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I am the Paulrus
Sep 29, 2005, 04:47 PM
Beatles-Platz planned for Hamburg
Wednesday, 28 September 2005
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The memorial will feature statues of the band atop a black record
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It will be located in the area where the Beatles played in the 1960s
Fundraising is under way for a sculpture in Hamburg marking the time the Beatles spent in the city in the early 1960s.
German radio station Oldie95 hopes to raise 100,000 euros (£68,000) for the project, located on the Reeperbahn in the city's St Pauli district.
The memorial will depict the four band members, plus 'fifth Beatle' Stuart Sutcliffe, atop a giant black record.
It is hoped the tribute will be ready by May 2006.
The opening would coincide with the World Cup Finals held in Germany next year.
It is also hoped Sir Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr or John Lennon's widow Yoko Ono will attend the unveiling, said an Oldie 95 spokeswoman.
The statues will be cast in bullet-proof glass that will be illuminated after dark.
'Musical birthplace'
Beatles lyrics will be etched into the grooves of the record, which will be located on the corner of the Reeperbahn and Grosse Freiheit.
The Fab Four performed in the area many times during their sojourn in the city, most notably at the infamous Kaiserkeller nightclub.
"Hamburg was the musical birthplace of the Beatles, but we don't have anything here to mark this," said Oldie95's Martina Mueller.
"Everyone thinks it is good for Hamburg, good for tourism and good for local people as well."
5,000 certificates worth 10 euros each have been printed to persuade fans to invest in the project.
Organisers are also seeking larger investors with an eye to starting construction in March.
Approximately 20,000 euros has been raised so far.
The memorial will be built by Hamburg architects Dohse & Stich, which beat two other local firms to secure the commission.
matt2791
Sep 29, 2005, 07:27 PM
Awesome news:)
I am the Paulrus
Dec 13, 2005, 11:49 AM
Beatles tribute is a tribute real touch of glass
Dec 13 2005
By Julian Bohne, Daily Post
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Artist's impression of how the Hamburg statue will look with the Fab Four on the right and Stuart Sutcliffe watching from the left.
IN THE beat city, where The Beatles honed the talent which would make them world famous, they are building a square to celebrate their part in the formation of the Fab Five.
Yes, the city of Hamburg is not only recognising John, Paul, George and Ringo at Beatlesplatz, a public square located in the middle of the Reeperbahn, home to the clubs where they wowed the German Beatnik audience. The city is also recognising Stuart Sutcliffe's part in their early days.
In the early 60s, during that heady period of social change many young Liverpool groups such as Gerry and the Pacemakers, Rory Storm and the fledgling Beatles gravitated to the port city of Hamburg where there was already a lively music scene.
Now, four and a half decades later, the city of Hamburg has decided to honour The Beatles with the public square. It will be integrated into the street's design, which will be modernised in preparation for the World Cup in Germany next year. The venues and places where The Beatles once performed and lived are all within walking distance of Beatlesplatz.
The group first came to Hamburg in the summer of 1960, a time when they had just changed their name to The Beatles and started to take a serious approach to their music.
Stuart Sutcliffe had joined the band as a bass player; and Pete Best had taken the stool behind the drums. Before that, John, Paul and George, who all played the guitar, had been supported by a changing cast of musicians.
A club owner from Hamburg with whom Alan Williams - at the time The Beatles' manager - had contacts was looking to hire a beat band from Liverpool to play in one of his clubs. He had engaged Derry Wilkie and the Seniors before and wanted to try it with another band. Gerry and the Pacemakers, also among the bands managed by Williams, declined, so The Beatles ended up taking the gig.
The job was anything but glamorous. The group had to perform up to six hours a night, in the first weeks at the rather scruffy Indra bar, later at the slightly classier Kaiserkeller. The audiences were often drunk and unpredictable, and fights broke out regularly. The band was accommodated in a small room behind the screen of the Bambi Cinema, where they were exposed to the soundtracks of the films on show.
But despite the bad working conditions, it was Hamburg where The Beatles gathered valuable experiences in the art of performing live. George Harrison later said that the band developed its unique style during those endless hours on the stages of Hamburg.
The Beatles' first commercial recording was also made in Hamburg. It was a beat version of the popular tune My Bonnie sung by Tony Sheridan. The Beatles acted as his backing band during the sessions. It would later draw The Beatles to the attention of Brian Epstein, who subsequently became their manager and led them to fame.
"Hamburg is regarded as one of the birthplaces of the most famous band in the world," says Stephan Heller, who came up with the idea for The Beatlesplatz in 2001. "But there is nothing to remind the people in this city of John, Paul, George and Ringo. Liverpool has named streets, squares and even its airport after The Beatles. In Hamburg there is nothing. It is time we got some form of monument."
As program director of Oldie95, a local radio station dedicated to 60s and 70s music, Stephan started promoting the project and founded Beat City, an organisation to make the idea a reality. He also secured the support of the local authorities. After almost four years of planning and discussing, the building authority finally gave its go-ahead for the square in February.
"It was a long process but now I am proud and pleased that we can finally start building," Mr Heller says.
