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FPSHOT
Aug 27, 2007, 07:39 AM
Remember this song? 1969, the Move before Jeff Lynne joined

"Goodbye Blackberry Way
I can’t see you
I don’t need you
Goodbye Blackberry Way
Sure to want me back another day"

Now we have these things called Blackberry.

It seems especially Business people can't do without them anymore. Well I can and it would probably drive me nuts if I had one.

But then I remember various conversations I had with my Dad in the late 90's where he suggested I got on to the internet and I kept telling him I did not see what that would add and why on earth I would wanna talk to someone at the other side of the globe via a computer.

Things change :smile1:

so how about Blackberry or sortlike technical stuffies?

Rellevart
Aug 27, 2007, 08:09 AM
Hate 'em, hate 'em, hate 'em. It's just another way for people's offices to control them and another way for people to be rude. The world will not end if you can't get ahold of somebody for 20 seconds.

FPSHOT
Aug 27, 2007, 10:15 AM
I see what you mean, yet in the case of being able to contact someone from say an office, like with cell phones you can switch it off? And in case someone sends you an e-mail it would be comparable to an sms?

Unless I am missing something, compared to a simple cell phone that is comparable?

I more have provisinal hold-backs to the additonal techniques on a Blackberry compared to a cell-phone, but I may be really making no sense ...

Harbidge
Aug 27, 2007, 10:26 AM
I love Blackberry Way, cool song - I always thought that it could have been inspired by Strawberry Fields Forever.

Legs
Aug 27, 2007, 10:31 AM
I thought you could eat them.

Rellevart
Aug 27, 2007, 10:49 AM
Yeah, you can switch it off, but most people I know who have them never DO switch them off. And most people whose offices require them to carry one never WANT them to switch it off. I find it really rude when I'm in a meeting and nobody's paying any attention to what I'm saying because they're all frantically reading or typing into their Blackberries.

I have the same issues with cell phones, generally, but phones people will turn off in meetings or movies or whatever because it makes noise and is generally considered rude to have your phone go off. But since the BB is quiet, people keep them on all the time and quickly become slaves to them, or so it seems to me.

sourmilkpinky
Aug 27, 2007, 11:13 AM
what's a blackberry?
I am trying to convince the kid she can still live without a cell phone

FPSHOT
Aug 27, 2007, 11:28 AM
Yeah, you can switch it off, but most people I know who have them never DO switch them off. And most people whose offices require them to carry one never WANT them to switch it off. I find it really rude when I'm in a meeting and nobody's paying any attention to what I'm saying because they're all frantically reading or typing into their Blackberries.

I have the same issues with cell phones, generally, but phones people will turn off in meetings or movies or whatever because it makes noise and is generally considered rude to have your phone go off. But since the BB is quiet, people keep them on all the time and quickly become slaves to them, or so it seems to me.

OK got yah now and that is my main problem with those things too. Social isolation which it can create.

kmac
Aug 27, 2007, 11:49 AM
Yes Rellevart, you are spot on with your observations on the prevalence of rude behavior.

Much of business has gone beyond the point of no return by expecting constant availability from many of their employees... I don't see this trend changing any time soon. But we can expect more etiquette and human decency in personal business dealings.

Business would be better served if people would treat each conversation conducted in-person as the highest priority, all other electronic communication would lay out according to their relative importance.

Phone messages, email, electronic communication etc.are available so that important matters are not overlooked but it is unrealistic to expect that every matter is of the utmost importance. Very few matters are of such pressing importance that they can not be handled within a reasonable period - definition of reasonable will vary by business of course. Many items will not explode if you wait 24 hours to collect your thoughts and respond, but the expectations of customers and employers is unrealistic, their matters are often not as pressing as they believe.

As far as non-business communication interrupting social and business etiquette, I have little tolerance.

All of that being said, I am a technology lover, I can't get enough. But, when technology infringes on common sense, I will draw the line.

Legs
Aug 27, 2007, 11:51 AM
I''m just figuring out how to send sms messages. What's the use of this blackberry thing which you can't eat, when you already have mobile phones?

kmac
Aug 27, 2007, 12:38 PM
The lines between Personal Digital Assistants - PDA - and mobile telephony have been merging since the late 90's. The Blackberry is larger than most mobiles so it has a larger keyboard for typing and SMS. They perform e-mail functions, enable internet browsing and faxing, PDA functionality, support many popular enterprise software programs, and lastly acts as a mobile phone. All in one business/personal electronic device.

Legs
Aug 28, 2007, 05:18 AM
The lines between Personal Digital Assistants - PDA - and mobile telephony have been merging since the late 90's. The Blackberry is larger than most mobiles so it has a larger keyboard for typing and SMS.

So it's an old mobile phone?

kmac
Aug 28, 2007, 06:03 AM
So it's an old mobile phone?

Yeah, a lot like this:

http://z.about.com/d/inventors/1/8/2/5/martin_cooper_2.jpg

FPSHOT
Aug 28, 2007, 06:26 AM
and I thought I was behind in technique

ok anyroad formate, sowwy

http://www.medicalinformaticsinsider.com/media/2006/01/blackberry.jpg

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2006/08/blackberry8100.jpg

http://www.frankwatching.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/blackberry8800.jpg








Legs, still sure you can eat it?

Legs
Aug 28, 2007, 06:48 AM
Yes

http://ingenius.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/blackberry-fruit-inverell-lrt-web.jpg

FPSHOT
Aug 28, 2007, 08:13 AM
They are (pictured) from March 2005... so I'd rather not

But I prefer those ... Black Berry's.. Red Berry's and they don't drive me nuts and I do buy them and..... that is not what I meant...

Legs
Aug 28, 2007, 08:57 AM
They are (pictured) from March 2005... so I'd rather not


I'll throw them away then.

Anyway, it looks like a nice new gadget but I don't see the point. As others have expressed the world won't disapear if someone isn't available for a few seconds. I have my mobile, and email so I think that's enough for now.
They don't have blackberry's at my office, but I notice an increased trend of customers wanting to have someone available to answer their questions 24 hours a day, and when someone doesn't get an answer within a few minutes you'll get an angry customer on the phone.