Tom cruise a Beatle fan

[liverpool-lad]

read this today o'boy

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,4-2006190672,00.html

[beatles fan]

Thats intresting, i never knew he was a fan, but then i'm not a fan of his really! I know that Dominic Monaghan is a huge beatles fan, and has the tattoo saying living is easy with eyes closed on his arm! (i found that out from Lost).

[taxman]

He can be seen on the Paul McCartney's Back In The US DVD.

[HMVNipper]

Still doesn't make me like him...or not think that he's an a$$hole...

Just because someone's also a Beatles fan does not necessarily make him a better person.

[Magill]

Still doesn't make me like him...or not think that he's an a$$hole...

Just because someone's also a Beatles fan does not necessarily make him a better person.

Charles Manson is also a Beatles fan. Cruise isn't as detestable as Manson but, close....
:laugh5:

[HoneyPie]

That's interesting!
I never thought Tom Cruise would be a Beatle fan!
He seems like the type of person who is more interested in Pop, R&B, Rap or Reggae. But then i'm not a big fan of Tom Cruise so i don't really care. He's just another pretty boy & bad actor to me!

[HMVNipper]

Charles Manson is also a Beatles fan. Cruise isn't as detestable as Manson but, close....
:laugh5:

Exactly! :cross2:

[rubbersoulster_mel]

Right about now I'm just trying not to focus on the fact that I have something in common with Tom Cruise... who seems a few french fries short of a happy meal these days. :cross2:

[motherTheresa]

Tom Cruise... who seems a few french fries short of a happy meal these days. :cross2:


:laugh2:

mind if i borrow that line?

i heard a disc jockey say he'd like to punch tom cruise in the

forehead the other morning.....:afraid2:

i guess old tom is alienating a few folks these days........!

[.Psychedelic.Stars.]

I don't like Tom at all. He scares me.

[beatlebangs1964]

French fries short of a happy meal. Frankly, I think the dude is 5 cans short of a 6-pack and that 6th can is less than a quarter full...

Still doesn't make me like him...or not think that he's an a$$hole...

Just because someone's also a Beatles fan does not necessarily make him a better person.

My exact sentiments. Add to it I am sick of him, Katie, Angie baby, Brad and Jennifer.

Tommy boy may like the Beatles, but that does not elevate him in my eyes.

[Rellevart]

Oh, ok, so thanks, it's always nice to know who I'm supposed to hate next. :wink1:

[lennonluvr9]

actually i get kinda annoyed when celebs or people i dont like end up being beatles fans cuz then i get all "ew, they like something I like?!"

[BeatlesFan4life]

I really didn't know that Tom cruise was a fan of the beatles.

[Georgie Girl]

Beatles music--it's got a great beat and you can couch-jump to it! :teeth1:

[AmericanBeatle]

And, Beatles music does not require drugs to listen to!

[VersusBatman]

Beatles music--it's got a great beat and you can couch-jump to it! :teeth1:
:laugh3:

[Dr. Dreamer]

Imagine that even someone as emotionally stunted as Tom Cruise! Hey this proves the Beatles appeal to anyone! :laugh2:

[HMVNipper]

Imagine that even someone as emotionally stunted as Tom Cruise! Hey this proves the Beatles appeal to anyone! :laugh2:

Not so sure that's a good thing...what does it say about us??? :cross2:

[VersusBatman]

It's kind of interesting he's a fan because in Rain Man, he and Dustin Hoffman sing "I saw her standing there".

[sadie]

I cannot comment about Tom Cruise but I do not know him personally so i am loathe to judge, however surely he isn't as bad as everyone makes out, he may be annoying and his life may seem pretty odd but that doesn't mean he is a nasty person or isn't entitled to like the Beatles, this is all abit of an over reaction isn't it?

[HMVNipper]

Well, I don't "know Tom Cruise personally" either, but based on his public face I believe I am entitled to have an opinion that, at least in public, he's an a$$hole. If a celebrity presents himself in a certain way publicly, it stands to reason that this is the face he wants to show to the world, and as such, it's something his fans (or detractors) are entitled to form an opinion about. If he doesn't want or expect people to form opinions about him based on the way he behaves in front of the cameras, then he's in the wrong business!

