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billyshears

Aug 14, 2001, 07:54 AM

I`m a junior member, so i don`t know if someone tried the topic i want to share now
(excuse me,please!).
The Topic: most overrated beatles song.

I think there are many overrated songs, i can hear the discussions, but my votes are...
-Hello Goodbye: a bubble gummers song !
-I want to hold your hand: easy listening, i
can`t understand why appears among the top
songs of all times.
-Yellow Submarine: ouchhh! for babys.

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Rellevart

Aug 14, 2001, 08:03 AM

"Eight Days A Week". Always a big crowd pleaser when a Beatles band plays it, but I can't fathom why.

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darkhorse

Aug 14, 2001, 09:47 AM

"Michelle"... awful lyrics... and "Eight Days A Week"... horrible lyrics. But both have great music anyway.

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beatlebangs1964

Aug 14, 2001, 10:11 AM

Although I respect the talent behind the creation of "Something" and the distinctive Harrison guitar, I have never been able to really like this song. "Something" remains one of my least favorites.

I just don't like "Birthday" http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsdown.gif at all and I might be in the minority on that one.

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Tim

Aug 14, 2001, 10:12 AM

I have always found Hey Jude a bit overlong and pretensious due to its overlength.

billie-I want to hold your hand is venerated as it is because this somg caused worldwide Beatlemania. This broke them in the USA.

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Aug 15, 2001, 12:16 AM

I don't think there are any that I dislike really. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/frown.gif

If I had to choose one, Revolution #9. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif

Though, that's not really overrated, is it.

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ward

Aug 15, 2001, 10:50 AM

Bungalow Bill, just because Yoko, wrecks it.

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darkhorse

Aug 15, 2001, 12:45 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Nowhere Man:
If I had to choose one, Revolution #9. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That is not a song.

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beatlebangs1964

Aug 15, 2001, 05:44 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By darkhorse:
Originally Posted By Nowhere Man:
If I had to choose one, Revolution #9. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That is not a song.

You both are so right. I never thought of Revolution #9 http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsdown.gif as a song either.

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beatlesno9

Aug 15, 2001, 06:46 PM

I don't think there are a lot of over rated Beatles tunes, but in my opinion, Love Me Do tops the short list.

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Tim

Aug 15, 2001, 08:29 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By beatlesno9:
I don't think there are a lot of over rated Beatles tunes, but in my opinion, Love Me Do tops the short list.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The importance of it being the first song cannot be overstressed.

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billyshears

Aug 16, 2001, 06:56 AM

Hello nowhere man, Revolution 9 is not a song, and isn`t overrated, that`s truth.
I think there are other songs I consider so overrated....
-Penny Lane: There`s so sugar on this song.
-Michelle: Beatles????
-Come Together: John at his worst moment.
and...The whole Revolver album, pure trash!!!

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JCB410

Aug 16, 2001, 07:22 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By billyshears:

-Come Together: John at his worst moment.
and...The whole Revolver album, pure trash!!!

[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, you're the 1st person at
Beatlelinks that I've encountered who says
that!!--(I'm surprised and wonder how others
will feel here about that comment!..)

For me, 2 overrated songs would be "Birthday"
and "Hey Jude". I think they're good tunes,
but indeed highly overrated as opposed to
say, "Strawberry Fields" and "I Will".
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mindgames

Aug 16, 2001, 07:44 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By billyshears:
The whole Revolver album, pure trash!!!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/afraid2.gif Better not let darky see that.

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Rellevart

Aug 16, 2001, 07:53 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By billyshears:
The whole Revolver album, pure trash!!!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Please, somebody, tell me she's kidding! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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beatlebangs1964

Aug 16, 2001, 07:53 AM

JCB, I don't like "Birthday" either, but I am surprised that the Revolver album/CD drew such a negative response from another poster. Ironically, "Revolver" is one my favorite albums/CDs!

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darkhorse

Aug 16, 2001, 10:48 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By billyshears:
The whole Revolver album, pure trash!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I will respect other people's opinions
I will respect other people's opinions
I will respect other people's opinions
I will respect other people's opinions
I will respect other people's opinions

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Tim

Aug 16, 2001, 03:01 PM

Billie, I cannot beleive you or anyone would say Revolver is trash. It was in the Last edition of the 200 Greatest Albums at #1,with Peppe at #2,and Pet Sound #3.

