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Clark Kent
Aug 21, 2002, 10:24 AM
Which version of George's hit do you prefer? The original? or The remix? I have to stick with the classic and take the original "My Sweet Lord". Cool remix though.
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biglou114
Aug 21, 2002, 11:28 AM
One thing that isn't a remix it's a complete rerecorded version that George made for the reissue of ATMP.
But I too have to go with the orginal.
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Magill
Aug 21, 2002, 11:34 AM
I downloaded the 2000 version by mistake on my pc. The back up singers are a bit too much on that. I like the original much better, thank you very much!
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SingingOm
Aug 21, 2002, 11:46 AM
George preferred the new version, and I love it too, but i'm going for the original .
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FPSHOT
Aug 21, 2002, 11:55 AM
I prefer the original too.
I still get shivers at the part where the additional drums and percussion/tambourine come in.
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George, November 1980
Kasey1964
Aug 21, 2002, 01:41 PM
I still prefer the original but now when I hear My Sweet Lord 2000, I see the beautiful images that are on the allthingsmustpass websight. I don't mind it anymore. George sounded so weak though. He sounded stronger on Horse to Water. Hard to believe he was so sick at that time.
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Sgt.McCartney
Aug 21, 2002, 05:52 PM
Where can you hear the remix?
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IAN TATERSHALL
Aug 21, 2002, 05:52 PM
This is a no brainer. The original is definitive.
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bearkat77
Aug 21, 2002, 09:13 PM
Definitely the original version for me.
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Hari's Chick
Aug 21, 2002, 09:44 PM
Ooooh...so many votes for "original", I am shocked!! I love the original...but no contest, for me, it is 2000! I love the breathy quality of George's voice...so gentle, it melts my heart. He sounds so devotional, so in tune with love itself! Oh, just too wonderful for words. The best!
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FiendishThingie
Aug 22, 2002, 12:25 AM
I can't choose one over the other. I like them both for totally different reasons.
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FPSHOT
Aug 22, 2002, 12:40 AM
I don't like the cheap-sounding keyboard sound added to it, sorry.
Still, a lot better than what Lennon made of it at the hotel the night Give Peace Of Chance was recorded. That's really terrible.
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""I remember singing it [the Hare Krishna mantra]. just for days, John and I, with ukulele banjos, sailing through the Greek islands--Hare Krishna. Like six hours we sang, because you couldn't stop once you got going. You just couldn't stop. It was like as soon as you stop, it was like the lights went out."
George, November 1980
FPSHOT
Aug 22, 2002, 12:40 AM
I don't like the cheap-sounding keyboard sound added to it, sorry.
Still, a lot better than what Lennon made of it at the hotel the night Give Peace A Chance was recorded. That's really terrible.
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""I remember singing it [the Hare Krishna mantra]. just for days, John and I, with ukulele banjos, sailing through the Greek islands--Hare Krishna. Like six hours we sang, because you couldn't stop once you got going. You just couldn't stop. It was like as soon as you stop, it was like the lights went out."
George, November 1980
mindgames
Aug 22, 2002, 04:49 AM
Original. Though I do think "2000"'s guitar solo is better than the original's.
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L'Angelo Misterioso
Aug 22, 2002, 06:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By FPSHOT:
Still, a lot better than what Lennon made of it at the hotel the night Give Peace A Chance was recorded. That's really terrible.
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Where did you hear that version FP? I'd like to hear it too.
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Hari's Chick
Aug 22, 2002, 09:02 AM
yeah, me too! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif
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Hari's Chick
Aug 22, 2002, 09:16 AM
Oh, has anyone also heard Boy George's version of "My Sweet Lord"? It is very good! He also does a great song called "Bow Down Mister" which I downloaded. It is my very favorite non-George song ever! Very Krishna Conscious!!
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Magill
Aug 22, 2002, 09:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By mindgames:
Original. Though I do think "2000"'s guitar solo is better than the original's.
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I agree the guitar is better and fresher, if it weren't for those annoying back up singers..http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/crosseyed3.gif
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Rocky Rabbit
Aug 22, 2002, 10:02 AM
The guitar on My Sweet Lord 2000 is fantastic and gives it an edge over the original.
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lucyinthesky_84
Aug 22, 2002, 10:15 AM
The original version for me too.