Any man who says that postpartum depression is "all in a woman's head and isn't real" (to paraphrase what he said about Brooke Shields a couple of years back) and says that asking for help for this condition makes a woman "weak," is an insensitive ass as far as I'm concerned. (I had postpartum depression, so I speak from experience.) And I was glad when Brooke ripped him a new one, frankly -- when he experiences postpartum depression and has actually faced all those suicidal thoughts, then he might be qualified to talk. But until such time as he personally gives birth and deals with all the hormone issues, he ought to just keep his mouth shut, IMO. And he said these things publicly, so he clearly wanted people to know exactly how he felt about it, and expected responses, or he never would have said it for the record.

However, that said, all of this does not mean that he isn't entitled to like the Beatles if he wants. That's fine with me -- but just because he's also a Beatles fan doesn't mean I have to suddenly change my opinion about the rest of his public persona. And I think that public persona is annoying, insufferable and obnoxious, thanks. I know a lot of people who call themselves Beatles fans who are annoying, insufferable and obnoxious in other ways, and just because they also like the Beatles doesn't mean I'll ever see eye to eye with them otherwise!

I think that saying "I don't know such and such celebrity personally so I can't form an opinion about him" is just so much of a cop out -- because what is the point of Beatlelinks, after all, except to express opinions and have discussions about four celebrities (and their wives, families, associates, etc.) that 99.9% of us here don't "know personally." (And no, Sadie, I'm jumping on you, so please don't think so -- I'm just commenting on the stuff about "not knowing this person personally," which many, many people say around here very often. I just used your post as a starting point for this one.)

Okay...end of rant... :wink1:

[VersusBatman]

I agree with you Nipper on everything. I believe actions speak louder than words. If celebrity says, "I'm the nicest person in private.", but acts like a jerk in public, I'm inclined to not believe this person is nice.

[Georgie Girl]

I find it ironic that he and Brooke had their babies the same day--someone said in the same hospital?!

[VersusBatman]

That is weird.

[sadie]

Well, I don't "know Tom Cruise personally" either, but based on his public face I believe I am entitled to have an opinion that, at least in public, he's an a$$hole. If a celebrity presents himself in a certain way publicly, it stands to reason that this is the face he wants to show to the world, and as such, it's something his fans (or detractors) are entitled to form an opinion about. If he doesn't want or expect people to form opinions about him based on the way he behaves in front of the cameras, then he's in the wrong business!

Any man who says that postpartum depression is "all in a woman's head and isn't real" (to paraphrase what he said about Brooke Shields a couple of years back) and says that asking for help for this condition makes a woman "weak," is an insensitive ass as far as I'm concerned. (I had postpartum depression, so I speak from experience.) And I was glad when Brooke ripped him a new one, frankly -- when he experiences postpartum depression and has actually faced all those suicidal thoughts, then he might be qualified to talk. But until such time as he personally gives birth and deals with all the hormone issues, he ought to just keep his mouth shut, IMO. And he said these things publicly, so he clearly wanted people to know exactly how he felt about it, and expected responses, or he never would have said it for the record.

However, that said, all of this does not mean that he isn't entitled to like the Beatles if he wants. That's fine with me -- but just because he's also a Beatles fan doesn't mean I have to suddenly change my opinion about the rest of his public persona. And I think that public persona is annoying, insufferable and obnoxious, thanks. I know a lot of people who call themselves Beatles fans who are annoying, insufferable and obnoxious in other ways, and just because they also like the Beatles doesn't mean I'll ever see eye to eye with them otherwise!

I think that saying "I don't know such and such celebrity personally so I can't form an opinion about him" is just so much of a cop out -- because what is the point of Beatlelinks, after all, except to express opinions and have discussions about four celebrities (and their wives, families, associates, etc.) that 99.9% of us here don't "know personally." (And no, Sadie, I'm jumping on you, so please don't think so -- I'm just commenting on the stuff about "not knowing this person personally," which many, many people say around here very often. I just used your post as a starting point for this one.)

