Beatle Lyrics for Pain and Pleasure [Archive]

Harbidge

Dec 10, 2000, 10:49 AM

Wanna start with Revolution 9?

Actually, this song's extremely deep and way ahead of it's time. I personally don't mind it. Apparently, if you listen to it backwards (there's an MP3 of Rev 9 backwards here - http://www.kingtet.com/number9/number9.mp3 )

There are all kinds of sounds that you can't hear when playing it forwards, like car crashes, sirens, and Paul screaming, 'Get me out!, Get me out!'

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iFrog

Dec 10, 2000, 02:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Harbidge:
Wanna start with Revolution 9?
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There are all kinds of sounds that you can't hear when playing it forwards, like car crashes, sirens, and Paul screaming, 'Get me out!, Get me out!'
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes and i haven't heard the song in a while. Seems to me it starts out with George Martin talking and ends with the sounds of the crowd shouting at a football game or something. But i can't really identify a refrain or lyric or even a chorus. There are also a lot of phrase and nonsensical words thrown in there, but some are deep. Like John i believe saying "As time goes by you get a little bit older and a little bit slower." Proof positive that Lennon wasn't one to beat around the bush when it came to making a statement.
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iFrog

Dec 16, 2000, 10:02 AM

Here are the lyrics to I'm Only Sleeping. I love that leisurely sleepy melody. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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<LI>When I wake up early in the morning,
Lift my head, I'm still yawning
When I'm in the middle of a dream
Stay in bed, float up stream
Please don't wake me, no don't shake me
Leave me where I am I'm only sleeping
<LI>Everybody seems to think I'm lazy
I don't mind, I think they're crazy
Running everywhere at such a speed
Till they find, there's no need
Please don't spoil my day
I'm miles away And after all I'm only sleeping
<LI>Keeping an eye on the world going by my window
Taking my time
Lying there and staring at the ceiling
Waiting for a sleepy feeling
Please don't spoil my day I'm miles away
And after all I'm only sleeping
<LI>Keeping an eye on the world going by my window
Taking my time
When I wake up early in the morning,
Lift my head, I'm still yawning
When I'm in the middle of a dream
Stay in bed, float up stream
Please don't wake me, no don't shake me
Leave me where I am
I'm only sleeping
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Tim

Dec 16, 2000, 10:14 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Harbidge:
Wanna start with Revolution 9?
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For a detailed anaylisis of R9 go here:
http://www.beathoven.com

This is a good site!

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iFrog

Jan 25, 2002, 07:15 PM

Kudos for the link. Where did everybody go?

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Amalthea

Jan 26, 2002, 03:40 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Harbidge:
way ahead of it's time/number9.mp3<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just want to say that I read on a Beatles book that Paul was experimenting with street and any kind of sounds way before than John... and he was pretty 'angry' when John made the song, since he felt like he stole him the idea.

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ChrisG134

Jan 26, 2002, 07:08 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By Amalthea:
I just want to say that I read on a Beatles book that Paul was experimenting with street and any kind of sounds way before than John... and he was pretty 'angry' when John made the song, since he felt like he stole him the idea.
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You snooze you lose, I guess.

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Harbidge

Jan 26, 2002, 07:44 AM

I believe the transcript of the beginning dialogue between George Martin and a Tape Engineer goes:

E:I would have got you a bottle of claret if I had known George, I'm sorry. Do you forgivem me?

G:Yes

E:Bit**.

It's much louder and clearer on the mono version of the song.

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Cecilia

Jan 26, 2002, 10:39 AM

I would like to say that Revolution 9 is not a song...it's a musical mounting created by John and Yoko, although is was Paul who began with all the experiment stuff (like Carola said). Paul played the piano in the begining of the song...Paul, George, Ringo and George Martin wanted to eliminate this mounting of the White Album...specially Paul.

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Tim

Jan 26, 2002, 07:23 PM

The dialogue is between George Martin and Apple assistant Alistar Taylor.

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swelldame

Jan 27, 2002, 12:08 PM

ok everyone, just to say right off the bat i am a new beatlefan so chances are i will stick my foot in my mouth quite often, but actually I had a question about the song "Dig a Pony":

in it john sings "I roll a stoney-- well you can imitate everyone you know." Now, me being the kinda gal who reads into things WAY too much, can one of you swell gurus out there tell me if that line is by any chance a jab at the Rolling Stones? Maybe accusing them of imitating or somethin like that? Like I said, I'm just going off on a tangent here.

Thanks!
~Marci

p.s. oh you guys, i am SO thrilled! i just got a check in the mail yesterday which means I can now afford to buy three more beatles albums!!! (a student budget isn't a pretty thing) I have let it be, sgt pepper and rubber soul. . . which 3 should be next????

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Cecilia

Jan 27, 2002, 01:15 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By swelldame:
p.s. oh you guys, i am SO thrilled! i just got a check in the mail yesterday which means I can now afford to buy three more beatles albums!!! (a student budget isn't a pretty thing) I have let it be, sgt pepper and rubber soul. . . which 3 should be next????