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Aug 16, 2001, 07:20 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By beatlebangs1964:
JCB, I don't like "Birthday" either, but I am surprised that the Revolver album/CD drew such a negative response from another poster. Ironically, "Revolver" is one my favorite albums/CDs!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I couldn't agree with you more
Beatlebangs'64-- and honestly, it slightly
surprises me that you'd say "ironically". Is
it because of someone else mentioning they
didn't like Revolver? I would think an
album like Revolver would be well revered
and loved by everyone on this site! (But true, we should try to respect all opinions
I suppose-http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/shakehead1.gif- JC

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bearkat77

Aug 16, 2001, 09:02 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By billyshears:
The whole Revolver album, pure trash!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Whoa!!!!! Revolver was the stepping stone for Sgt. Pepper's LHCB. Several great tracks on on this album. In fact, after the Beatles released Revolver, the Beach Boys were inspired to record Pet Sounds.

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Tim

Aug 16, 2001, 09:31 PM

Pet Sound was issued May 10,1966. Revolver was August 8,1966.

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Aug 17, 2001, 04:47 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Tim:
Pet Sound was issued May 10,1966. Revolver was August 8,1966.

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mindgames

Aug 17, 2001, 04:48 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By JCB410:
But true, we should try to respect all opinions I suppose.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I second that.

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darkhorse

Aug 17, 2001, 09:19 AM

Alright... We all know why we love "Revolver". What I would really like to hear is why did he say it was "pure trash"... It's pure gold (no pun intended), and most people in the world recognize it... so the arguments against that should be an interesting thing to hear. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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shyGirl

Aug 17, 2001, 12:37 PM

bearkat77, I can't remember who said it but they said that it was Rubber Soul that influenced the Beach Boys to make Pet Sounds.

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beatlebangs1964

Aug 17, 2001, 05:48 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Tim:
Pet Sound was issued May 10,1966. Revolver was August 8,1966.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

5/10/66 was a Wednesday.
8/ 8/66 was a Monday, two weeks before the San Francisco Swan Song Concert.

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beatlebangs1964

Aug 17, 2001, 05:54 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By JCB410:

[/b]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>...it slightly
surprises me that you'd say "ironically". Is
it because of someone else mentioning they
didn't like Revolver? I would think an
album like Revolver would be well revered
and loved by everyone on this site! (But true, we should try to respect all opinions
I suppose-http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/shakehead1.gif- JC
[/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, I did say "ironically" because 'Shears came down so hard on "Revolver." That 1966 gem remains one of my favorite collections today. I wasn't criticizing 'Shears, just voicing surprise at his/her strong adverse reaction. I love "Revolver."

"I Want to Tell You" is my favorite song on that entire collection. The lyrics are so a propos and I can relate to them 100%. As a late talker and one who has a constitutional aversion for arguments and confrontation, I can certainly understand the "...sometimes I wish I knew you well so I could speak my mind and tell you. Maybe you'd understand."

Every time I hear "But if I seem to act unkind/it's only me, it's not my mind. That is confusing things," I feel as if I found a good source of expression. That song is such a gem.

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JCB410

Aug 17, 2001, 08:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By beatlebangs1964:
Yeah, I did say "ironically" because 'Shears came down so hard on "Revolver."
JC-- Thanks for letting
me know Beatlebangs'64. I wasn't quite sure
if that's what you meant originally...

As a late talker and one who has a constitutional aversion for arguments and confrontation, I can certainly understand the "...sometimes I wish I knew you well so I could speak my mind and tell you. Maybe you'd understand."
JC-- Yeah, I know what
you mean by that great quote!... I really like it in that there seems to be a comfort
zone with really letting know a person how you feel about certain things; especially
if you know them well. Otherwise if you don't
mind me saying, I feel your comment ala:
"constitutional aversion" is very "Churchill"
(if you know what I mean). I've gotta use
that smiley to celebrate it!-http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/churchill.gif-http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

Every time I hear "But if I seem to act unkind/it's only me, it's not my mind. That is confusing things," I feel as if I found a good source of expression. That song is such a gem.
JC-- I know what you mean
there also. And yet, some of my insight there
is that at times, I feel that maybe the lyric shoud've been: "it's only my mind, not
me"... but of course it wouldn't have scanned as well as a lyric if it were that--
and it was put together by one of our heroes... http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Aug 17, 2001, 09:58 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By shyGirl:
bearkat77, I can't remember who said it but they said that it was Rubber Soul that influenced the Beach Boys to make Pet Sounds.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you. I knew it was a Beatles album that started with an "R".

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Aug 17, 2001, 09:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By mindgames:
Attaboy, http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/cat.gif. Show us your vast knowledge. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/teeth1.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So i missed it by one album. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/tongue4.gif

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**DONOTDELETE**

Aug 17, 2001, 10:20 PM

Don't let it happen again, Kat.