Okay...end of rant... :wink1:

I understand every word you said but still don't agree but hey not everyone can agree :teeth1: I just don't think people should be judged.

[VersusBatman]

IMO I have a feeling if I got to know Tom, he'd still tell me I just imagined Post Partum Depression. I mean, if he had the cojones to claim he knows everything about psychiatry and WE don't, I wouldn't put it past him.

[HMVNipper]

I find it ironic that he and Brooke had their babies the same day--someone said in the same hospital?!

Yes indeedy, right down the hall from each other. And from what I understand, Brooke was gracious and sent them a baby gift. Which is more than I can say he and Katie-poo were to her.

Good on ya, Brooke, you proved that you are a lovely person.

[HMVNipper]

IMO I have a feeling if I got to know Tom, he'd still tell me I just imagined Post Partum Depression. I mean, if he had the cojones to claim he knows everything about psychiatry and WE don't, I wouldn't put it past him.

Exactly. And he doesn't know "everything" about psychiatry -- he knows about it from the point of view of a Scientologist. And Scientology frowns upon it, so naturally he'd be anti-psychiatry. But he shouldn't tell other people how to live their lives -- if Scientology works for him, great, but I don't believe in it and I do believe in psychiatry. Live and let live.

Let me reiterate -- if anyone is "judging" Tom Cruise, it's because he has put a certain public face out there that he wants people to judge him by, or he wouldn't have bothered. Didn't the Beatles put themselves out there like that too? John, for instance, made public political statements and was definitely judged by them. But you can't say he didn't want people to judge him for those remarks, or that he didn't expect it. So I still think that saying "I don't know Tom Cruise personally and can't say" is tantamount to any one of us here saying "I didn't know John Lennon personally and can't say," which of course is ridiculous, because I would venture to say that every single Beatlelinker has an "opinion" about the Beatles or their associates, and has expressed it.

I do find it interesting that many people use this excuse about certain celebs, but I can't really recall any time here on the Links where anyone who disliked Yoko said, "I don't know Yoko personally, so I can't judge her." She's judged all the time around here. Double standard, maybe?

[VersusBatman]

Exactly. And he doesn't know "everything" about psychiatry -- he knows about it from the point of view of a Scientologist. And Scientology frowns upon it, so naturally he'd be anti-psychiatry. But he shouldn't tell other people how to live their lives -- if Scientology works for him, great, but I don't believe in it and I do believe in psychiatry. Live and let live.

That's right. I believe in my religious teachings with all my heart, but nothing will alienate me more than if I stood up and said, "I don't believe in drinking, smoking, or coffee and neither should you because I know more about this than you!". There's a difference between sharing what you believe in and imposing yourself on people. I don't recall Brook Sheilds asking Tom to tell her depression was bunk.

[Dr. Dreamer]

Not so sure that's a good thing...what does it say about us??? :cross2:

Well- if we were Tom Cruise fans too I'd question that But we Beatle fans know better with an uhm -actor (I use the term loosley) like him...:laugh5: An opinon to which I am entitled right or wrong...:smile1:

[Blackguard]

Imagine that even someone as emotionally stunted as Tom Cruise! Hey this proves the Beatles appeal to anyone! :laugh2:

Not so sure that's a good thing...what does it say about us??? :cross2:


I don't know what it says about us, however, it proves that there is some normalicy to Tom Cruise.

Or should I be standing on my couch screaming? :thinker:

[ChrisG134]

Am I the only person who thinks Tom is gay?Seriously, not that there's anything wrong with that but for years I've always thought that.

[beatlebangs1964]

I would have to come in with Susan and Bat on this one. I, too think Tom Cruise is a grade-A jerk and make no bones about it. His vitriolic attack on psychiatry certainly did not elevate him in my eyes. Had Katie suffered from post partum depression, I wonder what he would have said or suggested that they do about it.

