100 Greatest Albums

[bearkat77]

VH1 has released their list of the 100 greatest albums of all time and the Beatles top the list with "Revolver".

NEW YORK (AP) - "Revolver," which bridged the Beatles' moptop era with their experimental years in the studio, was judged the best album in rock and roll history by experts in a VH1 poll released Thursday. The Beatles accounted for five of the top 11 spots on VH1's list of the 100 greatest albums. VH1 polled more than 500 journalists, music executives and artists. Wyclef Jean, Britney Spears, Carole King, Jackson Browne, Elvis Costello and Roberta Flack were among the respondents. "Revolver," which was released in 1966, included "She Said She Said," "Taxman," "Here, There and Everywhere" and "Tomorrow Never Knows." The album's reputation has grown recently, particularly when its CD re-release restored songs left off the original American record. It has eclipsed the better-known "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," which was No. 10 on VH1's list but judged only the fourth best Beatles album.

"Rubber Soul" (No. 6), "Abbey Road" (No. 8) and "The Beatles," also known as the White album (No. 11), were the other Beatles discs on the list. Nirvana's 1991 "Nevermind," which launched the grunge rock era, was No. 2 on the list, followed by the Beach Boys' 1966 "Pet Sounds," which founder Brian Wilson performed in its entirety on a concert tour last year. Two artists who died under tragic circumstances rounded out the Top 5: Marvin Gaye's socially conscious "What's Going On," from 1971 and the Jimi Hendrix Experience's "Are You Experienced," from 1967. The oldest music on the list was from Elvis Presley's "Sun Sessions," recorded in 1954-55 although not released as an album until 1976, and the newest was Lauryn Hill's 1998 "The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill" (No. 37).

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[HeyBeatle]

I know many people of my generation find Nirvana to be their Beatles as it were and Kurt Cobain to be their John Lennon, but when I heard that "Nevermind" was number two and saw that BOB DYLAN was below Nirvana I was shocked and appalled. I hardly consider Nirvana to be the same calibur as half the artists in the top ten, let alone one step below the Beatles.
On a lighter note I think it was cool to see Revolver considered the greatest album, usually its Sgt Pepper or Rubber Soul.

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[bearkat77]

I agree with you about Nirvana. I think they are overrated. The good thing about this list is that the Beatles have several top spots on it.

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[jtal909]

But seriously, folks, you could put every Beatles album on this list. No joke. If Nirvana made the list because it was a "breakthrough" album in a way, why isn't Meet The Beatles on there?

[FPSHOT]

What about ATMP?

[Lucy]

Enough with the Nirvana bashing!! I've defended them in here before and I'm not even a major fan of theirs.
I wouldn't say for a moment that they were overrated. Their music is beautifully written and performed - if you don't like it, you can at least say that about it.
I realise that this probably going to be the beginnings of some kind of huge online disagreement but I'm ready for whatever you have to throw at me!!! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif
They really were a great band. Kurt was a big Beatles fan....now, doesn't that tell you something??!! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

[iFrog]

Not that it matters much for the purpose of this discussion but since when is VH1 considered to be nothing more than a glorified name for MTV? And by and large the grunge phenomenon sucked big time anyway. A few good albums, that's all.

[georgefan]

I really hate to fan the flames of a truly useless rant, but IMHO Nirvana would not be nearly so famous (infamous?) if Kurt Cobain hadn't offed himself...

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I'd be quite prepared for that eventuality

[Lucy]

Actually, they were already very, very successful and hugely famous before Kurt killed himself. They were too big for the "not nearly as famous" argument....they were always going to be famous whether the members lived or died.
Of course his death has added to their popularity and legend but it certainly didn't make them what they already were.
I know this is an irrelevant argument but I just hate to see a band of such merit put down so badly!! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/frown.gif

[jami]

I'm going to have to agree with Lucy on this. I think Nirvana was a terrific band! To me......very revolutionary in itself. They basically started the grunge thing(I like grunge, by the way!) What Nirvava did in the 90's is what the Beatles did in the 60's. I think, of course they aren't as fab as the Beatles were.....but this is what music is all about! The Beatles set the stage for young talant like Nirvana to go out and do what they loved to do.....AND be good at it!

[HeyBeatle]

Hey Don't get me wrong they should be on the list of the top 100 but just not on the top. I can't think of any one of the beatles contemporaries who have equaled the Beatles but I can think of numerous bands that were Nirvana's contemporaries that did just about the same thing that Nirvana did.



