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Wolf
Sep 02, 2001, 05:49 PM
The Beatles vs. the Rolling Stones 1960s chart comparison, Part One

Remark:

I took the date of the Beatles` first year & month of chart action in a certain country, then looked when the Beatles charted last in that country (during their active recording career). After that, I looked when the Stones first charted in that country, and added the Beatles` span of chart years to the Stones` debut year. With this method it is assured that both groups are treated fairly.

Example:

Beatles January 64 (debut) to May 70 (last hit) = 6 years, 4 months

Stones August 64 (debut) + 6 years, 4 months = December 1970 ("last" hit)

OVERVIEW FOR EACH COUNTRY

UNITED STATES

Singles

The Beatles

69 Chart Entries
33 Top Ten Hits
20 Number One Hits
59 weeks at Number One

The Rolling Stones

22 Chart Entries
12 Top Ten Hits
5 Number One Hits
13 weeks at Number One

Albums

The Beatles

26 Hot 200 Albums
23 Hot 100 Albums
20 Top Ten Albums
14 Number One Albums
120 weeks at Number One

The Rolling Stones

14 Hot 200 Albums
14 Hot 100 Albums
13 Top Ten Albums
1 Number One Album
3 weeks at Number One

UNITED KINGDOM

Singles

The Beatles

25 Hit Singles
22 Top Ten Hits
17 Number One Hits
69 weeks at Number One

The Rolling Stones

15 Hit Singles
13 Top Ten Singles
8 Number One Hits
18 weeks at Number One

Albums

The Beatles

14 Hit Albums
13 Top Ten Albums
11 Number One Albums
162 weeks at Number One

The Rolling Stones

13 Hit Albums
13 Top Ten Albums
6 Number One Albums
33 weeks at Number One

IN DETAIL:

UNITED STATES

Singles

The BEATLES

01/18/64 #1 I Want To Hold Your Hand
01/25/64 #1 She Loves You
02/01/64 #3 Please Please Me
02/08/64 #14 I Saw Her Standing There
02/15/64 #26 My Bonnie
03/07/64 #41 From Me To You
03/14/64 #2 Twist And Shout
03/21/64 #68 Roll Over Beethoven (Import)
03/28/64 #45 All My Loving (Import)
03/28/64 #1 Can`t Buy Me Love
03/28/64 #2 Do You Want To Know A Secret?
04/04/64 #48 You Can`t Do That
04/04/64 #35 Thank You Girl
04/11/64 #1 Love Me Do
04/11/64 #74 There`s A Place
04/18/64 #88 Why
05/09/64 #10 P.S. I Love You
06/13/64 #92 Four By The Beatles
06/27/64 #97 Sie Liebt Dich
07/18/64 #1 A Hard Day`s Night
07/18/64 #19 Ain`t She Sweet
07/25/64 #53 I Should Have Known Better
07/25/64 #12 And I Love Her
08/01/64 #53 If I Fell
08/01/64 #25 I`ll Cry Instead
08/01/64 #95 I`m Happy Just To Dance With You
09/05/64 #17 Matchbox
09/05/64 #25 Slow Down
12/05/64 #1 I Feel Fine
12/05/64 #4 She`s A Woman
02/20/65 #1 Eight Days A Week
02/20/65 #39 I Don`t Want To Spoil The Party
02/27/65 #68 4-By The Beatles
04/24/65 #1 Ticket To Ride
05/01/65 #46 Yes It Is
08/07/65 #1 Help!
09/25/65 #1 Yesterday
09/25/65 #47 Act Naturally
12/18/65 #1 We Can Work It Out
12/18/65 #5 Day Tripper
03/05/66 #3 Nowhere Man
03/12/66 #81 What Goes On
06/11/66 #1 Paperback Writer
06/11/66 #23 Rain
08/20/66 #2 Yellow Submarine
08/27/66 #11 Eleanor Rigby
02/25/67 #1 Penny Lane
02/25/67 #8 Strawberry Fields Forever
07/22/67 #1 All You Need Is Love
07/29/67 #34 Baby, You`re A Rich Man
12/02/67 #1 Hello, Goodbye
12/02/67 #58 I Am The Walrus
03/23/68 #4 Lady Madonna
03/30/68 #96 The Inner Light
09/14/68 #1 Hey Jude
09/14/68 #12 Revolution
05/10/69 #1 Get Back
05/10/69 #35 Don`t Let Me Down
06/14/69 #8 The Ballad Of John & Yoko
10/18/69 #1 Come Together/Something
03/21/70 #1 Let It Be
05/23/70 #1 The Long And Winding Road/For You Blue