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**DONOTDELETE**

Aug 17, 2001, 11:37 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By darkhorse:
That is not a song.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Get over it, Horse! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/tongue.gif

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**DONOTDELETE**

Aug 17, 2001, 11:40 PM

Respecting other people's opinions is very cool and I think we should do it.

But Revolver is NOT "pure trash"!!!!!!!!!!

Right: Eleanor Rigby, Taxman, I'm Only Sleeping, Love You To, She Said She Said, For No One, Tomorrow Never Knows. Oh yeah, that is PURE trash, lemme tell ya.

billyshears, you can call Revolver trash ONLY after you've written an album full of better songs than those.

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bearkat77

Aug 18, 2001, 12:15 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By 4thGenFan:
Don't let it happen again, Kat.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm the moderator in this forum. I can do it again if I want. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/tongue1.gif

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Aug 18, 2001, 07:39 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By 4thGenFan:
Get over it, Horse! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/tongue.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>But it's not a song... It's everything but not a song!!! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/scream2.gif

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darkhorse

Aug 18, 2001, 07:41 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By 4thGenFan:
But Revolver is NOT "pure trash"!!!!!!!!!!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That album would be the best piece of music ever released... if it wasn't for "Abbey Road". Although "Revolver" is my favorite. So... I'm still waiting for the arguments against it... http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/confused.gif

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darkhorse

Aug 18, 2001, 07:44 AM

No words.

FPSHOT

Aug 18, 2001, 10:37 AM

Overrated?

Yesterday - boooorrriiinnng

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**DONOTDELETE**

Aug 18, 2001, 01:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By bearkat77:
I'm the moderator in this forum. I can do it again if I want. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/tongue1.gif

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Don't make me get Jerry involved, Kat.

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**DONOTDELETE**

Aug 18, 2001, 01:58 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By FPSHOT:
Overrated?

Yesterday - boooorrriiinnng

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But Yesterday's on Help!, not Revolver.

(and I agree, it's boring)

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jtal909

Aug 18, 2001, 02:07 PM

Yesterday is one of the best melodies ever written.

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FPSHOT

Aug 18, 2001, 02:28 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By jtal909:
Yesterday is one of the best melodies ever written.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

you forgot to add impo http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsup.gif

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bearkat77

Aug 18, 2001, 03:18 PM

Sometimes I don't even classify "Yesterday" as a Beatles song. Paul is the only member on the record. The string quartet was arranged by George Martin. John, George and Ringo don't appear anywhere on this song.

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Aug 18, 2001, 04:53 PM

FPSHOT

Aug 18, 2001, 10:44 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By bearkat77:
John, George and Ringo don't appear anywhere on this song.

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Yeah and how disappointed they were http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/beer.gif

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**DONOTDELETE**

Aug 18, 2001, 10:58 PM

I just realized that I'm an idiot. (no comments on that, please)

FPSHOT, you said "overrated? Yesterday, booorrrring" and i said something stupid like "but Yesterday's not on Revolver." I just realized that you're talking about overrated in GENERAL.

Damn I'm dumb sometimes.

And once again for the record- Yesterday is DEFINITELY overrated!

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beatlebangs1964

Aug 19, 2001, 06:12 PM

'Shears gave us a new twist. I have never thought of "Hello, Goodbye" as bubble gum. That is certainly a new twist, although I disagree. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thinker.gif I happen to love the song and think it is such a treat.

As for Revolver, it remains one of my all time favorite collections to this very day! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsup.gif

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Tim

Aug 19, 2001, 07:09 PM

I don't think Hello Goodbye is overrated either.

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Aug 19, 2001, 10:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By 4thGenFan:

FPSHOT, you said "overrated? Yesterday, booorrrring" and i said something stupid like "but Yesterday's not on Revolver." I just realized that you're talking about overrated in GENERAL.

Damn I'm dumb sometimes.

And once again for the record- Yesterday is DEFINITELY overrated!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

40, dumb/stupid, make up your mind, but looking at the last line (about yesterday), you're neither of both, there is nothing wrong with you at all.

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FPSHOT

Aug 19, 2001, 10:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Tim:
I don't think Hello Goodbye is overrated either.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree, it's not quite near the Lyrics Top 20, is it?

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Aug 19, 2001, 10:15 PM

No,but it is a happy/fun lyric,great for when I don't feel like lissening to anything 'heavy'.

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FPSHOT

Aug 19, 2001, 10:46 PM

I know what you mean. Have the same with books.