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[**DONOTDELETE**]

I love Nirvana. Don't think they should've been ahead of Bob Dylan...but I love them nonetheless.

Ok, on a completely different note- is anyone else COMPLETELY sick of these damn VH1/MTV/Rolling Stone Top 100 lists? We were discussing this VH1 thing in a Yahoo club and I was just asking how many freakin times do they have to let us know the top 100 albums, singers, performers, artists, pop songs, rock songs, etc.?? It's very unsettling. Especially when they ask the opinions of such BRILLIANT musical geniuses like Britney Spears, NSYNC (Justin likes "Norwegian Wood cuz....it's really good."), and Madonna.

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[Tim]

Nirvana being in there doesn't bother me--just being ahead of my fave LP of all Pet Sounds. Also The Who Sell Out is a LP I'd rate ahead of Nevermind...
Also where did Tommy and Aftermath figure in,or did they?

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[beatlegirl]

I'm not a huge nirvana fan but I think they did a lot for music,I think rubber soul should have been the #1 album!

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[Glen V]

Originally posted by bearkat77:
[B]VH1 has released their list of the 100 greatest albums of all time and the Beatles top the list with "Revolver".

The Beatles accounted for five of the top 11 spots on VH1's list of the 100 greatest albums. VH1 polled more than 500 journalists, music executives and artists.

"Rubber Soul" (No. 6), "Abbey Road" (No. 8) and "The Beatles," also known as the White album (No. 11), were the other Beatles discs on the list.

Two artists who died under tragic circumstances rounded out the Top 5: Marvin Gaye's socially conscious "What's Going On," from 1971 and the Jimi Hendrix Experience's "Are You Experienced," from 1967.
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Bearkat77 :

I was and still am a big Marvin Gaye fan from the early 1960s along with the Beatles. It doesn't surprise me about Marvin's "What's Going On" album. I remember when "What's Going On" and "Mercy Mercy Me" came out during all the riots and burning of the major USA cities in protest during this time-frame. "Inner City Blues" and "Save The Children" were also great. Marvin's "What's Going On" album was released in May 21, 1971. This album of Marvin's today "STILL" has a big influence on Social Awareness & Culture among ourselves as the Beatles had..!!

GV

[Original Fan]

jtal: You're so right (as usual!)

[jtal909]

We think alike. Must be a geographical, generation thing.

[Lucy]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jami:
I'm going to have to agree with Lucy on this...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OFan, jtal: You sound just like Jami and myself!! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

[Original Fan]

Yes, Lucy, jtal and I are almost always of the same mind-set. We live in neighboring states and are about 3 years apart in age, so maybe that's why. BTW, Glen is right about Marvin Gaye's impact on the mores of the '60s. He mustn't be overlooked, and, obviously isn't.

[Tim]

No disrespect to Marvin Gaye,but the whole Motown Sound in general was big in the 60s,which is why Marvin gets overlooked,as his label mates were Diana Ross and The Supremes,Smokey Robinson and the Miracles,Tempataions,Four Tops,Little Stevie Wonder,teh Marvelettes,Junior Walker and the All-Stars,and many many more.

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[jtal909]

Back then, among the kids I hung out with, a line was drawn as to whether you liked the Beatles or Motown. I liked both, but the Beatles stood alone.

[bearkat77]

Growing up during the '60's, I had the same problem. There were several of my friends that enjoyed Motown more. I, however, stood my ground and stayed with the Beatles.

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[Tim]

What's sadly forgotten about Marvin is all the hits with Tammi Terrell before she died in 1970.
Tammi,Marvin all Motown fans still miss both of you http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/cry.gif


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...Not to mention Marvin Gaye.

[Original Fan]

I can honestly say I don't remember any lines being drawn between a preference for the Beatles or Motown. Both dominated the music of the '60s, but Motown was comprised of numerous artists, while The Beatles were an entity unto themselves. I enjoyed both, as did all my friends, and we felt fortunate to have such a wealth of music at our disposal. We knew we were born at the right time!!!

[Jerry]

One of the greatest things about that Top 100 list is that there are no Van Halen albums on it AT ALL. I love teasing Brett about it. To be fair, I think I'd have to put their first album and 1984 on there. But there's no question that The White Album would be pushed up to #1. And oh yeah, I'd take out about 50 albums that have no business being there.

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[This message has been edited by Jerry (edited January 18, 2001 at 01:15 PM).]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HeyBeatle:
I've seen Marvin Gaye on the tops of most top 100 lists, atleast in the top 20 or 30.

