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jtal909
Aug 29, 2000, 05:30 PM
Here is an excerpt from a Garcia biography that describes the Beatles:
But there was something else tugging at Garcia as 1964 turned into 1965. For one thing, like half of America under the age of 25, Jerry had been seduced by the Beatles, especially their film, A Hard Day's Night, which depicted life in a rock and roll band as just about the most fun that could be had on planet earth. the Beatles were deliciously irreverent and in-your-face anarchic; untamable gadabouts on an endless lark, always living in a completely different universe than the pitiable straight forces that were constantly trying to control, or at the very least, restrain them.
"The Beatles were why we turned from a jug band into a rock and roll band," said Bob Weir.

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bearkat77
Aug 29, 2000, 06:19 PM
It goes to show you that just about everyone was influenced by the Beatles, even the Grateful Dead. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

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Jerry
Aug 29, 2000, 07:33 PM
Yeah, even the great Eddie VH was influenced by The Beatles.

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Harbidge
Aug 30, 2000, 09:26 AM
So was I. I was touched by the hand of John 4 years ago, and I still think him for it.

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littlechild
Aug 30, 2000, 12:19 PM
ya know what, that happened to me to harb!!
werent we all touched in some way by john!!

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beatlemethisbeatlemethat
Aug 30, 2000, 03:34 PM
The Beatles did so much for music and so many people think they are overrated only 'cause they have no idea what and who they influenced. John was amazing and always will be.

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jtal909
Aug 30, 2000, 04:22 PM
"...the Beatles lived in a different universe...."
there was the Beatles, and then there was everyone else.

Original Fan
Aug 30, 2000, 11:27 PM
Great quote, jtal! Thanks for sharing.

jtal909
Sep 19, 2000, 05:47 PM
Here is the interesting story:
It was at a trendy New York Club , The Bottom Line, that Garcia got to meet one of his favorite musicians, former Beatle John Lennon.
"He came backstage and Jerry introduced him to us and I couldn't speak, man," says Fierro. "My voice left me. He was one of my biggest heroes and I couldn't talk. I was like a drugstore Indian. Then he came back with us to the hotel in the limo. No guards, no Yoko, just him.And he partied with us for a while."
John Kahn's memory of the evening was less srarry-eyed, however. " My perspective was a little off base because I'd dropped a tv set on my hand that mnorning and I'd gotten a pain pill from the Hell's Angels," he said. "So I wasn't in the best shape. Lennon was sort of in disguise and he was with this really wierd guy I didn't know. I heard from Richard Loren, I think it was, that Lennon asked if there was a guitar there that was louder than Garcia's. He wanted to sit in. Well, that got back to Jerry, and Jerry said, 'No, f him.' Later, Lennon came down to the dressing room and was there for a long time; a couple of hours. He was real drunk and was a little belligerent. He kept referring to Jerry as 'J.C.' which I took to mean Jesus Christ, like making fun of Jerry. That night Lennon ended up with the Hell's Angels and we had a particularly sleazy, motley group of Hell's Angels with us.Years later I got asked to play with him by a guy in his band, Jesse Davis, but it didn't work out. I would have liked to. I liked his music a lot. And basically I thought he was really cool, even though he was not cool when we met him. But I'm sure that sort of thing happens all the time. Youi meet a guy under the wrong circumstances..."

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jtal909
Sep 21, 2000, 03:09 PM
That excerpt was from the biography, Jerry Garcia, An American Life.

Paul_McCartney2002
Sep 23, 2000, 12:39 PM
The Dead and the Beatles were both good at what they did, and that was music. To tell you the truth the Dead, have the same sort of history as the beatles when you think about it. Both had a big fan following, both had members die, both made very good music.

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jtal909
Sep 25, 2000, 06:02 PM
More: "In 1983, Garcia also tried out an unusual new cover tune: 'Revolution,' by John Lennon. Predictably, Garcia opted to sing the slow version of the song (Revolution #1 off the Beatles' "White Album"), but could never quite learn all the words--he'd simply mutter his way through most of the verses until he got to the part of the song that clearly appealed to him, the refrain: 'You know it's gonna be allright.'"

jtal909
Sep 25, 2000, 06:04 PM
"Phil Lesh gamely attempted to sing Paul McCartney's raucous "White Album" novelty "Why don't We Do It In The Road?" with hilarious results.

Eppy
Sep 29, 2000, 02:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Paul_McCartney2002:
The Dead and the Beatles were both good at what they did, and that was music. To tell you the truth the Dead, have the same sort of history as the beatles when you think about it. Both had a big fan following, both had members die, both made very good music.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

...their fans both had names (dead-heads, beatlemaniacs), they both had drug problems, they both set the tone for an entire generation (maybe multiple generations), etc, etc. the main difference between the dead and the beatles was that while the beatles started a new hair trend, the dead started a new clothes trend.


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jtal909
Sep 30, 2000, 09:40 AM
Both bands reinvented music. The Beatles reinvented popular music, and the Dead have gone where no other musicians have gone before.

lennon-mccartney
Sep 30, 2000, 10:25 AM
Deep Space 9?

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Eppy
Sep 30, 2000, 12:51 PM
colin's underwear drawer?

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Harbidge
Sep 30, 2000, 01:24 PM
Eppy,

Nah, I went there yesterday. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

j/k

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jtal909
Sep 30, 2000, 02:06 PM
yes, all of the above

lennon-mccartney
Sep 30, 2000, 04:46 PM
Eppy's ballet group?

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bearkat77
Sep 30, 2000, 11:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jtal909:
Both bands reinvented music. The Beatles reinvented popular music, and the Dead have gone where no other musicians have gone before.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Star Trek?

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jtal909
Oct 01, 2000, 12:47 PM
The Jerry Garcia Band did a slow version of Dear Prudence, and on their last tour, the Dead did Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, and Paul's little half song, That Would Be Something, which they used as a vehicle to go into a jam.

Paul_McCartney2002
Oct 01, 2000, 01:11 PM
Are you all saying that the dead are like the U.S. Beatles, because if so I would say your about right. They both have a lot of things in common. And they both will never be forgoten.

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jtal909
Oct 01, 2000, 06:55 PM
I'm not saying the Dead were the US Beatles at all. The Beatles ruled popular music. The Dead were popular, but their music wasn't exactly mainstream. I love how facinating it is that a band as innovative as the Dead were influenced by the Beatles. It shows how far reaching the Beatles' influence was.