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JCB410

Aug 26, 2001, 12:18 PM

[/B][/QUOTE]I know this might be veering a
little off topic here, but does anyone out
there agree with me that "She's so Heavy" is
one of the most "underrated" B. songs?!-- I
mean, I just turned that one on recently and
it was like I heard not only The Beatles of
course, but there seems to be shades of
John Mclaughlin, Black Sabbath, The Four
Tops (on Acid maybe?-http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif and a host of other
influences in it I say!!

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bearkat77

Aug 26, 2001, 01:44 PM

"I Want You (She's So Heavy)" is a bit underrated, IMO. Somewhat bluesy in origin, it does have a strong musical backing to it. It took roughly 8 months from inception to final mix and shows some style of John's "new" songwriting technique.

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JCB410

Aug 26, 2001, 10:36 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By bearkat77:
"I Want You (She's So Heavy)" is a bit underrated, IMO. Somewhat bluesy in origin, it does have a strong musical backing to it. It took roughly 8 months from inception to final mix and shows some style of John's "new" songwriting technique.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Thanks for your comment-- do you
mean John's guitar "fingerpicking" technique
on the song, or the way he was writing in general with the tune?..

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Beatleicious

Aug 26, 2001, 10:41 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By darkhorse:
Although "Revolver" is my favorite.

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Revolver is my fav too, tied with Rubber Soul http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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Aug 27, 2001, 05:49 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Beatleicious:
Revolver is my fav too, tied with Rubber Soul http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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Aug 27, 2001, 05:57 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By JCB410:
Thanks for your comment-- do you
mean John's guitar "fingerpicking" technique
on the song, or the way he was writing in general with the tune?..
[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
In case you refer to the basic guitar 'fingerpicking' which goes from almost beginning to end, impo that's George.

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**DONOTDELETE**

Aug 27, 2001, 10:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By FPSHOT:
Agree, it's not quite near the Lyrics Top 20, is it?

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Haha! FP my man, I like the way you think.

Hello Goodbye is yet another display of Paul's pathetic writing. Not that he was ALWAYS pathetic at it.

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Aug 27, 2001, 10:10 PM

Anyone else agree that George's songs starting with the RUBBER SOUL album are WAY underrated??

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beatlejes

Aug 27, 2001, 10:14 PM

>JC-- I know what you mean
there also. And yet, some of my insight there
is that at times, I feel that maybe the lyric shoud've been: "it's only my mind, not
me"... but of course it wouldn't have scanned as well as a lyric if it were that--
and it was put together by one of our heroes...

I thought I heard somewhere that when George sang "I Want To Tell You" on tour in Japan in '91, he changed the lyrics to 'It isn't me, it's just my mind'. Does anyone have a copy of the recording to confirm this?

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Aug 27, 2001, 10:19 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By beatlejes:
I feel that maybe the lyric shoud've been: "it's only my mind, not
me"... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It makes sense, though, if you think of the next line:
IT'S ONLY ME, IT'S NOT MY MIND
THAT IS CONFUSING THINGS.

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JCB410

Aug 27, 2001, 11:16 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By FPSHOT:
Originally Posted By JCB410:
Thanks for your comment-- do you
mean John's guitar "fingerpicking" technique
on the song, or the way he was writing in general with the tune?..
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
In case you refer to the basic guitar 'fingerpicking' which goes from almost beginning to end, impo that's George.

[/B]Actually, I'm glad you bring that
up, because I feel I should correct myself--
I always thought along with some Beatle pals
of mine that it was a combination of George
and John playing that SSH 'fingerpicking'
line... could that be the case, or do you
'definitely know' it's just George?...

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Aug 27, 2001, 11:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By 4thGenFan:
It makes sense, though, if you think of the next line:
IT'S ONLY ME, IT'S NOT MY MIND
THAT IS CONFUSING THINGS.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah, I think I see what you
mean there in a way. But for some reason,
that's been one of the only Beatle lyrics
I still feel in question about. But that
cold be another irony about the tune: George's last line in that lyric is "that is
confusing things"... and it still leaves me
a little "confused"-http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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darkhorse

Aug 28, 2001, 09:13 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By 4thGenFan:
Anyone else agree that George's songs starting with the RUBBER SOUL album are WAY underrated??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I totally agree. Never heard on radio here. But I don't think "Hello Goodbye" is "pathetic"... http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/nono.gif

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joe

Aug 29, 2001, 09:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By jtal909:
Yesterday is one of the best melodies ever written.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
why are people voting it off Yesterday and Today Survivor?http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/sleep1.gif

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Aug 29, 2001, 11:50 PM

Because it's boring.

