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alliesun
Aug 11, 2001, 01:38 PM
Hello Beatle Buddies -
I was talking to a friend in NY about the Beatles, and he remembered seeing a film about their group and Stuart Sutcliffe (I might have really messed up the spelling of his last name - forgive me if this is the case http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/blush2.gif ). I think he said it was called 'Back Beat' - but I'm not sure. Does anyone have any input on this film? Do I even have the title right? Is it worth seeing? I'd love to have your opinions... I value the Beatle-thoughts I encounter here.
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jtal909
Aug 11, 2001, 02:19 PM
backbeat is an excellent movie about the real early days propfessionally done. great soundtrack, and story. it's about the Beatles without the cliches as it is a legitimate film. highly recommended.
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Hi Allie, you got the spelling right so no worries there. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif As for the film, Backbeat is a real good one, one of the best about the Beatles in my opinion - and you will enjoy it thoroughly without doubt. It focuses more on the friendship between John and Stu and is set in the Hamburg days, around 1960. And there's a striking resemblance between John and Ian Hart (who plays him), as well as that of Gary Bakewell, who plays Paul. There are a few inconsistencies with some of the facts as you'll find in any movie about the Beatles, but when it works, the film gives viewers a unique dose of history and nostalgia to keep them interested. The music is a nostalgic revelation in itself! Go get it out and watch it the first chance you get, and enjoy! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif
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[This Message Has Been Edited By Nowhere Man On August 11, 2001 03:26 PM]
old_moon_shining
Aug 11, 2001, 03:43 PM
I have watched the movie but I have also read the book. Naturally the book has a lot more detail and I especially enjoyed the way it set the scene in Liverpool.
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jtal909
Aug 11, 2001, 07:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By Nowhere Man:
There are a few inconsistencies with some of the facts as you'll find in any movie about the Beatles, but when it works, the film gives viewers a unique dose of history and nostalgia to keep them interested.
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artistic license, if you will
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Lucy
Aug 12, 2001, 04:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By Nowhere Man:
And there's a striking resemblance between John and Ian Hart...
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You reckon NWM??? He really sort of aggitated me as John - both in the way he looked and the way he played him.
I remember my brother said to me after seeing it that if he didn't know who or what John was before he had seen the movie, he would have come out thinking he was a total loser.
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old_moon_shining
Aug 12, 2001, 05:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By Lucy:
He really sort of aggitated me as John
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Me also.
I really wasn't all that taken by the movie although I have heard others say they liked it.
I also got the impression from the book that if it wasn't for Stu there would have been no Beatles. I know that every factor had its place but...??
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By Lucy:
You reckon NWM??? He really sort of aggitated me as John - both in the way he looked and the way he played him.
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I thought the Paul resemblance was a lot closer obviously, but still even with John I think they did a reasonably good job (compared to anything else that's out there). Have you maybe seen anything better? I'd be interested to see it if there is.
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Lucy
Aug 13, 2001, 03:23 PM
Well I'd say that he was of about the same quality as other "Johns" that I have seen... and I don't expect to see any better either. Every single "John" is so dud in my eyes that I reckon I could do a better job.
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I've heard all about that sexy manly voice of yours (the one you're gonna show me one day), so I have no doubts you'd make a better John.
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Lucy
Aug 13, 2001, 09:17 PM
Boris - I don't know whether to laugh or cry!
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HeyBeatle
Aug 14, 2001, 06:18 AM
I've seen the soundtrack but I've never been able to find the video. Do you think it would be under musicals or drama or what?
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HMcAbbey
Aug 14, 2001, 01:16 PM
heybeatle:
the place i found it was under: 'cult classics'...
nowhere man:
thank you for the input regarding the film. i actually enjoyed it - and thought that the portrayl (spellingn again?) of john and stuart was pretty good. again, i don't have much to compare it with... i've never seen any other movies (made for tv, etc.) depicting our fab four. any suggestions? (that question is for anyone...)
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alliesun
Aug 14, 2001, 01:17 PM
oops http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/blush2.gif ... i accidently posted under my friend's name... we just set her up yesterday. yikes.