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Sgt.McCartney
Aug 22, 2002, 10:47 AM
I guess I'll take the original
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Aug 22, 2002, 01:11 PM
The original"My sweet lord"http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/angel5.gif
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FPSHOT
Aug 22, 2002, 01:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By L'Angelo Misterioso:
Where did you hear that version FP? I'd like to hear it too.
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It was recorded during an after party of the Give Peace A Chance taping in a hotel.
I found it last year, it is not much, just about 20 seconds, with John having had some 'tea' I guess, but interesting to hear.
WinMX has it.
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""I remember singing it [the Hare Krishna mantra]. just for days, John and I, with ukulele banjos, sailing through the Greek islands--Hare Krishna. Like six hours we sang, because you couldn't stop once you got going. You just couldn't stop. It was like as soon as you stop, it was like the lights went out."
George, November 1980
shyGirl
Aug 22, 2002, 02:00 PM
I like both versions really. It's a beautiful song.
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L'Angelo Misterioso
Aug 23, 2002, 12:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By FPSHOT:
WinMX has it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
OK, thanks. I'll try to find it.
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Rellevart
Aug 23, 2002, 10:36 AM
To tell you the truth, it's never been one of my favorite George songs just because I've heard it waaaaaay too many times. It's like the Default George Harrison Song.
That said, I think I prefer the original, though it's a tough call.
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Im quite surprised to see the original coming out tops here, in a Hari forum..i know all the critics and Media HATED the new version..for me, it was a life changing experience i will never forget..i had waited so long to hear it, and it was also the first REAL new George song in 14 years or something..it is just so special, i agree with Hari's chick, in that it is just so devotional, it is So much more spiritual than the original, if that is possible!!..his voice, and guitar just got so much better with age..he is singing it in a Dylan type style, and the guitar, particularly the opening strains and first riff, are the finest he ever played..the video on the EPK is simmilarlly amazing..I get goosebumps every time i hear him singing those verses..it is my favourite song of all time, and i hope to leave my body to the sound of it, if it is possible.Beforei heard 2000, i never had a favourite song, thats how good this one is, it has no competition whatsoever!!I also like how it opens with the sitar, and the 'live' ending..Keith Badman wrote, that 2000, has something new in it: For the first time, George is making music 100% the way he wants, infact he is even deliberately trying to alienate people (the media etc..) i hear this is the sound of Leg-end, so if you dont like 2000, you may be in for a bit of a shock..i cant wait however!!
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I think it should also have been the A side of the single this year..i think EMI made a big mistake over that one...
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FPSHOT
Aug 23, 2002, 11:03 PM
From an emotional point, yes the 2000 version is historical and may bring a lot of feelings forward, knowing of Dhani playing, George having done new vocals etc. but I think most of us just compared the two versions from a musical point.
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jtal909
Aug 24, 2002, 08:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By mindgames:
Original. Though I do think "2000"'s guitar solo is better than the original's.
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I take the original. I like the original guitar work over the remake by far. the original guitar flows, and to me, the remake is too premeditated.
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Hari's Chick
Aug 24, 2002, 09:31 AM
Funny to read all this, in a way. My husband prefered the original, too~ he doesn't care so much for the background singers in 2000. When he said this, I was baffled!!! So, now reading this is interesting!!
Still, I love the 2000 version more musically as well. I LOVE the background singers on 2000! When you turn the volume waaaaaay up, oh, just GREAT!! And I also prefer the slight chord changes on guitar and how that leads George's voice differently. For me the original is just less "rich"~ and yes, the video is wonderful, too! http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif
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LeonardaBeatle
Aug 27, 2002, 09:50 PM
Original version by far is better. The original is on my list of top two favorite songs! (other favorite is Imagine). The remix sounds creepy and unreal, I actually don't like it very much.
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ABCKO
Aug 28, 2002, 12:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By FPSHOT:
I don't like the cheap-sounding keyboard sound added to it, sorry.
Still, a lot better than what Lennon made of it at the hotel the night Give Peace Of Chance was recorded. That's really terrible.
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He actually sounds pretty drunk on that one !
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ABCKO
Aug 28, 2002, 12:53 AM
I'm torn...
I love the 1970 version and it's amongst his finest songs ever...
But the 2000 version beeing his first "new" song since 1989 really got to me as well. Love his guitar work on that one...
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FPSHOT
Aug 28, 2002, 01:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif">Quote:</font><HR>Originally Posted By ABCKO:
He actually sounds pretty drunk on that one !
