Marsha Albert was NOT the first to get a beatles record played onair !

[Sgt.Salt]

Contrary to what the Fab 40 committee wants you to believe...........Marsha Albert was NOT the first to get a Beatles record played "onair " here in the United States . {read this article } http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/mccorp/youvereallygot.html
That honor goes to Marcia Raubach .Who was a DJ at WFRX-AM in frankfurt,illinois . The Record she played was "From me to you ". And it was played "onair " in june of 1963 ! George Harrison was actually here , on a "pre- sullivan show "visit to benton Illinois, with his brother peter,to visit hi sister Louise. So "a Beatle " , was actually here in AMERICA, in september of 1963 . George had sent his sister "LOU " , An advance copy of "From me to you " , to try and get airplay here in the states . AND SHE DID ! Let history be corrected on this matter !

[lennon4]

Thanks for the clarification! images/icons/smile.gif

As far as the 40 Committee goes...they're playing up the Albert story because that's the person that supposedly got Beatlemania going. DJs and listeners paid attention once she requested the music, and things spiraled from there. Let's face it...not too many people were paying attention when Louise got the song to play on-air.

-lennon4

[Sgt.Salt]

You see ..........That's NOT the point ! They are saying that Marsha Albert, was THE FIRST , to get ANY beatles record played "on-air ", here in The United States ! That..........is a LIE ! Whether or not 100 people, or 10,000 people heard the broadcast, is inmateriel ! The TRUTH IS , is that Louise , GOT a legitimate DJ , at a Legitimate radio station, to play a beatles record ............MONTHS before the Marsha Albert claim ! Propagating historical falsehoods, does NOTHING , to correct past wrongs ! Marsha ALberts, DID do ALOT to promote the Beatles to a LARGE listener audience . But she DOES NOT DESERVE THE TITLE, of being THE FIRST , to get a Beatles record played here . The facts, prove her claim false !

[ Jan 30, 2004, 07:17 AM: Message Edited By: Sgt.Salt ]

[Rellevart]

Originally Posted By Sgt.Salt:
But she DOES NOT DESERVE THE TITLE, of being THE FIRST , to get a Beatles record played here . The facts, prove her claim false !<font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">Hey Sarge, the funniest part of this whole thing is that Ms. Albert doesn't want to have anything to do with all this crap and seems annoyed to have even been "found" in the first place!

Don't take any of this so seriously - it's all just hype in one way or another and not really worth getting so upset about. images/icons/smile.gif

[Sgt.Salt]

I'm not upset about it really . I just HATE when historical falsehoods are long propagated and not corrected . I know Marsha Albert could care less about her place in Beatles history . But that doesn't change the facts ! Whenever historic facts are proven to be wrong, they need to be corrected . Otherwise.........future students of history, are being taught flawed history . They/ we..........all deserve better than that . All of us here, i assume, CARE about the Truth when it comes to Beatles history and lore . We acknowledge the success's, and flaws, in The Beatles . We try to dispell all falsehoods about them, and are always looking for "The Truth ", in the GREY areas that surround many Beatles stories . The Marcia Raubach story , is all about TRUTH , and understanding what "really " happened !

[lennon4]

Originally Posted By Sgt.Salt:
I just HATE when historical falsehoods are long propagated and not corrected.<font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">Hmmm....like that whole 'Yoko broke up the Beatles' thing, huh? Yeah.

LOL!!! If my post irritated you so much, I'm sorry...take a chill pill. I was simply saying that the reason the committee was interested in Albert was because of what the committee is building up: the 40th anniversary of the Beatles coming to America. No, they shouldn't give out false information, but I'm sure if Louise had sparked Beatlemania, then they'd want her instead of Albert. It's not a big deal.

-lennon4

[ Jan 30, 2004, 10:46 AM: Message Edited By: lennon4 ]

[Sgt.Salt]

LOL!!! If my post irritated you so much, I'm sorry...take a chill pill. <font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">Now that's funny !While at the same time, sounding kinda "condescending" .
It's not you that has me "irritated " . It's the way we, as a people, respond to correcting historical untruths ! Most people, will just let things slide by. Even tho they KNOW, that the other person is wrong in his/her facts ! Others, like myself , will not . I know this topic is not such a BIG deal, in the overall scheme of things . Yet , still , it means alot, to those of us that know the real truth on this subject!
Here is a prime example .

The Battle of the Alamo in 1836 Texas . History books, to this day, reflect the age old belief, that Davy crockett went to his death "guns a blazing " . And that James Bowie, killed a dozen mexican soldiers from his deathbed, before he was killed ! Recent historical research, has dis-proved BOTH of these historical falacies ! Yet, to this day, mainly in Texas, these facts fall on deaf ears ! The old, textbook related stories, still are related as gospel, by the people that Hold these Texas heros in high regard . The new facts about their deaths, DO NOTHING to diminsh what those folks did at the alamo . It just merely,"clarify's ", one part of the overall story !
That, is what this Marcia Raubach story does, for the Beatles ! It merely "clarify's", one small aspect, of the story at large ! An organization, such as The Fab 40 committee. Should strive for the highest levels of truth and fact. When they put forth information out for public consumption . I will give them the benefit of the doubt here tho . Perhaps they did not even know about the Marcia Raubach connection. But believe me, they do now.

[beatlebangs1964]

Sarge,

George Harrison visited his sister and her family in Benton Illinois in AUGUST of 1963. And yeah, you are right about Marcia Raubach. She interviewed George and she unfortunately did not have their interview taped. I love the story about George's first trip to the USA in Before He Was Fab. I love the book and think it is a fun book at that. The author was at the Fest in Chicago and he was very interesting indeed.

