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**DONOTDELETE**

Apr 25, 2002, 05:14 AM

Do you think they should colorize AHDN?

I think so, as long as they keep the original b/w version.

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Apr 25, 2002, 05:19 AM

I'm not a big fan of colorized movies, only because most black and white movies were made after color film was available. If the director wanted a color film, s/he would have used that in the first place.
I think that a film is more the director's vision than anyone else, although most would disagree and say that it takes many to make a movie. That is true, but if you don't want that particular director's vision, then hire another director.
I prefer the movie as it was originally shot, be it black & white or color, in letterbox, no commercials, etc.

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SF4-EVER

Apr 25, 2002, 06:01 AM

If anyone here has seen You Can't Do That: The Making of A Hard Day's Night, you might recall Phil Collins briefly discussing the B&W vs. color issue. I think they even showed a brief scene in color. They said on the documentary that they decided to make AHDN in B&W to make it seem classic, and Siskel and Ebert commented that they think the film stands up better after so much time because it is in B&W. Personally, I think using B&W helps set the mood of the movie; it helps illustrate how the Beatles were "prisoners" of their own fame. OTOH, one of the nice things about Help! is that you get to see the Beatles in living color... http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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Harbidge

Apr 25, 2002, 09:31 AM

One of the main reason why it wasn't shot in colour was because United Atrists (who produced the film) thought that the Beatles were just going to be a flash in the pan and didn't want to waste valuable colour film on them, opting for the cheaper black and white. The story goes that UA just wanted to make a cheap flick so that they could get their hands on the music rights.

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Apr 25, 2002, 12:34 PM

It wouldn't have been a classic if it was colour.

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HMVNipper

Apr 25, 2002, 12:36 PM

I could give you a huge tirade about colorized films, Beatles or otherwise. I think it's a travesty, and it alters the original vision of the filmmaker.

About a decade ago, there was a huge debacle because Ted Turner (of CNN fame) had acquired the rights to many films and wanted to colorize a lot of the black and white films. The film community was in a total uproar about it. Several films were colorized, much to everyone's dismay. And frankly, I have never enjoyed films that have been colorized as much as I have in their original black and white.

To the topic at hand -- I think AHDN stands up beautifully as a wonderful period piece and a fabulous piece of musical history -- in BLACK AND WHITE! And while I definitely enjoy watching Help!, I've never thought it held up as well as a piece of filmmaking, if you know what I mean...

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Cecilia

Apr 25, 2002, 05:51 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By SF4-EVER:
If anyone here has seen You Can't Do That: The Making of A Hard Day's Night, you might recall Phil Collins briefly discussing the B&W vs. color issue. I think they even showed a brief scene in color. They said on the documentary that they decided to make AHDN in B&W to make it seem classic, and Siskel and Ebert commented that they think the film stands up better after so much time because it is in B&W.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, that's right. It wouldn't been the same if they'd made in color.

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EasternBird

Apr 25, 2002, 06:52 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By HMVNipper:
To the topic at hand -- I think AHDN stands up beautifully as a wonderful period piece and a fabulous piece of musical history -- in BLACK AND WHITE! And while I definitely enjoy watching Help!, I've never thought it held up as well as a piece of filmmaking, if you know what I mean...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree! There's just something about the use of B&W that just makes AHDN all the more special. It makes that one film, and that period of Beatlemania, stand out amongst the others. And in addition, most of those colorized versions end up looking awful anyway! I don't want to see that happen to our lads! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/tongue1.gif

And as much as I love Help, it just doesn't have that certain something AHDN had. Maybe the B&W contributes to that. It certainly makes the contrast between the 2 films all the more apparent. It's hard to believe they were both directed by the same guy!

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LuvLennon

Apr 25, 2002, 08:13 PM

I agree with everyone! I think all those techacolour movies from the 50's and 60's have certain unreal brightness to them, AHDN is classic BECAUSE of the black and white which does lend a realness and a grittyness to it

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bearkat77

Apr 25, 2002, 09:14 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By bandontherun:
Do you think they should colorize AHDN?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/scream3.gif NOOOOOOOOO!!!