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You should buy Revolver ( a great album!! ), Help! And Abbey road...in my opinion http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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iFrog

Jan 27, 2002, 03:40 PM

i dunno. John Lennon was a get in your bloody face kind of guy, if i'm reading the literature right.

John drew alot of lines in the sand with his music and in his lyrical treatments; and he invariably stuck to those limits. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/hammer2.gif

http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/monkey.gif But what you bring up is a definite possibility. Something to think about for sure.

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biglou114

Jan 27, 2002, 03:44 PM

Are you talking about US or UK album

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darkhorse

Jan 27, 2002, 04:16 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By iFrog:
Is Revolution #9:
1)a "John & Yoko" song only, and
2)is it even a song to begin with?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Oh my God, it is not... I think. 4000 of my posts are about that. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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Cecilia

Jan 27, 2002, 04:36 PM

Of course not! I've already said that it's a musical mounting...a SONG it's where some people are singing.

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darkhorse

Jan 27, 2002, 04:56 PM

Do not say that, they'll say some things against it... Just say it's not a song and everybody will understand.

That thing belongs to Unfinished Music and not the White Album, period.

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iFrog

Jan 27, 2002, 05:44 PM

Why do you say it's not a song? After all it is on the white album. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/angry3.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/angel5.gif

And what pray tell is a musical mounting? http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/angry5.gif

i say it's a song. But then again everything is relative. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/dance.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/alien3.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/dance.gif

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bearkat77

Jan 27, 2002, 07:13 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By swelldame:
I have let it be, sgt pepper and rubber soul. . . which 3 should be next????<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can't go wrong with whichever Beatle albums you get. Personally, I'd say go for Abbey Road, Revolver and The Beatles, aka the "White Album".

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iFrog

Jan 27, 2002, 11:58 PM

Ahhh. Finally we reach philosophical critical mass here. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/lightbulb.gif

Is Revolution #9:
1)a "John & Yoko" song only, and
2)is it even a song to begin with?

i say the influences between such vital and vibrant forces such as s those that you have in the early Beatles probably rubbed off on one another. i for one find it inexplicably ludicrous to label most of their (early) songs either purely Lennon or purely run-around McCartney.

It's a song, it's a musical composition, it's a sonic experiment, still one of a kind to this day, inasmuch as there are musical passages in the track, albeit most are indeed backwards masked as are most of the voices that are indeed heard. But to be sure this single track defies adequate description and coherent analysis. Perhaps this 'defiance' was the true intent of this track... and nothing more. What "you" see into this track is what "you" see and nothing more.

At the time, and i'm sure it's still true today, it was the most stand out track on the entire double set. i would go so far as to say that it is the centerpiece for one of their greatest musical achievements.

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darkhorse

Jan 28, 2002, 01:30 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By iFrog:
Why do you say it's not a song? After all it is on the white album. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/angry3.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/angel5.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>So what? It is still not a song. Show me the chord progressions, the musical structure, the instrumental arrangements... the "melody". It's not a song. Maybe if you're into avant guarde you may think it is, but to me, an average person with a tiny little brain, a thing like that is everything but a song.

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C-Moon

Jan 28, 2002, 02:05 PM

one could argue that it's an exercise in technical but random creation, a creatively engineered piece.

But one could also argue that I could record rush hour traffic, the weather forcast, and someone snoring, than cut up the tape and have my 8 year old niece tape it together again and get a comparable result.
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It's obviously not one of my favorite compositions.

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iFrog

Jan 28, 2002, 03:44 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR> Show me the chord progressions, the musical structure, the instrumental arrangements... the "melody".<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI> musical structure

It has indeed an underlying structure, consisting of random human voices and lots of backward masked musical notes. How do you define "musical structure?" Seems pretty much relative terminology to me. Sure it appears more or less random to the naked ear, but maybe that's the intent here.

And there are tens of thousands of songs out there that do indeed adhere to some sort of compositional standard of excellence or another, but are just pure crap. You can't deny it. Like i said before everything is relative.

<LI>instrumental arrangements

There are instruments in there, sure enough backwards masked but they are there just the same. The continuity is much more evident when played backwards i presume.

<LI>the melody

Once again a relative term tuned to your liking. The answer i would suppose would be to seek out and discover a truly montonic and rigid definition for what actually makes a melody or a melodic structure. Unfortunately there is no such definition. The song is indeed defined by it's apparent randomness when played forward, and has many big surprises to be found when played backwards.

Don't even tell me that Revolution #9 isn't a one of a kind recording, clever, earth-shattering, or truly innovative. n fact that compostion is guilty on all those counts.

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darkhorse

Jan 28, 2002, 04:33 PM

Nice arguments, I still don't think it's a song. It's all relative I guess.

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peaceflame

Jan 28, 2002, 04:47 PM

OF course its a soooonnnngggg maaaaaaannn *waves flowers in the air* every sound is a song maaaaaaan....every bird chirping, every baby laughing...its all a beautiful groooovy far out MELODY maaaannn!!!!!