L4 was right - when George was visiting his sister in Benton and traveling to the nearby communities, the US, for the most part was not familiar with the Fabs and the air play he got in Illinois was rather limited and self-contained to that specific area.

Rell is right; Ms. Albert sounds as if she is seeking privacy. In any event, the good thing is that the world was made aware of the world's number one band, THE BEATLES! In retrospect, does it really matter who got the ball rolling, so long as it got rolled? Yeah, it's good to know the story behind it, but in fairness, it's also good to respect the feelings of the people involved.

Sarge, inaccuracies will be reported from time to time. That's part of life. Over at the Palace, somebody linked to an article about George that was written fairly recently. That article was RIFE with inaccuracies:

1) George was the youngest of 3 children (which we know is incorrect)

2) Louise and Harold Sr. were described as "strict Roman Catholics" when we know Louise was Catholic and Harold Sr. was "Anglican, or he wasn't really anything [religion] at all," as George himself would later say.

There were others, but these two just JUMPED out at you. Sarge, if you let these kinds of things have you tearing out your hair, how can you do your cool Beatle hair toss? Inconsistencies and errors will be written, but at least we, the fans know better.

As for that chill pill - I recommend you listen to some soothing Beatle ballads and soon you might be singing "I Feel Fine" and "Good Day Sunshine." images/icons/smile.gif

[Norwegian_Wood]

I don't think "Beatlemania" came close to starting in June, 1963 in the US. In fact, the guys released singles after this date in the US that flopped. As someone else stated, it was this other person who came closer to starting Beatlemania. Althought I think it is absurd to suggest that one person getting a song played onair can truely start anything all by themselves. I don't think it is even a true inaccuracy and certaily a silly thing to get upset about even if it were. The lady they were seeking out sure isn't the one trying to get that title to begin with.

[Sgt.Salt]

Did you even understand what i wrote ?
I'm not saying "WHO" actually started Beatlemania ! I'm taking issue with The Fab 40 committee's false fact, that Marsha Albert was "The First person " to get ANY Beatles record played "on-air " here in America . Where do you get that this has anything to do with WHO actually got Beatlemania itself started ! Please read the topic ! This post was simply about correcting a FALSE FACT ! Of course Beatlemania did not start in June of 1963 ! I didn't say it did ! I'm just stating the fact that Marcia Raubach, should be given credit, where credit is due . She was "The First DJ " ,at ANY legitimate radio station here in America, to Play a BEATLES record live, on-air ! period ! She did not start Beatlemania by that act alone of course . That WAS NOT, what i said ! Please re-read my posts before you offer up a silly response .

[Norwegian_Wood]

Originally Posted By Sgt.Salt:
Did you even understand what i wrote ?
I'm not saying "WHO" actually started Beatlemania ! I'm taking issue with The Fab 40 committee's false fact, that Marsha Albert was "The First person " to get ANY Beatles record played "on-air " here in America . Where do you get that this has anything to do with WHO actually got Beatlemania itself started ! Please read the topic ! This post was simply about correcting a FALSE FACT ! Of course Beatlemania did not start in June of 1963 ! I didn't say it did ! I'm just stating the fact that Marcia Raubach, should be given credit, where credit is due . She was "The First DJ " ,at ANY legitimate radio station here in America, to Play a BEATLES record live, on-air ! period ! She did not start Beatlemania by that act alone of course . That WAS NOT, what i said ! Please re-read my posts before you offer up a silly response .<font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">Maybe you should re-read the article about the search for Marsha Albert. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=001608

Where in that article does it say anything relating to it being the first time any Beatle song was played on the radio? It doesn't claim she was the first person to get any Beatle song played on the radio in the US, she just wrote a letter about I Want to Hold Your Hand to a DJ who was responsible for getting the ball rolling as far as radio airplay goes.

[Sgt.Salt]

Actually, the copy has been changed from what it originally said . I wrote to one of the folks on the committee, and told them of their "mis-wording " . They changed their original copy !

Anyway. This matter is but small potatoes, in the overall scheme of Beatleworld ! So i will not post here on this topic again ! Consider it locked ! And let's enjoy the week !

[ Feb 02, 2004, 07:51 PM: Message Edited By: Sgt.Salt ]

[HariScruff_00]

-Outside of the *they said who said* argument-
but still sorta on topic...

Just saw a bit on CBS today and they did an interview with author Bruce Spizer. The interviewer pointed out in the book that a station he used to work for (according to Spizer's book) actually played a Beatles song "a year before they were on Ed Sullivan". So I had to try to find something on this so I went to Spizer's website.

Check out this sample page for his new book:
http://thebeatlesarecoming.com/samples3.html

The first known radio play may very well have been in Illinois but it was before even June 1963- it got radio play as early as February of that year ("a year before Ed Sullivan" so he wasn't BSing images/icons/wink.gif ).

At the bottom it reads (in case you don't want to click on the link and read for yourself images/icons/tongue.gif ) that Please Please Me actually charted at #35 on the WLS Chicago radio play by March. That's too bad IMO! for a group with ZERO advertizing and song going on its own steam.

ALSO, it says just after that: "The #9 song on the chart was Jan & Dean's "Linda", which was a #1 hit for Buddy Clark in 1947. The Song was written by Jack Lawrence for a 6-year old Linda Eastman, who later became [you guessed it] Paul McCartney's first wife." graemlins/bigeyes1.gif *wha?! Maybe that last bit deserves its own post.

[beatlebangs1964]

Sarge,

Apparently it was NOT small potatoes to you - it "loomed large in your legend." Congratulations on setting the record straight.

That committee - what would they DO without Beatle experts? images/icons/smile.gif Wouldn't be nearly as fab, now eh? graemlins/smile1.gif