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**DONOTDELETE**

Apr 25, 2002, 09:22 PM

http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/scream3.gifNOOOOOOOOO!!! times 10 for me!

It just wouldn't be the same.

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HeyBeatle

Apr 25, 2002, 11:55 PM

I wouldn't want it colorized because I love the nostalgic feel of the black and white. Also if they don't know the exact color of everything in every scene they just pick a color and it often doesn't look right.

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Miss O'Dell

Apr 26, 2002, 07:48 AM

I am writing a dissertation on AHDN at the mo' and I read that it WAS a stylistic choice and it could have been made in colour. Mr. Lester chose B&W in referance to the french new wave (which has a heavy influence in the film) and the British New Wave, and the documenatry tradition to add a sense of gritty realism to the film. Most film academics agree that if AHDN had been made in colour instreadthen it would not have been as influential film as it is and wouldn't hold the academic status it does. So, in answer to should it bve colourised? NO!

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Beatleboy

Apr 26, 2002, 12:58 PM

NO WAY!!! AHDN should be left as it is in B&W. To computer colorize this classic would be a travesty not only for Beatles fans, but the artistic integrity the movie itself. To throw color into the mix would compromise that integrity, and ruin the movie we all know and love.

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shyGirl

Apr 27, 2002, 09:25 AM

Black and white movies in general shouldn't be colorized.

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Apr 27, 2002, 10:00 AM

B&W AHDN - YES http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsup1.gif
Color - No http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsdown.gif

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Apr 27, 2002, 10:08 AM

While i am not a fan of coloyrising AHDN,I do not have in gemeral a problem with it.
One good side benefit is in a lot of cases they had to make a new negative to do colourisation,and in some cases that may well have saved the negative and therefore the movie itself.

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May 17, 2002, 10:10 AM

NO Way!!! There's an old saying,"if it's not broke, don't fix it." I love it in b&w.

Reminds me of the ANTHOLOGY 4 Video when they were talking about Help.
Paul: "They're making a new movie, in color!"
George: "Wow,in color! You see. They had more money for that one."
That's my George. Cynical and truthful as always.

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beatlebangs1964

May 17, 2002, 10:12 AM

NO! DON'T COLOR THIS MOVIE! IT'S A CLASSIC! KEEP IT IN THE B&W IT WAS FILMED IN! THIS IS A TIMELESS 1964 CLASSIC!

Yeah, that's so true. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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darkhorse

May 17, 2002, 07:35 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By beatlebangs1964:
NO! DON'T COLOR THIS MOVIE!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Please don't. Please don't.

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BlueMeanie_64

May 17, 2002, 08:07 PM

I hope it's never released in color. It's would take soooooooo much away from the film.

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May 17, 2002, 11:00 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By bearkat77:
http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/scream3.gif NOOOOOOOOO!!!

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I couldn't agree more!

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karma70

May 19, 2002, 09:47 PM

I agree. I think it'd look awful...I'd still see it though. Out of curiosity.

**DONOTDELETE**

May 20, 2002, 10:08 PM

You know what would be cool? Is if they only put color into Ringo's nose but everything else stayed black and white. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsup2.gif

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May 20, 2002, 10:13 PM

http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/laugh2.gif! What a distraction that would be!

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**DONOTDELETE**

May 20, 2002, 10:15 PM

It already is! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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SF4-EVER

May 21, 2002, 06:20 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By 4thGenFan:
You know what would be cool? Is if they only put color into Ringo's nose but everything else stayed black and white. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsup2.gif

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May 21, 2002, 10:54 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By 4thGenFan:
http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/scream3.gifNOOOOOOOOO!!! times 10 for me!

It just wouldn't be the same.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I agree! It shouldn't be touched!

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JCB410

May 21, 2002, 07:18 PM

I dunno... to me, as long as they kept
the B&W version--(that *is* pretty sacred)
I actually wouldn't mind seeing it in color
or even tinted purple or something... just my
opinion. But there's nothing like the
original.

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May 21, 2002, 09:26 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Lynner:
I agree! It shouldn't be touched!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What? The film or Ringo's nose?

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