Butcher Cover

[FPSHOT]

You will find various pictures from the Butcher picture session and various other rare material on
http://www.rarebeatles.com/mainmenu.htm

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I don't see too much difference between Rubber Soul and Revolver. To me they could be Volume One and Volume Two - George in The Book.

[Pie Man]

Anyone got a picture of the butcher cover and/or the other cover off yesterday....and today? I need a picture of them for my site but I can't find one anywhere! If someone has a picture could you please e-mail it to me?

cheers http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif

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[Harbidge]

They're on my site. You can find them at...
http://pid.aboveme.com

Then go to Beatles Album Clues

Then they're on the American album sections. Click on the appropite link.

Hope this helps.

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[Pie Man]

thank's i'm very happy now, look: http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif

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[Harbidge]

It's one of my ambitions in life to own a Butcher cover, and it's getting close to that dream. I'll explain if/when I get it.

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[Pie Man]

I want one too. But I dont think I'll ever find one within my price-range!

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[bearkat77]

One day, I'll be able to say; "I own a Butcher cover!" Until then, I'll just have to wait it out and find one in reasonably good condition and a fair price.

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[Harbidge]

I found one on eBay recently on eBay for $49.99 which was in alright condition I suppose. I put a proxy bid on for $70.00. All was alright when there was 5 minutes to go. I had a leson to go to so I stopped there. Some git outbid me 6 seconds before the auction ended. I'm very cross and annoyed. I might even email him a nasty letter.

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[Jerry]

It was probably the seller outbidding you because the bidding didn't go high enough. That's what sucks about internet auctions.
I did find a butcher cover a few years ago very cheap, and I bought it just to complete my collection. It's in terrible condition. It looks like a baby ripped off the new cover. But hey, it's a real butcher album. So until I win the lottery, I'm stuck with it.

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[FPSHOT]

Harbidge, I have samelike experience at e-bay. It's just a few people, like the seller, who wait for the right moment to hit just before closing.

It has no use to comment against it. That's the way it goes. Make sure you are there at closing time or have someone else do it for you.

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In the band we were normal, and the rest of the world was crazy - George in The Book about the AHDNight period.

[Pie Man]

I always try bidding £1.00 at ebay for any Beatles things. I havent got anything yet but maby I'll get lucky some day!

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[Harbidge]

It'll happen one day. I've got some good stuff off of eBay for around a pound. I got an original Strawberry Fields picture sleeve for £1.50, and a copy of All You Need Is Love without the TV credit. I got it for £2.50.

Don't give up hope. Patience will reward.

Remember people, if you're worried about spending too much on a Beatles album, remember my little saying,

'It isn't spending money, it's investing money.'

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[BEATLEDORK]

i recently was looking on eBay for a butcher cover, they were all out of my 6.00 an hour burger flipping pay check price range especially since me mum makes me pay rent
"if you dont pay rent youre out of my house and i dont care if youre gonna live on the street under a cardboard box"

i love my mummyhttp://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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"im so happy cause today i found my friends in my head. im so ugly thats okay cause so are you. broken mirrors. sunday morning is everyday for all i care. im not scared.light my candles in a daze. cause i found god"--???

john lennon lives!!!
-joko ono

[Beatle Baby *14*]

That blows you have to pay rent. and y0u only get minimum wage. sucks to be ypu.

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[iFrog]

Let's all get on our knees and pray to the one and only the all-mighty ethereal Butcher Cover. Amen! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

[Harbidge]

Amen.

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[Pie Man]

i would also like to say Amen. so here goes:
Amen!

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[jtal909]

I wouldn't. Yes, the Beatles were making a statement but the picture is a little disturbing, isn't it?

[Lucy]

I guess it is sort of yuck really - all that raw meat and baby-doll parts everywhere - but I love it. They all have such fantastic expressions on their faces!

[iFrog]

Not even. It's definitely a work of art and as relevant today as when it was commissioned by Capitol Records to be the next Beatles cover. Remember also that this was the dark ages. The sixties i believe. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

[jtal909]

Yes, I remember. And I thought it was cool at the time, with their stoned out faces on the cover. I appreciate the reason for it, but it just doesn't seem quite so attractive today.
And I don't believe Capitol commissioned it. The Beatles sent it to them in response to the way Capitol was changing the song sequences around and not releasing them the way the Beatles had planned, in order to squeeze out more albums. It was then recalled and that is why it is so collectible.

[This message has been edited by jtal909 (edited December 10, 2000 at 08:22 PM).]

[jtal909]

Ifrog, would you hang that up in your house as a work of art?

[iFrog]

Absolutely i would hang it on my wall. In fact i have done so, even when i didn't understand it's true Beatle relevance or it's underlying meanings. i mean the expressions on their gargoyle like stone faces are so surrealistic yet so sincere. It's really hard for me to try to pin an absolute value on the expressions on their faces, maybe that's why i like it so. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/cool.gif

[iFrog]

Absolutely i would hang it on my wall. In fact i have done so, even when i didn't understand it's true Beatle relevance or it's underlying meanings. i mean the expressions on their gargoyle like stone faces are so surrealistic yet so sincere. It's really hard for me to try to pin an absolute value on the expressions on their faces, maybe that's why i like it so. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/cool.gif

[Tim]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jtal909:
Yes, I remember. And I thought it was cool at the time, with their stoned out faces on the cover. I appreciate the reason for it, but it just doesn't seem quite so attractive today.
And I don't believe Capitol commissioned it. The Beatles sent it to them in response to the way Capitol was changing the song sequences around and not releasing them the way the Beatles had planned, in order to squeeze out more albums. It was then recalled and that is why it is so collectible.