69 Chart Enries
33 Top Ten Hits
20 Number One Hits
59 weeks at Number One

The ROLLING STONES

05/02/64 #48 Not Fade Away
07/04/64 #24 Tell Me
07/25/64 #26 It`s All Over Now
10/17/64 #6 Time Is On My Side
01/09/65 #19 Heart Of Stone
03/27/65 #9 The Last Time
06/12/65 #1 Satisfaction
10/09/65 #1 Get Off Of My Cloud
12/25/65 #6 As Tears Go By
02/26/66 #2 19th Nervous Breakdown
05/14/66 #1 Paint It Black
07/09/66 #8 Mothers Little Helper
07/23/66 #24 Lady Jane
10/08/66 #9 Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing In The Shadow?
01/21/67 #1 Ruby Tuesday
01/21/67 #55 Let`s Spend The Night Together
09/09/67 #14 Dandelion
09/16/67 #50 We Love You
12/30/67 #25 She`s A Rainbow
06/08/68 #3 Jumpin` Jack Flash
09/07/68 #48 Street Fighting Man
07/19/69 #1 Honky Tonk Women

22 Chart Entries
12 Top Ten Hits
5 Number One Hits
13 weeks at Number One

Albums

The BEATLES (February 1964 to May 1970 – 6 years, 3 months)

02/01/64 #1 Meet The Beatles!
02/08/64 #2 Introducing The Beatles
02/15/64 #68 The Beatles With Tony Sheridan And Their Guests
04/04/64 #104 Jolly What! The Beatles And Frank Ifield On Stage!
04/25/64 #1 The Beatles` Second Album
06/06/64 #20 The American Tour With Ed Rudy
07/18/64 #1 A Hard Day`s Night
08/08/64 #2 Something New
10/10/64 #142 The Beatles Vs. The Four Seasons
10/31/64 #63 Songs, Pictures And Stories Of The Fabulous Beatles
12/12/64 #7 The Beatles` Story
01/02/65 #1 Beatles `65
04/24/65 #43 The Early Beatles
06/26/65 #1 Beatles` VI
08/28/65 #1 Help!
12/25/65 #1 Rubber Soul
07/09/66 #1 Yesterday And Today
09/03/66 #1 Revolver
10/24/67 #1 Sgt. Pepper`s Lonely Hearts Club Band
12/23/67 #1 Magical Mystery Tour
12/14/68 #1 The Beatles
02/08/69 #2 Yellow Submarine
10/18/69 #1 Abbey Road
03/21/70 #2 Hey Jude
05/16/70 #117 In The Beginning
05/30/70 #1 Let It Be

26 Hot 200 Albums
23 Hot 100 Albums
20 Top Ten Albums
14 Number One Albums
120 weeks at Number One

The ROLLING STONES (June 1964 to September 1970 – 6 years, 3 months)

06/27/64 #11 England`s Newest Hitmakers
11/14/64 #3 12 x 5
03/20/65 #5 The Rolling Stones Now!
08/07/65 #1 Out Of Our Heads
12/11/65 #4 December`s Children
04/16/66 #3 Big Hits
07/09/66 #2 Aftermath
12/17/66 #6 Got Live If You Want It!
02/18/67 #2 Between The Buttons
07/22/67 #3 Flowers
12/23/67 #2 Their Satanic Majesties Request
12/14/68 #5 Beggars Banquet
09/13/69 #2 Through The Past, Darkly
12/06/69 #3 Let It Bleed