True, I don't know the man personally, but his public persona has certainly not been endearing to me. I think he is a donkey's a$$ and make no bones about it. He has acted a fool in the public eye and some of the comments he made impressed me as being over the top, sorry. If he does not want a public life and a public persona, then he might take up a more discreet business such as working in the background or going into sales or some such. Whether or not you know someone personally does not preclude you from forming opinions about their behavior. For example, none of us knew Pope John XXIII personally, but that doesn't stop us from having the deepest respect and even love for this good man.

Any man who says that postpartum depression is "all in a woman's head and isn't real" (to paraphrase what he said about Brooke Shields a couple of years back) and says that asking for help for this condition makes a woman "weak," is an insensitive ass as far as I'm concerned. (I had postpartum depression, so I speak from experience.) And I was glad when Brooke ripped him a new one, frankly -- when he experiences postpartum depression and has actually faced all those suicidal thoughts, then he might be qualified to talk. But until such time as he personally gives birth and deals with all the hormone issues, he ought to just keep his mouth shut, IMO. And he said these things publicly, so he clearly wanted people to know exactly how he felt about it, and expected responses, or he never would have said it for the record.

I could not have said it better. Add to it that whether or not he likes the Beatles is immaterial; that has nothing to do with his public or private persona. The comments he made in public certainly lowered him in my eyes and I just cannot respect him. I find him more than insufferable and boring - I think he is a callous, crass, boorish oaf.

Tommy boy does not sound like someone I would want to know, sorry. He would probably rub me the wrong way just as his public persona and public statements have. They clearly reflect his thoughts and what he said certainly reflects badly on him.

Scientology frowns on psychiatry, so one wonders just what he even knows about psychiatry in the first place. He knows his religion disapproves of it, but what does he actually know about it? I'm all for living and letting live - I am not a Scientologist; don't subscribe to that religion, but if it works for others, well and good.

Bat, you have said quite well the difference between following your own core values and beliefs and prosletyzing. You said, "I believe..." which is vastly different from telling others what to think, do and believe. What you said is fair, accepting and reasonable. Tom Cruise's approach IMHO is not because it does not speak to tolerance or acceptance of others.

[Lynner]

At least he has good taste in music.

[sadie]

Y'see I agree he is public persona is not good and he comes over and very strange, all I was saying was that i thought it was silly people getting annoyed that he like the Beatles, i think its a good thing, and even though he is strange he is not a baby killer and also to compare him to Charles Manson is abit odd.

[Serena]

yeah i kind of got the idea he was a fan after spotting him at a paul mccartney concert.

[twovirgins]

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[HMVNipper]

Y'see I agree he is public persona is not good and he comes over and very strange, all I was saying was that i thought it was silly people getting annoyed that he like the Beatles, i think its a good thing, and even though he is strange he is not a baby killer and also to compare him to Charles Manson is abit odd.

Well, yes, he's entitled to be a Beatles fan. I don't understand why anyone would get annoyed that he is. So, he likes them and we like them. Big deal. It won't change my opinion of him, but I don't care what music he listens to in his spare time. It's a free country.

But who compared him to Charles Manson? What I read earlier in this thread was someone who essentially said "well, yes, but Charles Manson was a Beatles fan too and that didn't make him a nice person." That's not comparing Tom Cruise to Charles Manson, it's agreeing that simply liking the Beatles does not automatically redeem someone and make him wonderful.

At any rate, getting all worked up over whether Tom Cruise likes the Beatles seems rather pointless to me. And I still don't like him.

[Dr. Dreamer]

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:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: I concur 2V

[Georgie Girl]

But who compared him to Charles Manson? What I read earlier in this thread was someone who essentially said "well, yes, but Charles Manson was a Beatles fan too and that didn't make him a nice person." That's not comparing Tom Cruise to Charles Manson, it's agreeing that simply liking the Beatles does not automatically redeem someone and make him wonderful.
Well, the word "too" indicates that the poster drew similarities between them, as if to say, "Tom, as well as Charles" or "Tom, like Charles." Like Tom is as depraved as Charles. Which, after the couch-jumping, hmm.
(I read a recent interview of Tom and he does seem to have deep issues.)

