanzo beans, sprouted
Celtic salt to taste

For the pizza sauce
2 cups dried tomatoes
1 cup of water
onion powder to taste
garlic powder to taste
pizza seasoning to taste
2 to 4 dates pureed


Soak the dried tomatoes in the water for 30 to 40 minutes. Saving the water, remove the tomatoes and place into a blender withthe other sauce ingrediants.

Blend to a thick paste-like consistancy. Thin this as needed with the water used for soaking the tomatoes. Sore in a canning jar.

Process the kamut in a food processor, potentially in a couple of batches. Use a smaller food processor to to the onion, celery and garlic, then add to thegrain along with the celtic salt and the pizza seasoning. You may also add a small bit if carrot and carrot juice to give the crust color.

Dollop the mixture onto teflex sheets, flatten to about 7" in diameter and dehydrate until they are the consistancy you desire.

Spread the crust with almond cheese or any other spread. Top with the sauce and any other ingrediants.

sourmilkpinky
Jan 09, 2008, 12:29 PM
No.
My mom used raw sugar when I was a kid...yuck

VersusBatman
Jan 09, 2008, 12:35 PM
What was it like?

sourmilkpinky
Jan 09, 2008, 12:38 PM
grainy....and not all that sweet. But hey, I was a kid, nothing was sweet enough ;)

VersusBatman
Jan 09, 2008, 12:42 PM
Gotta have the sugar and artificial colors and flavors. ;) It's great to be a kid.

sourmilkpinky
Jan 09, 2008, 12:45 PM
True True.
Although moms should be careful.....she also made home-made plain yogurt, and to this day I can't eat yogurt due to bad memories :laugh5:

VersusBatman
Jan 09, 2008, 12:53 PM
Ew!

One of the essential toold of the raw food diet is a juicer. My mom bought a juicer. She had us try carrot juice. Once was enough for us. Nasty stuff.

sourmilkpinky
Jan 09, 2008, 12:55 PM
teehee we had that too.... and other juices.
She made some drink called pep-up, that had vegetable juice and yeast.... more bad memories.

I need to start doing some 'raw food' now though just to cut out the sodium in the diet. Grrrrr

VersusBatman
Jan 09, 2008, 01:01 PM
My grandma made V-8 and it was very good.

I need to start doing some 'raw food' now though just to cut out the sodium in the diet.
How extreme do you have to be?

digdad
Jan 09, 2008, 01:03 PM
teehee we had that too.... and other juices.
She made some drink called pep-up, that had vegetable juice and yeast.... more bad memories.
Wouldn't that be raw beer?

sourmilkpinky
Jan 09, 2008, 01:04 PM
I think we are supposed to keep it under 1000 milligrams per day.... It is very hard.

sourmilkpinky
Jan 09, 2008, 01:04 PM
Wouldn't that be raw beer?

haha maybe that is why I don't like beer :laugh5:

VersusBatman
Jan 09, 2008, 01:05 PM
My father in law has to cut out all salt from his diet. He even buys salt-free condiments.