14 Hot 200 Albums
14 Hot 100 Albums
13 Top Ten Albums
1 Number One Album
3 weeks at Number One

UNITED KINGDOM

Singles

The BEATLES (October 1962 to March 1970 – 7 years, 5 months)

10/11/62 #17 Love Me Do
01/17/63 #2 Please Please Me
04/18/63 #1 From Me To You
06/06/63 #48 My Bonnie
08/29/63 #1 She Loves You
12/05/63 #1 I Want To Hold Your Hand
03/26/64 #1 Can`t Buy Me Love
04/09/64 #42 She Loves You (re-entry)
05/14/64 #48 I Want To Hold Your Hand (re-entry)
06/11/64 #29 Ain`t She Sweet
07/09/64 #47 Can`t Buy Me Love (re-entry)
07/16/64 #1 A Hard Day`s Night
12/03/64 #1 I Feel Fine
04/15/65 #1 Ticket To Ride
07/29/65 #1 Help!
12/09/65 #1 Day Tripper/We Can Work It Out
06/16/66 #1 Paperback Writer
08/11/66 #1 Yellow Submarine/Eleanor Rigby
02/23/67 #2 Strawberry Fields Forever/Penny Lane
07/12/67 #1 All You Need Is Love
11/29/67 #1 Hello Goodbye
12/13/67 #2 Magical Mystery Tour (EP)
03/20/68 #1 Lady Madonna
09/04/68 #1 Hey Jude
04/23/69 #1 Get Back
06/04/69 #1 The Ballad Of John And Yoko
11/08/69 #4 Something/Come Together
03/14/70 #2 Let It Be

25 Hit Singles
22 Top Ten Hits
17 Number One Hits
69 weeks at Number One

The ROLLING STONES (July 1963 to December 1970 – 7 years, 5 months)

07/25/63 #21 Come On
11/14/63 #12 I Wanna Be Your Man
02/27/64 #3 Not Fade Away
07/02/64 #1 It`s All Over Now
11/19/64 #1 Little Red Rooster
03/04/65 #1 The Last Time
08/26/65 #1 Satisfaction
10/28/65 #1 Get Off Of My Cloud
02/10/66 #2 19th Nervous Breakdown
05/19/66 #1 Paint It Black
09/29/66 #5 Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing In The Shadow?
01/19/67 #3 Let`s Spend The Night Together
08/23/67 #8 We Love You/Dandelion
05/29/68 #1 Jumpin` Jack Flash
07/09/69 #1 Honky Tonk Women

15 Hit Singles
13 Top Ten Singles
8 Number One Hits
18 weeks at Number One

Albums

The BEATLES (April 1963 to May 1970 – 7 years, 1 month)

04/06/63 #1 Please Please Me
11/30/63 #1 With The Beatles
07/18/64 #1 A Hard Day`s Night
12/12/64 #1 Beatles For Sale
08/14/65 #1 Help!
12/11/65 #1 Rubber Soul
08/13/66 #1 Revolver
12/10/66 #7 A Collection Of Beatles Oldies
06/03/67 #1 Sgt. Pepper`s Lonely Hearts Club Band
01/13/68 #31 Magical Mystery Tour (Import)
12/07/68 #1 The Beatles
02/01/69 #3 Yellow Submarine
10/04/69 #1 Abbey Road
05/23/70 #1 Let It Be

14 Hit Albums
13 Top Ten Albums
11 Number One Albums
162 weeks at Number One

The ROLLING STONES (April 1964 to May 1971 – 7 years, 1 month)

04/25/64 #1 The Rolling Stones
01/23/65 #1 The Rolling Stones No. 2
10/02/65 #2 Out Of Our Heads
04/23/66 #1 Aftermath
11/12/66 #4 Big Hits
01/28/67 #3 Between The Flowers
12/23/67 #3 Their Satanic Majesties Request
12/21/68 #3 Beggars Banquet
09/27/69 #2 Through The Past, Darkly
12/20/69 #1 Let It Bleed
09/19/70 #1 Get Yer Ya-Ya`s Out
04/03/71 #4 Stone Age
05/08/71 #1 Sticky Fingers

13 Hit Albums
13 Top Ten Albums
6 Number One Albums
33 weeks at Number One

bearkat77
Sep 02, 2001, 07:23 PM
Yes, rather impressive. Where did you find all of this info?