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iFrog

Jan 28, 2002, 04:52 PM

http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/angry2.gif Errr, close enough. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/angry2.gif

http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/angry6.gif

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Cecilia

Jan 28, 2002, 05:09 PM

I still thing that it's not a song

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darkhorse

Jan 28, 2002, 05:12 PM

And I tend to agree in lots of things with the lady here. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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iFrog

Jan 28, 2002, 06:44 PM

http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/alien1.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/alien3.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/alien4.gif
http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/barf4.gif
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iFrog

Jan 28, 2002, 06:46 PM

http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/afraid1.gif
http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/afraid2.gif
http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/afraid3.gif
?

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bearkat77

Jan 28, 2002, 08:06 PM

Let's let this part of the discussion end here before things get a little hot under the collar. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about "Revolution 9", that is a given. It appears on a Beatles album, also a given. The only thing to add to this discussion now is whether or not I should close this topic.

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Cecilia

Jan 29, 2002, 07:38 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By darkhorse:
And I tend to agree in lots of things with the lady here. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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Me too http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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darkhorse

Jan 29, 2002, 08:00 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By bearkat77:
The only thing to add to this discussion now is whether or not I should close this topic.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>When people start posting just smilies as replies, I think it's about time.

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C-Moon

Jan 29, 2002, 02:29 PM

shall we pick another song?

the MAJORITY of us are playing together nicely.

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darkhorse

Jan 29, 2002, 05:04 PM

I suggest we open another topic... which starts clean and on which we all can control our emotions... and our opinions. Bearkat, just a suggestion.

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iFrog

Jan 29, 2002, 07:03 PM

What's wrong BearKat? That was mostly a double post, i just picked the "wrong" smileys. Why would that necessitate the closing of this thread? Please clue me in because i am totally in the dark. i mean this in all sincerity. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/angel4.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/angry1.gif

i, being a brusker (read : amateur street musician) also agree that Revolution #9 is not a song that you can sing on the street corner or with the choir at your local church. So it isn't a song in that sense of the word. Geez. Lighten up already!! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/afraid2.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By C-Moon:
shall we pick another song?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure why not. i was going to make this suggestion also. How about the Spanish translation of Don't Bother Me?

i used to have a copy of it scratched on a piece of paper many years ago. i have since lost it. Maybe Darkhorse could help us with a modern translation. i believe that it the title translates as No Me Molesta.

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bearkat77

Jan 29, 2002, 09:30 PM

Let's move on with something else, shall we?

iFrog, I'm not degrading your post nor darkhorse's. I've witnessed this type of discussion too many times in my life and it only leads nowhere, man. Pick up on another song and open a topic on it.

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Cecilia

Jan 30, 2002, 07:48 AM

I agree...the Revolution 9 discussion will take nowhere.

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iFrog

Jan 30, 2002, 10:26 AM

Thinking... http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/lips1.gif

http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/rolling1.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/rolling2.gif
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beatle_g girl

Jan 30, 2002, 10:40 PM

carry on with the Spanish version of Don't Bother Me...

Where'd you hear it? It actually never occurred to me that I could purchase any Beatle songs in espanol.

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darkhorse

Jan 31, 2002, 06:00 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By iFrog:
How about the Spanish translation of Don't Bother Me?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Would you care to expand a little more about that?

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beatle_g girl

Jan 31, 2002, 07:49 PM

Less is more

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iFrog

Feb 04, 2002, 12:01 PM

It appears that there is no translation available.

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iFrog

Feb 04, 2002, 07:36 PM

Boy this is going to be very tricky. As i am definitely at a tremendous disadvantage this might take awhile, but that won't stop me for a second and i'll give it my best shot.

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No Me Molesta.

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darkhorse

Feb 05, 2002, 07:32 AM

No Me Molestes

Desde que ella se fue, no quiero que nadie me hable
No es lo mismo, pero es mi culpa y es fácil de ver
Así que vete, déjame solo y no me molestes

No puedo creer que ella me dejara solo
Simplemente no es correcto que esté solo todas las noches
Así que vete, déjame solo y no me molestes

Sé que nunca seré el mismo
Si no logro tenerla de vuelta
Porque sé que ella siempre será
La única chica de mi vida

Pero mientras esté aquí, no te acerques, mantente alejado
Si ella regresa, te lo haré saber, hasta ese día,
Por favor vete, déjame solo y no me molestes

Are you happy now? Because I still don't understand the question

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Cecilia

Feb 05, 2002, 09:32 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By iFrog:
No Me Molesta.

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That would be : "It doesn't bother me"

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iFrog

Feb 05, 2002, 06:02 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>Quote:<HR>Originally Posted By darkhorse:
Are you happy now? Because I still don't understand the question
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Why thank you Darkhorse. i happened to spy upon the lyrics several years ago and i noticed how beautiful they looked.

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