But you know me, I would never nitpick! :teeth1:

[Magill]

Well, the word "too" indicates that the poster drew similarities between them, as if to say, "Tom, as well as Charles" or "Tom, like Charles." Like Tom is as depraved as Charles. Which, after the couch-jumping, hmm.
(I read a recent interview of Tom and he does seem to have deep issues.)

But you know me, I would never nitpick! :teeth1:

See how misconstrued things can get? It was *my* post and *it* was intended just as Susan said. No, Tom Cruise is not a homicidal maniac. He's a clean old man. But, then again, is he? :wink2:

[Georgie Girl]

See how misconstrued things can get? It was *my* post and *it* was intended just as Susan said. No, Tom Cruise is not a homicidal maniac. He's a clean old man. But, then again, is he? :wink2:
I heard a rumor that he was seeing a young girl, sssh! :sssh:

[Magill]

I heard a rumor that he was seeing a young girl, sssh! :sssh:
Been reading those dreaded tabloids again, GG?

[Georgie Girl]

Been reading those dreaded tabloids again, GG?
Yes! You know they can't print it if it's not true. :nono4:
This girl used to play on Dawson's Creek.

[beatlebangs1964]

I concur as well, 2V. Susan, once again you said what I was thinking far better than I could have.

While I don't like Tom Cruise and think he is an a$$hole, it matters not to me one way or the other if he likes the Beatles. I just think he is a boring, annoying, effete jerk.

[sadie]

Well, yes, he's entitled to be a Beatles fan. I don't understand why anyone would get annoyed that he is. So, he likes them and we like them. Big deal. It won't change my opinion of him, but I don't care what music he listens to in his spare time. It's a free country.

But who compared him to Charles Manson? What I read earlier in this thread was someone who essentially said "well, yes, but Charles Manson was a Beatles fan too and that didn't make him a nice person." That's not comparing Tom Cruise to Charles Manson, it's agreeing that simply liking the Beatles does not automatically redeem someone and make him wonderful.

At any rate, getting all worked up over whether Tom Cruise likes the Beatles seems rather pointless to me. And I still don't like him.

That was exactly what i was trying to say all along but I am not too great at putting down what I am thinking, but basically i just couldn't understand why people were getting annoyed.

[Rellevart]

basically i just couldn't understand why people were getting annoyed.

Yeah, I've never really understood that whole violent hatred of celebrities thing either. Basically, if I don't like a celebrity, then they're pretty much irrelevant to me...wasting time and energy actively hating a celebrity seems like such a futile pursuit, but so many people do it that it must have some appeal that I'm missing.

And as far as Tom Cruise, he's done some off-the-wall stuff and holds some weird opinions, but I don't get the whole "OMG, HE likes something *I* like, EWWWWWWWW" thing. Whatever, so he has good taste in music. Whoopie.

[sadie]

My sentiments exactly :teeth1:

[beatlebangs1964]

And mine as well. I never understood the shock behind "the jerk likes something I enjoy as well." I don't violently hate or otherwise detest the guy; I just think he is a tiresome jerk, that's all. Ain't nothing shocking or upsetting in that he has good taste in music. Big fancy deal.

[McCartneygirl77]

It seems I'm the only one here who likes Tom Cruise...

[VersusBatman]

Am I the only person who thinks Tom is gay?Seriously, not that there's anything wrong with that but for years I've always thought that.
He does protest quite loudly whenever the rumors pop up.

[sourmilkpinky]

It seems I'm the only one here who likes Tom Cruise...

no you arent. I like Tom Cruise always have. However I dont follow his social/private life.

[BadLittleKid]

As a non American I'm not aware of everything about Tom but in the Internet Movie database Tom's message board has for a long time been in chaos. People write silly things about him.

[jtal909]

How can you not like the Beatles?

[beatlebangs1964]

Good question, jtal909

[matt5]

How can you not like the Beatles?


I know some people who don't like them :afraid3:

[Harry]

Me too, lots of people. I think Tom Cruise us harmless enough, its not like he goes out hurting people or anything.