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mindgames
Sep 03, 2001, 08:15 AM
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Sep 03, 2001, 01:04 PM
What can you say - the facts speak for themselves. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif

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Wolf
Sep 03, 2001, 02:00 PM
Bearkat, my sources are:

For the US: Joel Whitburn`s "Top Pop Singles & Albums"

UK: "The Guinness Book Of British Hit Singles & Albums"

Germany: "Hit Bilanz - Deutsche Chart Singles 1956 - 1980" & "Hit Bilanz - Deutsche Chart LPs 1962 - 1986"

Italy: "40 Anni Di Hitparade Italia"

Austria: "Österreichisches Hit Lexikon"

Netherlands: can`t remember the name of the book (don`t have it anymore)

Australia: a website (url: http://www.q-net.net.au/~methinks/oz_net_music_chart.html)

Canada: also a website (url: http://1050.chum.com)

bearkat77
Sep 03, 2001, 07:43 PM
Good research, Wolf. The Beatles were, and are the dominate figures in the music world. No one will be able to accomplish what they did in as short a time frame as they did. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsup.gif

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octopus's garden
Sep 03, 2001, 08:14 PM
no one's bigger than the beatles! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/rocknroll.gif

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Wolf
Sep 05, 2001, 06:05 AM
Correct.

FPSHOT
Sep 05, 2001, 08:32 AM
Wolf,

very impressive.

When you look at the UK positions, which in fact is their both home-country and (still) one of the leading chart-countries for pop-music, the differences are amazing.

But, to ley you know that I did read it, explain please again how you came to these conclusions.

Example;

UK
Beatles
- 28 singles mentioned
- 25 hitsingles

Stones
- 15 singles mentioned
- 15 hitsingles
and I'm sure the Stones had more releases than mentioned

I also look forward to the other European comparisons, like the Dutch.

Did Australia also have charts in the 60's? http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/dance.gif

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Sep 05, 2001, 01:39 PM
I know Australia had charts back then... at one point incredibly the Beatles held 7 or 8 of the top 10 places, including the first 5.

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FPSHOT
Sep 05, 2001, 10:04 PM
I guess Nowhere Man, that you know this Australian Website. It is pretty good and shows that She Loves You was the single that was in the charts the longest, 42 weeks.

It shows all the albums/singles/EP's, who-played-what, storytellers, and more.
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/4889/


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Sep 07, 2001, 02:30 AM
That's indeed a great website FPSHOT, very informative. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/cool2.gif

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bearkat77
Sep 07, 2001, 11:43 PM
Yeah, FPSHOT. Thanks for the link. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsup.gif

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Wolf
Sep 08, 2001, 08:19 AM
FPSHOT,

to answer your question: I didn`t count the re-entries of "She Loves You", "I Want To Hold Your Hand", and "Can`t Buy Me Love" as "new" hits.

The Stones had no re-entries.

Wolf
Sep 08, 2001, 08:35 AM
FPSHOT,

The Stones singles that I listed are the ones that charted between 1963 and December 1970. I don`t know if they released more than those singles between 63 and 70, if yes, then they didn`t chart.

You can find the Dutch comparison in the "Some other countries" thread.

[This Message Has Been Edited By Wolf On September 08, 2001 08:36 AM]

See_How_They_Run
Jan 06, 2006, 03:34 PM
All I'd have to say is what my dad has been saying for it seems like years, "Whoever came out 1st would have been the best band ever....If The Stones came out before the Beatles, we would be talking about their influence rather than the Beatles" Thats how I see it also!

pattiboyd's slave
Jan 06, 2006, 10:36 PM
The Stones are original and unique in their own special way & I love the Stones as much as the Beatles, so don't get me wrong but I think anything after the Beatles is an imitation.

VersusBatman
Jan 20, 2006, 09:45 AM
Of course. The Beatles were the first British pop band to make it big in America.