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FPSHOT

Aug 30, 2001, 03:52 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By JCB410:
I always thought along with some Beatle pals
of mine that it was a combination of George
and John playing that SSH 'fingerpicking'
line... could that be the case, or do you
'definitely know' it's just George?...

[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I must correct probably, cause Lewishon although not really specified, writes that they did various overdubs of the Lennon/Harrison guitars to create the massive sound that they wanted. It does not say if that refers also to the fingerpicking part, but I guess it may well be so, or at least near the end where the actual massive finale starts.

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FPSHOT

Aug 30, 2001, 03:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By 4thGenFan:

Haha! FP my man, I like the way you think.

Hello Goodbye is yet another display of Paul's pathetic writing. Not that he was ALWAYS pathetic at it.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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If you see the video you can see only Paul seems to like it. The others just think ; what am I doing here http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/shakehead2.gif

You say yes, I say no,
You say why

AND SO DO I !!!!!!!!

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Aug 30, 2001, 11:06 PM

http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/rolling3.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/laugh2.gif

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**DONOTDELETE**

Aug 30, 2001, 11:07 PM

He might as well have just done the whole song like

You say yes, I say no
You say stop, I say go
You say white, I say black
You say good, I say bad
You say high, I say low
etc.

Brilliant, I tell you.

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bearkat77

Sep 02, 2001, 08:26 PM

"Hello Goodbye" is rather overrated with its simplicity towards the lyrics. Generally reminds me of bubble-gum pop that was being released during that time frame.

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Tim

Sep 03, 2001, 03:32 AM

It is a great song...there is bauty in its simplicity.

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jtal909

Sep 03, 2001, 06:59 AM

Sometimes Hello Goodbye can annoy me, but if I'm in the mood to listen to the music and melody it's actually a well crafted song.

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Sep 03, 2001, 06:33 PM

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Sep 03, 2001, 11:55 PM

It's very bautiful, it is. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsup.gif

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Sep 08, 2001, 01:33 PM

Thank you ,i love you all, i`m amazed, very amazed, the replies were excellents, I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HANDS!!!!!.
Well, i said REVOLVER IS PURE TRASH, that was my opinion until these days, but now after your replies i think is a masterpiece.
Hello goodbye sounds to me like an nsync song!!!.

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darkhorse

Sep 08, 2001, 06:44 PM

Using "Beatles" and the name of the other group in the same phrase is absolutely forbidden... http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/nono.gif

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**DONOTDELETE**

Sep 09, 2001, 10:28 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By darkhorse:
Using "Beatles" and the name of the other group in the same phrase is absolutely forbidden... http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/nono.gif

http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

But everyone has choice. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't agree, I don't think people SHOULD have a choice. It should be Beatles or nothing.

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Sep 10, 2001, 08:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By 4thGenFan:
It should be Beatles or nothing.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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billyshears

Sep 17, 2001, 08:18 AM

So, if you go to the Revolver survivor topic,
and read carefully the reasons you gave, many songs on that album are UNEVEN; I was amazed because many posts were similars to my
feelings, I said the whole album is trash, and now i accept i wasn`t fair, but i still believe REVOLVER is an OVERRATED album.
Please, read again the revolver topic and you will find surprises!!!!
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Sep 21, 2001, 02:32 AM

Im sorry but I have to say that I want To Your Hand is not overrated!
I love it!!!!!
It's projected more at girls than what it is boys! and I know it's one of their pop songs but then again so is she loves you!!

If I was in the sixties I would hold John's hand any day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

with love from me to you
Beatle Chick
xxxx

Ps I do agree that Yellow sub is for babies!!!!

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Sep 21, 2001, 03:59 PM

I agree British Beatle Chick. I Want To Hold Your Hand set the standards for the new sound in http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/rocknroll.gif

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bearkat77

Sep 22, 2001, 10:08 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Beatle Chick:
If I was in the sixties I would hold John's hand any day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You and just about half the women in the world. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Beatle Chick:
Ps I do agree that Yellow sub is for babies!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not overrated, nor underrated, just one of those "feel good" songs. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif

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Sep 22, 2001, 10:09 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By jtal909:
I Want To Hold Your Hand set the standards for the new sound in http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/rocknroll.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not just http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/rocknroll.gif, but the entire realm of music.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By bearkat77:
Originally Posted By Beatle Chick:
If I was in the sixties I would hold John's hand any day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You and just about half the women in the world. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif
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And the other half would be holding his other hand, no doubt. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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