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AriesGirl78
Aug 28, 2002, 08:59 PM
Since I haven't heard 2000 yet, I will say the original.
But I am looking foward to hearing it. Is Dhani only playing on the track, or is he singing along with George too?
And for those of you who have heard Horse to the Water, is it awesome? I am hoping to get the Jools Holland cd, Small World, Big Band.
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unapplebonked
Aug 29, 2002, 04:38 PM
I'm also going with the original. There are some cool things on the 2000 version, but I really can't stand those background vocals.
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Sam Brown does an awesome job, and the other voices are largely taken from the original...
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LeonardaBeatle
Aug 31, 2002, 01:54 PM
In the original version, he sounds so fresh, sweet, and real. In the remix, he sounds almost as if he wanted something, but now he's just hoping for something, as if he gave up on the search for God. Also, I like the instrumental sounds better on the original.
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FPSHOT
Dec 12, 2003, 03:00 AM
We've been having some talks about "discussing" George's songs.
Well you can see here how I felt about the 2000 version compared to the original album version.
See how 'discussions' can change opinions.
I have been playing the 2000 version a lot and it really changed my opinion.
I guess maybe I was just too much focussed on the old one.
And... the CFG performance of Sam Brown did its work too. The way she does Horse To The Water is amazing, so again I started playing MSL2000.
Now folks, I must admit, I absolutely love it.
Just takes some time to get to know it better I think, this old man of tradition stayed with 1970 too much I guess. But now, als having seen the ATMP EPK again, where George explains why he changed the things he changed, I started really listening.
All the Badfinger guitars are gone and whilst the first version had about 5 different chord combinations, now there are just two. With the 2000 sound of acoustic guitars, played into microphones, it does make a nice change.
Also, the slide guitar is very much present and that represents George in 2000. To me the best slide player ever. Just listen to what these fantastic guitar players on CFG made of his slide parts. Even as good as they are, they still don't come close.
Then the vocals, listen to George, he was almoste ready to just join the Edwin Hawkins Singers, he must have been like Gospel singing at certain parts, him on his own behind the mike, but maybe with Sam and others being there doing the same gospel clapping and singing to get the atmosphere going.
George does that gospel-ish, but also has his 'silent' moments, like he is talking direct to the Lord in person.
Sam Brown's backing vocals, yeah it toom me 3 years to get used to that and still.... I think I would prefer George O'Hara Smith... but.. at the end where she is really going out of the roof with those additional vocals, yeah how can one sit still on a chair if you hear that huh.
The message is still clear. George wanted to get the world get used to Hare Krishna singing, so he started with our famous Halleluya, and just thought the song changed it to Hare Krishna.
Also, this coming from "Oh Happy Day", he had the second part of that song - the 'quiet' part - be the first on MSL and then the 2nd, be the 1st. So he turned it round (George's words in a 33 1/3 interview).
Actually the first to record the song, were the Edwin Hawkins Singers with Billy Preston and they loved it.
Basically what I mean to say here... not being very fond of a song, like I was with MSL 2000 back then at the release of it, does happen to us all. The nice thing is when by people keep on talking to you (or me in this case) about it, with positive arguments, it may change one's mind, like it did to me.
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beatlebangs1964
Dec 12, 2003, 11:07 AM
Leonarda and Rob said it so well.
I admit that I initially preferred the original, but after giving the 2000 version a fair chance, I have to admit it's grown on me. I love it!
Still, if I had to choose one in preference I would still pick the original.
edubeltran
Dec 12, 2003, 04:16 PM
that's an easy one for me; the original
lennonluvr9
Dec 12, 2003, 04:19 PM
I like both versions, but I like the original better images/icons/smile.gif
Whistlerca
Dec 12, 2003, 09:21 PM
I will say the original. Its best not to fool around once or twice with a great song, John one time in the early 70's said he toyed with the idea of HELP!, being a little more slower or faster, Wow! It was great as is, glad he never did a second version.
I just can not believe the courts called "My Sweet Lord" plagiarism, its just was not true.
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Hari's Chick
Dec 12, 2003, 09:46 PM
I still like 2000 much, much better...the original has more polish on it, whereas the 2000 version is more pure George, IMO...