[This message has been edited by jtal909 (edited December 10, 2000 at 08:22 PM).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was never a protest on Capitol.
It was to be part of series of three known as Somnabulent Adventure,of which the Butch ober shot was the middle.The first part,the "birth" was to feature umbilical cords of bangers,and what the last was to feature I'm not sure.
BTW,the shot was also used on the UK Paperback Writer adverts.


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[Lucy]

But I've read an interview with Paul himself (or was it John? Maybe even George?) where he talked about the cover as protest against the butchering of their albums by Capitol.

Please tell me this umbilical cord thing is some kind of personal joke that I don't understand or know about.

[Tim]

Here is the direct quote from Robert Whitaker,the photographer:

"I wanted to do a real experiment-(but) people will jump to wrong conclusions about it being sick,
But the whole thing is based on simplicity-linking four very real people with something real.
I got George to knock some nails into John's head,and took some sausages along to get some oher pictures,dressed them up inwhite smocks as butchers,and his is the result-the use of the camera as a means of creating situations."

Here's the Paperback Writer ad:
http://members.tripod.co.uk/seltaeb/paperbackwriter.JPG


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[This message has been edited by Tim (edited December 12, 2000 at 07:04 AM).]

[This message has been edited by Tim (edited December 12, 2000 at 07:17 AM).]

[Tim]

Sorry... :0
Had a few probs,didnae see that it posted the first time,the pic links woiuldn't work so I redid for the Tripos site,the found out the extension went from ;lower(.jpg) to upper(.JPG) case.

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[bearkat77]

All taken care of, Tim. Since it didn't work, I deleted that post and kept the one that shows the pic.

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[Tim]

Thanks,Kat!
9 of the Butcher session pics are online at mich MvGeray's site http://www.rarebeatles.com

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[Harbidge]

I've done it. I've joined the elite Butcher cover club. I've successfully applied for membership and hopefully my card will be here before the new year.

(In simple terms, I've finally grasped hold of a butcher cover, and hopefully will get it before the new year.)

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[jtal909]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lucy:
[b]But I've read an interview with Paul himself (or was it John? Maybe even George?) where he talked about the cover as protest against the butchering of their albums by Capitol.

I also have read this and believe it to be true. It makes perfect sense.



[This message has been edited by jtal909 (edited December 13, 2000 at 05:54 PM).]

[Lucy]

Okay then....I will now choose to ignore the umbilical cord album cover story. That just can't be true!!!

[Tim]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lucy:
Okay then....I will now choose to ignore the umbilical cord album cover story. That just can't be true!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A pic from it is at rarebeatles.com
Also,I did post Robert Whitaker(photographer's) quote on the matter,with the PW ad.




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[Tim]

Congrats,Harb!

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[Lucy]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tim:
Here is the direct quote from Robert Whitaker,the photographer:

"I wanted to do a real experiment-(but) people will jump to wrong conclusions about it being sick,
But the whole thing is based on simplicity-linking four very real people with something real.
I got George to knock some nails into John's head,and took some sausages along to get some oher pictures,dressed them up inwhite smocks as butchers,and his is the result-the use of the camera as a means of creating situations."

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Yes Tim I had read this quote but still I found no direct reference to umbilical cords. I still refuse to believe it. Maybe I should do some research on the topic. Maybe not. Call me narrow-minded but I like the other story much more.

[Pie Man]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Harbidge:
I've done it. I've joined the elite Butcher cover club. I've successfully applied for membership and hopefully my card will be here before the new year.

(In simple terms, I've finally grasped hold of a butcher cover, and hopefully will get it before the new year.)

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where'd you get it harb. I want one


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[Harbidge]

I bought it from eBay. I've included a picture below. It looks a bit grotty because, a)The camera used wasn't very good, and b)it's only been half peeled. Do you think I should leave it as it is, or peel the rest off?

http://members.aol.com/goboyno3/butcherlp.jpg

I know that Nat has a 2nd state butcher, and Jerry has a 3rd state. Does anyone else have a butcher cover?

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[Tim]

A 7-inch Top Gear bootleg and a fake http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/frown.gif.


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[Harbidge]

A fake? Is that one of the Japanese ones that were printed a few years back? They're quite rare now.

I've never heard of this 7" one you described.

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[Pie Man]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Harbidge:
I bought it from eBay. I've included a picture below. It looks a bit grotty because, a)The camera used wasn't very good, and b)it's only been half peeled.
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how mutch was it?


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[Harbidge]

It cost me $91. It may seem a lot, but it's something I've always wanted, and the parents agreed to pay up to $100 (£65) for it. Luckily, I wasn't outbid, and I'll hopefully be getting it before the new year.

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[Tim]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Harbidge:
A fake? Is that one of the Japanese ones that were printed a few years back? They're quite rare now.

I've never heard of this 7" one you described.

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The fake is one I found in the early 80s from a Brooklyn mail order store whp sold both LPs and licks of the Butcher Cover.
$25 for an LP $10 for a slick twas...
The 7" boot is a yellow label Capitol "promo" featuring a July 1964 Saturday Club/Top Of The Pops BBC performance.The pic is a flipped outtake on 1 side,with the purple trunk cover on the back.


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[Harbidge]

Those EP's are worth quite a bit of money. I've seen them go on eBay for around $90. Is yours numbered?

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[Tim]

Not that i can find,put away,will get it out to check..

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