In Their Eyes There's Something Lacking, What They Need's A Damn Good Whacking! [Archive]

HeyBeatle

Dec 30, 2000, 02:20 PM

I like it, my friends heard it and thought I was nuts for liking it but oh well to each his own.

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georgefan

Dec 30, 2000, 07:28 PM

Of course I like it!!!

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I'd be quite prepared for that eventuality

bearkat77

Dec 30, 2000, 10:15 PM

"Piggies" is a pretty good song. However, I wouldn't classify it as one of George's best tunes.

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iFrog

Jan 03, 2001, 04:33 PM

Dynamite song from a dynamite album. The lyrics definitely require a second look. As do all of George's songs. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/cool.gif

Paul_McCartney2002

Jan 03, 2001, 06:17 PM

I love that song, the pig sounds are funny, and yet the song it self has a very true meaning.

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Glen V

Jan 03, 2001, 06:43 PM

George's Piggies song is thumbs up..!

GV

jtal909

Jan 03, 2001, 06:44 PM

I'm with you, Kat.

FPSHOT

Jan 06, 2001, 01:14 PM

For those who have not read I Me Mine, this is George's comment.

It was a social comment. He was stuck for one line in the middle part until his mother came up with the line

'what they need is damn good wacking'.

which is a damned good throttling and a nice simple way of saying that they need a good hiding.

It had nothing to do with American policemen or Californian shagnasties.

There was an extra verse which was not used and it goes like this

everywhere there's lots of piggies
playing piggie pranks
you can see them on their trotters
at the piggie banks
paying piggy thanks
to thee pig brother.

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Harbidge

Jan 06, 2001, 11:24 PM

A little known fact about this song, is that Paul purposely plucked the string of his bass with quite some force in order to make his bass make pig-like sounds.

In response to the question, yeah, it's a pretty good song, but as Bearkat says, it's not one of his best.

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Original Fan

Jan 07, 2001, 12:05 PM

Thanks for the reminder, FPSHOT. I had forgotten that about that comment.

iFrog

Jan 07, 2001, 12:17 PM

Amen, brother Amen.

beatlegirl

Jan 09, 2001, 03:21 PM

I love the song piggies it's so cute!http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/tongue.gif

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darkhorse

Jan 21, 2001, 05:32 PM

I also like the song. Beautiful arrangements, good harmony, and a good way to do a social comment. Plus, should the credit of that song be Harrison/Lennon/Harrison? Because, you know... John Lennon said "I gave him a couple of verses about forks and knives and eating bacon", and Louise Harrison, George's mother was the one who came up with the line "What they need's a damn good whacking!"

jtal909

Jan 21, 2001, 06:17 PM

Don't start or they'll get him in court again!

FPSHOT

Jan 21, 2001, 09:04 PM

And after that he will write a new version of This Song. This Song 200?

'This song, has nothing Piggie about it'.

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We're all Apple Scruffs

Jan 21, 2001, 10:46 PM

Just on that note, I spotted the following little section in a Woman's Day magazine here (my sister brought it home, I swear!)...

"Will someone tell George Harrison to let it be? The former Beatle has attacked Paul McCartney and John Lennon, claiming their egomania stifled his talent and that he is the Fab Four's best songwriter!"

Nothing that'll start another World War, I'm sure.

FPSHOT

Jan 21, 2001, 11:25 PM

Some Down Under gossip magazine I assume. George has made various comments about not being happy at that time because of too little recording time and too little attention for his material, but he - ofcourse - did not go that far.

There's nothing tricky about it.

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We're all Apple Scruffs

[This message has been edited by FPSHOT (edited January 22, 2001 at 12:25 AM).]

Jan 22, 2001, 12:02 AM

Yeah, merely gossip. I'm not sure about George being the 'best' songwriter among John and Paul, but I do think he had a right to feel a little annoyed at a lot of his material being left out.

FPSHOT

Jan 22, 2001, 01:09 PM

It's nice to know that ATMP has been one of the most succesfull solo albums. Some of the material he wrote round 1968-1970 was on it (and some came even later on other albums) and he has been given so much respect and sympathy.

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We're all Apple Scruffs

jtal909

Jan 22, 2001, 02:00 PM

Like I posted somewhere else, I read a little article that said George thinks his post Beatles songs were the best of them all. ATMP was a great record.

Lucy

Jan 22, 2001, 02:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by FPSHOT:
Some Down Under gossip magazine I assume.

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It must be. My NZ Womans Day said the exact same thing!