Construction of the square will start in March. It will look like a huge record, with illuminated glass statues of the Fab Four in the middle. But there is a place also for Stuart Sutcliffe - a statue of him will be watching the main group from a slight distance.
Lyrics from early Beatles songs made from stainless steel strips will be laid into the concrete to resemble the groves of the record. Beatles songs will be playing from small loudspeakers built into the statues.
The cost of the square is estimated to be 100,000 Euro (approximately £70,000). The money has mainly been raised through donations. Large donations have already come from companies and celebrities. Members of the public can buy certificates, which help finance the project.
"The certificates cost 10 Euros each," says Stephan Heller.. "They are very popular and have already become collectors items, which shows the support of the people of Hamburg."
A passer-by on the Reeperbahn agrees: "My parents used to see The Beatles play at the Kaiserkeller. Even today, everyone knows their music. The Beatles are a part of Hamburg and Hamburg is a part of The Beatles. I find the idea for a square great." The opening ceremony for the square is scheduled for next May.
"Of course we will invite the remaining members of the band," says Mr Heller.
"We don't know yet if any of them will attend, but Paul McCartney has already expressed his support and gratitude for the project."
And it does not end with The Beatlesplatz. To further commemorate The Beatles' Hamburg period, Beat City is planning more projects.
They include a museum and the staging of a musical about The Beatles called All You Need is Love. After all, the time of the beat music is very important in the city's musical history. And no one shaped this period more distinctly than the four, or five, lads from Liverpool.
pbfan
Jan 11, 2006, 04:12 AM
The Hamburg planners have a great idea..great concept, but the tribute appears to be doing a disservice to Beatles fans, historians, and Hamburg tourists for today and for generations to come by trying to rewrite the Hamburg history. ...and the early history of the Beatles in that great city. Image of Stu Sutcliffe (RIP) included in the statue "because he was part of the Beatles in Hamburg" and a "close freind of John Lennon"....but..the image of the drummer for the majority of the Hamburg era is excluded...for what reason? The original drummer had more Hamburg performance time than both Stu and Ringo combined yet the planners are excluding the image of the guy that actually created the atomic backbeat for the group in the first place. The issue is not whether they liked the guy or didn't like the guy..or that the drummer was dismised....but, the rewriting of the history ..and the deliberate misrepresentation is inappropriate. Add your comments and support if you like, but any person with even the slightest knowledge of the actual history knows that the planned statue is off kilter... www.beatleshamburgstatue.com
.Psychedelic.Stars.
Jan 11, 2006, 02:06 PM
The Hamburg planners have a great idea..great concept, but the tribute appears to be doing a disservice to Beatles fans, historians, and Hamburg tourists for today and for generations to come by trying to rewrite the Hamburg history. ...and the early history of the Beatles in that great city. Image of Stu Sutcliffe (RIP) included in the statue "because he was part of the Beatles in Hamburg" and a "close freind of John Lennon"....but..the image of the drummer for the majority of the Hamburg era is excluded...for what reason? The original drummer had more Hamburg performance time than both Stu and Ringo combined yet the planners are excluding the image of the guy that actually created the atomic backbeat for the group in the first place. The issue is not whether they liked the guy or didn't like the guy..or that the drummer was dismised....but, the rewriting of the history ..and the deliberate misrepresentation is inappropriate. Add your comments and support if you like, but any person with even the slightest knowledge of the actual history knows that the planned statue is off kilter... www.beatleshamburgstatue.com
I kinda agree with this... If they add Stu then they have to add Pete or else it won't be historically correct. If they don't add Stu then they can say the 4 Beatles started fame here, it would make sense. But also Ringo was in Hamburg too, just with a different band. So I dunno, maybe they can argue that.
As for the statue, it's a great idea, but shouldn't they be standing in the middle of the record instead of right beside the road? I dunno, seems kinda dumb that they would put it that way, maybe I'm just seeing things and they are standing in the middle... :cross2: I don't really understand how this will be setup.
I am the Paulrus
Jan 23, 2006, 02:40 AM
We applaud Hamburg's commemoration of its undeniable part in the Beatles' formative years, but we feel that any sculpture of the band would be incomplete without the inclusion of the original Beatles' drummer Pete Best. Mr. Best was their drummer beginning with the very first show they played at the Indra club. It was more than two years later that Ringo Starr joined and he only played with them in Hamburg during the very last series of shows at the Star Club.
Pete Best's vital involvement in the Beatles' early years is often obscured by the enormous fame the band achieved after he had left. But he was most certainly the drummer of record during the overwhelming majority of time the band spent in Hamburg.
Hamburg has seen fit to include Stuart Sutcliffe in the sculpture, yet Mr. Sutcliffe left the band more than a year before Mr. Best. We strongly believe that any sculpture of the Beatles should include all of them, in order to best represent the complete story.
We have created a petition to be sent to Beat City, a group headed by Stephan Heller, who is a program director for a radio station in Hamburg. Mr. Heller started this organization to promote the idea of this Hamburg Beatles tribute. If you would like to support this attempt to right this wrong, we strongly encourage you to sign this petition and then forward it on to people who want to maintain the legacy of the Beatles Hamburg Days.
please sign the petition:
http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/Hamburg_Beatles_Statue/
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