The Beatles and Frank Ifield LP

[mindgames]

Hey guys, I got this record last night called The Beatles and Frank Ifield On Stage. Does anybody have any info on this that they could share? Thanks.

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[Harbidge]

I can. If original, it's worth quite a bit.

Originally, the album was released with a picture of what is known around the collecting circles as 'the jolly old man' which is a drawing of an old man holding a pair of glasses to his eyes. On originals, the background colour is blue, while on fakes its black. There is also no text down the spine on fakes.

The reissue of this LP is much, much rarer. In fact it's the rarest US lp to be officically released. The story behind it is that Vee Jay's Beatle rights were about to expire, and so they rushed a reissue of this album with a different cover. The cover is of a hand-drawn picture of the Beatles themselves. Less than 100 copies of this album were supposedly pressed. On the fakes of these covers, the picture quality is distintively inferior to originals, ans also lacks any spine printing.

For the labels on the record, the print HAS to be sharp and clear, and have no errors. If the type is blurry or messy, then it's a fake.

I hope this has helped you.

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This week, 'Beatles 1' is at No. 42 in the UK Album charts.
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[Harbidge]

Here's a link to a webpage that'll help.
http://www.geocities.com/flangehead2/Counterfeits/JollyWhat.html

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This week, 'Beatles 1' is at No. 42 in the UK Album charts.
This week, 'Wingspan' is at No. 13 in the UK Album charts.

[Harbidge]

http://www.friktech.com/btls/vj1085.jpg
http://www.friktech.com/btls/1085-1.jpg
*Logo cover and Label*

Beatles and Frank Ifield On Stage Vee Jay VJLP 1085 (mono)
Cover features the drawing of a man with glasses, a moustache, and a Beatle haircut. May be found with oval, brackets, or all black "VJ" label styles. All three are of equal value.
About 60,000 copies exist.

value: $250

http://www.friktech.com/btls/sr1085.jpg
*Stereo cover*

Beatles and Frank Ifield On Stage Vee Jay VJSR 1085 (stereo)
Cover features the drawing of a man with glasses, a moustache, and a Beatle haircut. May be found with oval style, two different brackets styles, or all black "VJ" label style. All three are of equal value. This is a stereo album; "Please Please Me," "Ask Me Why," and the Ifield songs should PLAY IN STEREO. Also, the label says stereo.
About 4,000 copies exist.

value: $500

The above two albums are also called Jolly What! because these words appear at the top of the front cover. The albums have been counterfeited. All originals should have printing on the spine and should otherwise resemble other Vee Jay albums. The album was reissued with artwork from the "Love Me Do" US picture sleeve. Since the change happened in Fall, 1964, and since Vee Jay stopped issuing Beatles records in mid-October, both mono and stereo issues are rare

http://www.friktech.com/btls/vj1085a.jpg
*V.rare reissue mono cover*

Beatles and Frank Ifield On Stage Vee Jay VJLP 1085 (mono)
Cover features a drawing of the four Beatles and lists the four Beatles songs featured on the album. Normally found with the all black label, but all three are of equal value.
Possibly 3,000 copies pressed.

value: $3,500

http://www.friktech.com/btls/sr1085-2.jpg
*Stupidly rare reissue stereo cover*

Beatles and Frank Ifield On Stage Vee Jay VJSR 1085 (stereo)
Cover features a drawing of the four Beatles and lists the four Beatles songs featured on the album. May be found with oval, brackets, or all black "VJ" label styles. Normally found with the all black label, but all three are of equal value. This is a stereo album; "Please Please Me," "Ask Me Why," and the Ifield songs should PLAY IN STEREO. Also, the label says stereo.
Possibly 500 copies pressed.

value: $8,000+

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There you go. That should give you enough info. So what is it? Counterfeit, or very rare stereo reissue??? http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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This week, 'Beatles 1' is at No. 42 in the UK Album charts.
This week, 'Wingspan' is at No. 13 in the UK Album charts.

[This Message Has Been Edited By bearkat77 On June 02, 2001 12:09 AM]

[mindgames]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By Harbidge:
http://www.friktech.com/btls/sr1085.jpg
*Stereo cover*

Beatles and Frank Ifield On Stage Vee Jay VJSR 1085 (stereo)
Cover features the drawing of a man with glasses, a moustache, and a Beatle haircut. May be found with oval style, two different brackets styles, or all black "VJ" label style. All three are of equal value. This is a stereo album; "Please Please Me," "Ask Me Why," and the Ifield songs should PLAY IN STEREO. Also, the label says stereo.
About 4,000 copies exist.

value: $500

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This looks and sounds like the one I got. $500? http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/shocked.gif I gave $20 for it. I hope it's the real deal!



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This week, the Beatles greatest hits album, "1", is at number thirty-six on the USA album charts. "Wingspan: Hits and History" by Paul McCartney is at number nine.

[mindgames]

Oh yeah, thanks, Harb! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsup.gif

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This week, the Beatles greatest hits album, "1", is at number thirty-six on the USA album charts. "Wingspan: Hits and History" by Paul McCartney is at number nine.

Let us know if you find out anything further. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/thumbsup.gif

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[bearkat77]

Harb, I fixed your post so the first two images showed up. You didn't separate them.

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[Harbidge]

No worries Mindgames. Just be careful before saying it's an original. I said that when I got my first Introducing the Beatles. I went around saying it was worth $7,000 too. How naive I was.

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Containing EVERY clue ever found about this conspiracy, Paul is Dead - The Conclusive Evidence (http://www.paulisdead.net) will change your mind about this bizarre coverup.

This week, 'Beatles 1' is at No. 42 in the UK Album charts.
This week, 'Wingspan' is at No. 13 in the UK Album charts.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By Harbidge:
No worries Mindgames. Just be careful before saying it's an original. I said that when I got my first Introducing the Beatles. I went around saying it was worth $7,000 too. How naive I was.

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How did you confirm in the end that it was indeed a fake?



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[Harbidge]

I came to my senses.

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Containing EVERY clue ever found about this conspiracy, Paul is Dead - The Conclusive Evidence (http://www.paulisdead.net) will change your mind about this bizarre coverup.

This week, 'Beatles 1' is at No. 42 in the UK Album charts.
This week, 'Wingspan' is at No. 13 in the UK Album charts.

[Harbidge]

Seriously, I went to a website that specialised in telling you how to determine whether or not your copy of Intro was fake or not. Mine had coloured dots underneath the white at the top of the back cover. Fake http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/frown.gif Oh well, I got 4 originals that have a combined total of over $1,000, so it's not all bad. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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Containing EVERY clue ever found about this conspiracy, Paul is Dead - The Conclusive Evidence (http://www.paulisdead.net) will change your mind about this bizarre coverup.

This week, 'Beatles 1' is at No. 42 in the UK Album charts.
This week, 'Wingspan' is at No. 13 in the UK Album charts.

[Tim]

That don't compare to me getting a VG+ Songs,Stories and Pictures at a flea market for $3.00 http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif

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[Harbidge]

I bought my first original copy of Introducing the Beatles for just $20. It's worth over $400.

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Containing EVERY clue ever found about this conspiracy, Paul is Dead - The Conclusive Evidence (http://www.paulisdead.net) will change your mind about this bizarre coverup.

This week, 'Beatles 1' is at No. 42 in the UK Album charts.
This week, 'Wingspan' is at No. 13 in the UK Album charts.