Jan 22, 2001, 03:08 PM

I assume you and I are the only members on this forum from the Oceania region then.

darkhorse

Jan 22, 2001, 04:21 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jtal909:
Don't start or they'll get him in court again!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Come on, I'm just joking! Anyway, "All Things Must Pass" must be the best solo album made by any of The Beatles. But George has also complaint about the constant absence of a songwriting partner in his compositions. That's why some of his bridges were completed by people like John ("Taxman", "Piggies"), Derek Taylor ("you know that what you eat you are" on "Savoy Truffle") or even his mother! But that doesn't say anything about his quality as a songwriter: I think he's great. Unless I'm not going to do a lawsuit against him! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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"All the world is birthday cake,
so take a piece, but not too much"

jtal909

Jan 22, 2001, 05:31 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by darkhorse:
Originally posted by jtal909:
Don't start or they'll get him in court again!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Come on, I'm just joking!

So was I.

Litl Lennon

Jan 23, 2001, 01:48 PM

I like that catchy guitar phrase in the middle of the song, it's a fab song, piggies is.

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Lucy

Jan 23, 2001, 02:51 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Nowhere Man:
I assume you and I are the only members on this forum from the Oceania region then.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe it is that way, yes!

FPSHOT

Jan 23, 2001, 10:10 PM

About the bridges being completed and mom adding some info to lyrics ;

You are right about this, but you know that all songwriters - like Paul and John - use a source or a remark or article (think about Sgt. Pepper which is full of it.)

Indeed there are only a few Harrison/Len or Mac songs.

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We're all Apple Scruffs

[This message has been edited by FPSHOT (edited January 23, 2001 at 11:11 PM).]

darkhorse

Jan 24, 2001, 05:26 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by FPSHOT:
you know that all songwriters - like Paul and John - use a source or a remark or article (think about Sgt. Pepper which is full of it.)

Indeed there are only a few Harrison/Len or Mac songs.

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And I'm sure there are also Lennon/Harrison or McCartney/Harrison songs (I can think about "We Can Work It Out", where George came up with the idea of converting the bridge into a waltz or "Got To Get You Into My Life", where George and John added lyrics into Paul's original song). Ringo also wrote with George without officialy giving credit to him ("It Don't Come Easy", "Back Off Bogaloo") and some even say that Sir George Martin should have composer credits in Beatle tracks.

So all I am saying is that the composer credits are a whole other point to comment. And they shouldn't be taken so seriously.

And of course, every composer MUST use a source to write his songs. George, John and Paul do, as everybody else. That doesn't make them better or worse songwriters. They are the best for what they did, whichever way they did it.

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"All the world is birthday cake,
so take a piece, but not too much"

Lucy

Jan 24, 2001, 07:44 PM

You know, darkhorse, I used to have the very same signiture as you. That line always makes me smile. That would have to be one of my all-time favourites http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

darkhorse

Jan 25, 2001, 04:43 PM

Didn't mean to copy you, Lucy (In The Sky With Diamonds?). That's one of my all-time favorite lines too. It says it all, you know...

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"All the world is birthday cake,
so take a piece, but not too much"

Jan 25, 2001, 05:23 PM

Must be a bugger signing cheques.

darkhorse

Jan 26, 2001, 04:59 PM

Good one. I haven't thought about that.

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"All the world is birthday cake,
so take a piece, but not too much"

Lucy

Jan 26, 2001, 06:01 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by darkhorse:
...Lucy (In The Sky With Diamonds?)....

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Believe it or not darkhorse, it is actually my real name (not the bit about the diamonds) http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

Jan 27, 2001, 02:24 PM

Come on Lucy, no need to be embarrassed about your surname. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

Lucy

Jan 27, 2001, 03:43 PM

Okay NM, I admit it: You have finally made me laugh http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

darkhorse

Jan 27, 2001, 04:36 PM

He's the funny guy here. He's Ringo's incarnation! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

And Lucy In-The-Sky-With-Diamonds would be a lovely name to a child. I'll think about it when I have a baby. (I guess children at school would make fun of a kid called Mr.Kite or Sir Frankie Crisp!) http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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"All the world is birthday cake,
so take a piece, but not too much"

Jan 27, 2001, 10:45 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by darkhorse:
And Lucy In-The-Sky-With-Diamonds would be a lovely name to a child. I'll think about it when I have a baby.

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I'm hoping your future wife will be the one to have the baby... unless there's something you're not telling us? http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

darkhorse

Jan 28, 2001, 12:57 PM

No. I'm a man. And I'm hoping to have a wife someday. And to learn how to speak and write in english correctly.

(That's about the fourth time on this forum that you've made me laugh. Congratulations. I'm not used to laugh that much.)