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HeyBeatle
Aug 14, 2001, 02:36 PM
Thanks I'll have to go in search of it now.
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bearkat77
Aug 14, 2001, 08:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By alliesun:
oops http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/blush2.gif ... i accidently posted under my friend's name... we just set her up yesterday. yikes.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No problem, alliesun. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/sleep2.gif and I have done the same thing a few times.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By HMcAbbey:
i've never seen any other movies (made for tv, etc.) depicting our fab four. any suggestions?
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Hi allie, you might like to check out some of the following titles, all about the Fab Four - some were movies, some TV-movies, others made for video and even some that were TV series...
Movies
*The Beatles And Beyond (1977) dir. Chris Ward
*I Wanna Hold Your Hand (1978) dir. Robert Zemeckis
*Birth Of The Beatles (1979) dir. Richard Marquand
*The Complete Beatles (1982) dir. Patrick Montgomery
*The Hours and Times (1991) (with Ian Hart - who played John in Backbeat) dir. Christopher Münch
*Lennon (2000)
TV-Movies
*Around the Beatles (1963) with the Beatles themselves
*What's Happening! The Beatles in the U.S.A. (1964) dir. Albert & David Maysles - also with the Beatles themselves
*The Beatles Revolution (2000) dir. Rudy Bednar
*The Linda McCartney Story (2000) (with Gary Bakewell - who played Paul in Backbeat) dir. Armand Mastroianni
*In His Life: The John Lennon Story (2000) dir. David Carson
*Two of Us (2000) dir. Michael Lindsay-Hogg
Made For Video
*Ready Steady Go! The Beatles Live (1985) Beatles themselves
*The Beatles: The First U.S. Visit (1994) Beatles themselves
*Alf Bicknell's Beatles Diary (1996)
*Beatles Diary (1996)
TV Series
*The Beatles (1965) dir. George Dunning
*The Beatles Anthology (1995) Beatles themselves
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alliesun
Aug 15, 2001, 01:59 AM
nowhere man -
thank you so much for your "list o' titles"... i will definately be checking out each of them.
question for anyone: how would i get a hold of the made-for-tv films? i.e.: on a different thread i was asking about the 'linda mccartney story', and am not sure about how to get or find a copy. if anyone knows, i would greatly appreciate it...
thanks again, beatlefriends! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif
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A good place to look for these titles is at www.ebay.com (http://www.ebay.com) ... they usually have quite a nice selection of different things there, including those that are harder to find elsehwere - and more often than not at a cheaper price too.
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alliesun
Aug 15, 2001, 03:23 AM
again, thanks for the advice
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HMVNipper
Aug 16, 2001, 04:53 PM
Any of you guys aware that Ian Hart actually played John Lennon twice? Before he played him in "Backbeat" he was in a little independent film called "The Hours And Times," which was a speculative look at what might have happened on that trip that John took with Brian to Barcelona in 1963...I've got that on tape someplace too, as well as
"Backbeat."
For what it's worth, I thought "Backbeat" was pretty good -- Astrid Kirscherr was a creative consultant on the film.
Oh -- and if anyone's wondering, Ian Hart is in the Harry Potter movie that's coming out in November! I was starting to wonder what happened to him!
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By HMVNipper:
Any of you guys aware that Ian Hart actually played John Lennon twice? Before he played him in "Backbeat" he was in a little independent film called "The Hours And Times," which was a speculative look at what might have happened on that trip that John took with Brian to Barcelona in 1963
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Yeah, I think I mentioned that in the above post where I listed all the films... that and Gary Bakewell (who played Paul in 'Backbeat') also played the Paul in 'The Linda McCartney Story'. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif
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alliesun
Aug 17, 2001, 12:14 AM
nowhere man - i asked this in another thread, but since you talked about the 'linda mccartney story' - i'll ask you here as well...
what did you think of the music in the film? 'the fab four' (a southern california tribute band - and the best i've seen so far) was invited to capitol records to lay down the tracks for the movie. so... what did you think of the music?
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