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HeyBeatle, what did I say! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

[HeyBeatle]

I'm sorry I have a blind spot the size of your post. j/k I probably saw the whole thing on Marvin Gaye and just pressed post reply. I'll be sure to check for any of your witty comments before doing so in the future.

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" Go to the window... Go to the window."

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I'll forgive you... but just this once http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

[HeyBeatle]

I've seen Marvin Gaye on the tops of most top 100 lists, atleast in the top 20 or 30. Someone I think they look over is Billy Joel he's usually on the lists but not as high as he ought to be. Tome he seems like the only pianist to equal Elton John, certainly not in stage presence but definitely in the talent and musical creativity department.

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" Are you a mod or a rocker?"
" No I'm a mocker."

" Go to the window... Go to the window."

"Oh won't you please, please help me!"-Fred

[jtal909]

Lots of people are starting to get edgy lately. Must be something in the water.

Since we're all made up of about 70% water, it's probably just us http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

[Original Fan]

You know, jtal, it might just be the Post-Holiday Blues!

Which won't be til March in my case, MUHAHAHAHAHAHA http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif

[jtal909]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nowhere Man:
Since we're all made up of about 70% water, it's probably just us http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now that's funny!

[Glen V]

Originally posted by Original Fan:
I can honestly say I don't remember any lines being drawn between a preference for the Beatles or Motown. Both dominated the music of the '60s, but Motown was comprised of numerous artists, while The Beatles were an entity unto themselves. I enjoyed both, as did all my friends, and we felt fortunate to have such a wealth of music at our disposal. We knew we were born at the right time!!!
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OFAN : You're RIGHT..!! We were born at the right time. BEATLES and the MOTOWN sound. Come to think about it, I don't remember taking sides during my time-frame.

GV

[Original Fan]

And, Glen, let's not exclude the other members of the British Invasion. Some of them made some pretty good music, too! For example, I'll always love Dusty Springfield. I have all her recordings and never tire of listening to her. What a tragic loss her death was.

[jtal909]

Orig, I love Dusty (suprised?). My band even tried to do a few of her tunes but they didn't work out. Couldn't make the vocals work.

[jtal909]

.....and yes, we got to experience some incredible music.

[Original Fan]

As you well know, jtal, Dusty's voice was unique. I got to see her at one of Murray the K's holiday shows at the Brooklyn Paramount Theater in 1964. I was so thrilled, I cried!

[jtal909]

I think I had a crush on her.

[Glen V]

OFAN & jtal909 :
Dusty was great..! However, I do remember many "Cross-Over" music during the British invasion. Indeed, the Beatles did sing other artists songs like "You Really Got a Hold On Me" (Smokey Robinson), "Mr. Moonlight" (Dr. Feelgood & the Interns), "Long Tall Sally" (Little Richard), "Shout" & "Twist and Shout" (The Isley Brothers), and "Money" (Berry Gordy). Heck, I even remember my folks taking me to a FOUR TOPS concert in Phoenix, Arizona back in the Mid-60s listening to them sing Beatles tunes. There were the Beatles and the MOTOWN Sound back then for me growing up...!

[Tim]

Petula Clark :also a brilliant songstress.


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[jtal909]

I think I had a crush on her too!

[bearkat77]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jtal909:
I think I had a crush on her too!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Join the club... Downtown. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif

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[Original Fan]

Tim, jtal and 'kat: I recently saw a profile of Petula Clark on the BRAVO network. She's still going strong and sounds just great. She also appears in Atlantic City every once in a while, jtal. She still has legions of fans who adore her. I, too, loved her records. I must confess, however, I never had a crush on her!

[bearkat77]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Original Fan:
I must confess, however, I never had a crush on her!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You don't know what you're missing. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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[jtal909]

So she plays Atlantic City.......

[jtal909]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jtal909:
So she plays Atlantic City.......<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

that's a little over an hour from me.

[PennyLane]

I have a few cents to put into this piggy bank of a conversation.

THE TOP HUNDRED AND NIRVANA: The problem with all of these 'Top 100' lists are that the criteria is rarely adequately defined. They don't explain it well enough. If it was the 'Top 100 Most Influencial', it would be an entirely different list than the 'Top 100 Most Memorable', which would be different than the 'Top 100 Breakthroughs.' People make 'bast' lists, but there isn't really such thing because of musical diversity. The problem is that there isn't much (or any) criteria listed, so it is difficult to say which albums should proceed which. It seems to me, though, that if it was a 'breakthrough' list, then Nirvana's spot is justified.

PETULA CLARK: I like her music, but what did she ever do besides 'Downtown'?