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"All the world is birthday cake,
so take a piece, but not too much"

FPSHOT

Jan 29, 2001, 03:22 PM

DarkHorse, being referred to as Sir Frankie Crisp requires some traditional English like

Find me where ye echo lays
Lose ye bodies in the maze

Ye long walks of Coole and Shades
Through ye woode, here may ye rest awhile

or just
Don't keep off the grass.

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We're all Apple Scruffs

iFrog

Jan 29, 2001, 07:08 PM

I love all little piggies. Of course they are all so irresistible and cute. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/tongue.gif
http://www.users.drak.net/dragonfly99/tempimages/babesface.gif

[This message has been edited by iFrog (edited January 30, 2001 at 10:07 AM).]

darkhorse

Jan 30, 2001, 05:23 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by FPSHOT:
DarkHorse, being referred to as Sir Frankie Crisp requires some traditional <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

TRADITIONAL ENGLISH? Come on, I don't even know how to speak regular English! I'm just going to be careful about speaking seriously in this forum, and forget about joking. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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"All the world is birthday cake,
so take a piece, but not too much"

Jan 31, 2001, 08:42 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by iFrog:
Of course they are all so irresistible and cute.
http://www.users.drak.net/dragonfly99/tempimages/babesface.gif
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You're right. I can never resist the smell of fresh bacon in the morning. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

Lucy

Jan 31, 2001, 11:25 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Nowhere Man:
You're right. I can never resist the smell of fresh bacon in the morning. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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Hmmmmm. This vegetarian isn't smiling http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

FPSHOT

Feb 01, 2001, 07:20 AM

Darkhorse

relax, it only referred to SFC.

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iFrog

Feb 01, 2001, 12:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Lucy:
Hmmmmm. This vegetarian isn't smiling http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me neither. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/cry.gif

darkhorse

Feb 01, 2001, 04:12 PM

FPSHOT

You're not always kind when you write http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif
But I respect you, as you always have something interesting to say.
After all, "we're all Apple Scruffs", as you said once (I loved THAT signature you had).

And I'm totally relaxed.

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"All the world is birthday cake,
so take a piece, but not too much"

FPSHOT

Feb 01, 2001, 08:20 PM

Well, impo it is more a matter of al little teasing - or maybe even that is the wrong word - to keep some fresh, or just being misunderstood.

Hurting is not my intention and/or style. I am not the only one here though with that experience. A pity.

I tend to change my signature from time to time and will pick up Apple Scruffs again.

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Glen V

Feb 02, 2001, 04:01 PM

Is somebody picking on my buddy FPSHOT or our we floating on Cloud Nine..?

I must go to Kashmir..!

GV

darkhorse

Feb 02, 2001, 05:07 PM

It's alright, FPSHOT. Maybe I didn't understand your words. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif But I'll say it again: I respect you because you always have something interesting to say, specially about OUR favorite Beatle George.

And maybe I had had a bad day when I posted that message. Sorry if it "caused you any pain". I didn't feel hurt at all, I just didn't understand.

So let's get into peace, because:
"isn't it a pity
isn't it a shame
how we break eachother's hearts
and cause eachother pain? (...)"

Sorry FPSHOT and Glen V for starting a fight I didn't mean to start.

Peace and love.

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"I met a young girl and she gave me a rainbow" (Dylan)

FPSHOT

Feb 02, 2001, 08:21 PM

Everyone has choice
When to or not to raise their voices
It's you that decides.

Darkhorse, an FPSHOT and a Dark Horse can't argue and don't wanna, because they are from the same source. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

Let's get back to the Beatles.

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We're all Apple Scruffs.

darkhorse

Feb 03, 2001, 10:53 AM

Let's get back to them! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

Thank you for understanding! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

You know, just like me, that we're all one:

"There'll come a time when most of us return here...
Brought back by our desire to be
A perfect entity (...)"

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"I met a young girl and she gave me a rainbow" (Dylan)

iFrog

Feb 08, 2001, 02:33 PM

Well then let's get on back to what we all know and love... The Beatles. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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Pie Man

Feb 19, 2001, 10:29 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by FPSHOT:
For those who have not read I Me Mine, this is George's comment.

It was a social comment. He was stuck for one line in the middle part until his mother came up with the line

'what they need is damn good wacking'.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My grandad deliverd bread to George Harrison's mum!!! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif He got some cool stuff off here, early photo's and stuff but he threw them out, damn http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/frown.gif

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Feb 19, 2001, 02:15 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by iFrog:

http://www.users.drak.net/dragonfly99/tempimages/M_Goliathus5.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's the scariest looking thing I've ever seen! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/shocked.gif

Well, apart from my sister in the mornings.

[This message has been edited by Nowhere Man (edited February 19, 2001 at 03:16 PM).]