I love Sam Brown, amazing! Also, there is an 'Om'in the 2000 version which is just like my life's breath when I hear it...George singing Om...as well on Give Me Love...just...everything wonderful.
beatlebangs1964
Dec 13, 2003, 06:23 AM
That's a good point, Hari's Chick, and as I listen to it now it makes me feel as if George is really not so far away...hope that makes sense.
Each time I listen to it, I think it sounds like George is putting all of himself into it...that's what makes it so much more special and effective. You get a sense of "progression" for a 30-year time period...it's like a musical "glimpse" of George. I'm glad you mentioned the 'Om part - I recently used this song (as well as some other George classics) at church last month and I said that several songs, this one included was "a prayer set to music." I played "Dear One" because it captured what I was driving at during that talk last month.
On the subject of pure George, which I think is a really good one in and of itself and how it so naturally segues into a myriad of discussions, "Dear One" is certainly in that category. By "pure George" on "Dear One," you feel his heart, soul, mind and intensity when you listen to it or think about the words. The same applies to the 2000 version of "My Sweet Lord."
Again, I think that is a large part of George's appeal, musical and otherwise. He put his beliefs and his music first and used his music to express and share those beliefs. That is the recurring thought I have each time I hear that 'Om.
I love it!
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Legs
Dec 13, 2003, 07:34 AM
As if the original one wasn't pure George, call me confused.
sourmilkpinky
Dec 13, 2003, 09:47 AM
Legs, you are confused!
Legs
Dec 13, 2003, 10:02 AM
Originally Posted By sourmilkpinky:
Legs, you are confused!<font size="2" face="Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif">Thanks!
It might be that the original My Sweet Lord was done and produced in the style George liked then, with Phil Spector, the 2000 version is more up to date with how George would have wanted it to sound nowadays, without the big production.
I said the more slide the better in another discusion about the two lords, I thougth it was this one but it seems that I haven't posted here before.To me they both have something that I really like which is lacking on the other version, which makes it dificult to choise for me. If I was looking at which version I play the most it will be the 2000 version. I sometimes just listen to the 2000 version alone, while I only listen to the original one when I play the whole "All Things Must Pass" cd.
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sourmilkpinky
Dec 13, 2003, 10:19 AM
Yes, I like them both.
FPSHOT
Dec 15, 2003, 01:30 AM
I think both are George, but people do change in 30 years (if they are lucky), so I think George's idea with the George O'Hara Smith singers was exactly where he got the idea from -> Edwin Hawkins Singers-ish, so....gospel choir.
Hey Western world, please listen to what I've got to say, here is Halleluya, but listen, there's something else too, and it's not just orange dressed lazy hippies singing Hare Krishna and selling books.
(for those who missed that, it was like that, many cities world wide were crowded in the late sixties with people from the Krishna movement who wanted to tell their story and who were so often described and thought of as such - rejected - not taken serious)
Then MSL 2000; make it more George as he had become in the year 2000, so more slides, less Badfinger, more personal, less vocals but George himself even more than ever having a conversation in a song : "I Really Wanna See You" and mmmmm-ing at the end along with his own slide guitar, spiritually connected.
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Blackguard
Dec 15, 2003, 02:44 PM
I prefer the original as well
Cecilia
Dec 15, 2003, 05:34 PM
The original is the best for me. That's all I can say.
Fran
Dec 17, 2003, 01:37 PM
The original for me too although I do like the 2000 version.
Clark Kent
Dec 19, 2003, 04:27 PM
I see someone chose to dig up my topic from August 2002. Good for you!
beatlebangs1964
Dec 20, 2003, 08:08 AM
Rob makes some excellent points about George doing the song again 30 years later. In listening to both versions, I get the sense of an "evolving" George, a George who explores his musical and philosophical feelings and how he chooses to express same.
It is a very interesting progression or series of changes as one mentally superimposes 2000 George onto 1970 George, creating a mental composite of the man who shared so much. Although I prefer the original, I love both versions of the song and feel that George is stretching himself musically and artistically. I also think George was encouraging others to keep open minds and be receptive to change as I think he himself always was. In other words, I think George was in effect saying that as wonderful as the original version is, keep a receptive mind to the 2000 version and note those changes and be prepared to accept them for starters, accept and enjoy them even better still.
I think George was one who was able to see beyond the borders and boundaries; he was one who courageously took chances, whether artistic or in other spheres of his life if he felt it was in his interest to do so.
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