[jtal909]

PC also did "My Love" is greater than the the stars that shine....

[Original Fan]

jtal: I mentioned Petula's A.C. gigs 'cause I know you live on the Jersey shore. Let's not forget some of her other hits: Love, This is My Song, Don't Sleep in the Subway, etc.....

[Original Fan]

..."I Couldn't Live Without Your Love"...

[jtal909]

Orig, thanks for mentioning those. They bring back some good feelings. Haven't heard them in years. Seems that you don't hear her much on the classic rock formats. Even Dusty you only might hear "I Only Want To Be With You".

[Original Fan]

jtal: How about "I Know a Place" by Petula? Another hit we almost forgot. As for Dusty's air play, do you listen to WCBS-FM (101.1) often? She gets her due on that station with several of her hits, such as "You Don't Have to Say You Love Me" and "Wishin' & Hopin'". Of course, "I Only Want to be With You" is played more often than the others, but it's always great to hear!

[jtal909]

Orig, I just discovered 101.1 and haven't heard DUsty yet but will be listening. They play a lot of Beatles.
I have a 45 of I Know A Place. How could I forget? One of the few things I have from childhood is my 45 collection, including some Beatles with picture sleeves.

[Original Fan]

jtal: So glad you're tuning in to my FAVORITE radio station. This past week-end was devoted entirely to the Beatles in recognition of the 37th Anniversary of their arrival in the U.S. I had the radio on non-stop for the entire week-end and enjoyed every minute of it! As you keep listening, you'll hear lots of songs from the British Invasion, but, the station plays all the oldies, so there's quite a mix. The dee-jays are so knowledgeable and very personable. You'll grow to love WCBS as much as I do, I've no doubt. Happy listening!

[jtal909]

I heard some of that Beatles weekend but did not know what it was for. they played a bit of a Paul interview where he was reflecting on their past work and mentioned the lyrics to "Because". He said, "Because the world is round, it turns me on. How cool was that!!??"

[Original Fan]

Yes, the entire week-end was filled with tidbits of taped interviews and promotional material. It's amazing how lyrical The Beatles were; and they made it all seem so effortless. What a gift!

[vincenthanna]

I agree and slightly disagree with the list, If I had the choice mine Is below-

1 The Beatles - Revolver (1966)
2 The Beatles - Abbey Road (1969)
3 The Beatles - Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967)
4 The Beatles - The Beatles [White Album] (1968)
5 Elvis Presley - The Sun Sessions (1976) (songs recorded 1954-1955)
6 The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds (1966)
7 The Beatles - Rubber Soul (1965)
8 Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde (1966)
9 Nirvana - Nevermind (1991)
10 Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced? (1967)

and thats not being biased to The Beatles, their albums are that good, Elvis' Sun Sessions is absolutley fantastic and I urge people who havn't heard It or got It to go out and buy It to hear the birth or rock n roll, and as we all know, If no Elvis - no Beatles, quoted by Paul himself.

[twovirgins]

and thats not being biased to The Beatles, their albums are that good, Elvis' Sun Sessions is absolutley fantastic and I urge people who havn't heard It or got It to go out and buy It to hear the birth or rock n roll, and as we all know, If no Elvis - no Beatles, quoted by Paul himself.
I agree that the sun sessions and the "million dollar quartet"sessions are the big EL at his finest
but may I say without bill monroe and leiber and stoller and many many black artists there would be no Elvis

[vincenthanna]

yes you are correct twovirgins, credit is due to everyone and anyone when needed, we could go back further but that is where im gonna stop :laugh5:

[.Psychedelic.Stars.]

Umm, I like a lot of the songs on Revolver, some of my favorites actually are: I'm Only Sleeping, Elenor Rigby, Yellow Submarine, and For No One, but even though, I have to say I wouldn't vote for it to be #1. I dunno I think albums like Rubber Soul or the White Album deserve top spot instead.

[vincenthanna]

Elvis speaking on his 'comeback' special 1968

''...music has changed a lot in the last 10 years or so, the sound has improved, the muscians and engineers have improved. I like a lot of the new groups, you know - The Beatles and I really like a lot of the new music, but a lot of it basically, Rock N Roll music is basically Gospel and Rhythm & Blues, well alright, it sprang from that, and people have been adding to it, experimenting with it...''

This quote is basically an explanation of the music Elvis was raised on, and when he says about the experimenting, he must be referring to an album like The Beatles' Sgt Peppers becuase i feel The Beatles were the first group to take Rock N Roll and experiment.